For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration

[BWK]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

 

[Auld Phart]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

you don't consider the French Revolution relevant to your claim?

They didn't overthrow their elite, and start there own country?

Do you know ANYTHING about history?

 

[BWK]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

you don't consider the French Revolution relevant to your claim?

They didn't overthrow their elite, and start there own country?

Do you know ANYTHING about history?

Do you know enough about weapons and who had them? LOl! Why do you continue with these over the top stupid arguments? You were just explained everything. Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

Answer to your question, hell no. The French had weapons back in 1765. Would they challenge today's US military with theirs? Lol! Get it?

 

[Auld Phart]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

you don't consider the French Revolution relevant to your claim?

They didn't overthrow their elite, and start there own country?

Do you know ANYTHING about history?

Do you know enough about weapons and who had them? LOl! Why do you continue with these over the top stupid arguments? You were just explained everything. Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

No, we don't have that in common.

Weapons?

The French only had numbers, pitchforks and staves in the 1700s, and overthrew the king.

They had much the same in the 1940s, along with stolen weapons and homemade bombs, and did major damage to the Nazis.

What the French, and our Forefathers had that the 'refugees' dont' have, is determination.

They seem to prefer to run.

 

[BWK]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

you don't consider the French Revolution relevant to your claim?

They didn't overthrow their elite, and start there own country?

Do you know ANYTHING about history?

Do you know enough about weapons and who had them? LOl! Why do you continue with these over the top stupid arguments? You were just explained everything. Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

No, we don't have that in common.

Weapons?

The French only had numbers, pitchforks and staves in the 1700s, and overthrew the king.

They had much the same in the 1940s, along with stolen weapons and homemade bombs, and did major damage to the Nazis.

What the French, and our Forefathers had that the 'refugees' dont' have, is determination.

They seem to prefer to run.

And they didn't have to compete with automatic weapons and heavy artillery either in the 1700'
s. Your argument is beyond comical because now you move the goal post to the 1940's.

 

[Auld Phart]

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.

LOl! At least I have an argument, while laughing at your attempt to have one. That last one about the French was good one, I admit. Never thought I'd hear one that far out there.

you don't consider the French Revolution relevant to your claim?

They didn't overthrow their elite, and start there own country?

Do you know ANYTHING about history?

Do you know enough about weapons and who had them? LOl! Why do you continue with these over the top stupid arguments? You were just explained everything. Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

Are you just a glutton for verbal abuse?

No, we don't have that in common.

Weapons?

The French only had numbers, pitchforks and staves in the 1700s, and overthrew the king.

They had much the same in the 1940s, along with stolen weapons and homemade bombs, and did major damage to the Nazis.

What the French, and our Forefathers had that the 'refugees' dont' have, is determination.

They seem to prefer to run.

And they didn't have to compete with automatic weapons and heavy artillery either. Your argument is beyond comical.

less so than your defense.

Homemade bombs, poison the food supplies, sneak attacks, many ways to chip away at the troops of the elite.

You've become more than tiresome.

I know you'll call it a win for yourself, but I really can't stand any more of your silliness.

 

[pismoe]

Yep , BWK is a boneheaded knucklehead and a 'government employee' if he really is a 'woods cop' [chuckle] . .

 

[Dan Stubbs]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

I have given you a agree but you are wrong, we did not start the war in Nam, the France started it at the end of WWII, they wanted their land back, it use to be Indo China, the North did not like the idea. The fight started until the they left the Nation and President Kennedy stepped in. Look it up.

 

[Auld Phart]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

I have given you a agree but you are wrong, we did not start the war in Nam, the France started it at the end of WWII, they wanted their land back, it use to be Indo China, the North did not like the idea. The fight started until the they left the Nation and President Kennedy stepped in. Look it up.

Didn't say we started the war in Nam.

Said more than 10 died in Nam before we got involved in a war footing.

Vietnam War Casualties (1955-1975)

"1956-1960 9
1961 16"

(Supposedly observers)

 

[EvilCat Breath]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

Something that was done in 1954 to a country that os quite peaceful today has nothing to do with our current invasion of the flotsam of the world.

Open the border to hunting. That will go a long way to stopping the nonsense. Any of the cartels would have put decapitated heads on poles by now.

 

[Unkotare]

... ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started......

"Nothing more than victims"?

That is some of the most arrogant, condescending nonsense I've seen here in a while.

The race to the ridiculous left continues. Sort of like the primaries.

 

[Olde Europe]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

Thanks for bringing this up. The right thing to do is, of course, standing up to the current nativist tsunami unleashed by the right-wing extremists who currently control the GOP.

However... and not that I'd tell you what (not) to do: You will never get anywhere near a fruitful debate about immigration and the immigrant scare, much less find out more of the truth about it, if you brawl with trolls and thus help them hijack your thread. Just saying...

 

[BWK]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

Thanks for bringing this up. The right thing to do is, of course, standing up to the current nativist tsunami unleashed by the right-wing extremists who currently control the GOP.

However... and not that I'd tell you what (not) to do: You will never get anywhere near a fruitful debate about immigration and the immigrant scare, much less find out more of the truth about it, if you brawl with trolls and thus help them hijack your thread. Just saying...

Couldn't agree more. But arguing with trolls, is what it is. There never will be a fruitful debate with these people who aren't interested in that to begin with. They never came here for that. You need to understand "WHO" these people are, in order to understand what we are dealing with. We are literally dealing with a cult like manifestation headed up by criminals. And with more information than I need already to cement the case, more information is not necessary. That's like saying I'm going to gather more information to impeach Trump. We have multiple cases that more than qualify Trump for impeachment.

The truth is documented as historical fact not subject to debate. That truth is evident by the hundreds of posts on forums I have put out there with no counter evidence to those facts. They simply cannot produce anything that argues the information down. I've posted this one for years and never once had an intelligent, fact finding rebuttal; CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

I posted this one lately, and Trump voters have been moot; Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
They can't argue what can't be argued down. It's why they never respond.

You have to keep stoking the fire of information and the truth. Their case against illegal immigration is a problem in search of a solution they started. This is what the American people have to get drilled in their heads. The US created the problem, not the illegals. Our history has already taught us that. They are boxed in with their own illegal immigration arguments they try and pedal, because the US is more illegal than the illegal immigrants are. And that is why they simply have no arguable skin in this game. It has always been on us. But their only go to strategy is to blame the victims in all this. And the kids in cages suffer the most for a problem we are 100% responsible for.

No, I'm going to continue to fight for what is right. The moral high ground is on my side and I know it. And so do they. I'm not a coward like these Trump Toads who always try to blame a problem on a symptom rather than the source. I will always fight right over wrong, truth over lies, and justice for those who are victims.

Trump's Gestapo can continue doing what they do best, and I will continue calling their evil out every chance I get.

 

[BWK]

... ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started......

"Nothing more than victims"?

That is some of the most arrogant, condescending nonsense I've seen here in a while.

The race to the ridiculous left continues. Sort of like the primaries.

When the US is 100% to blame for illegal immigration in this country, (facts no one has yet argued down with any documented evidence by the way), then cowardly turn the strategy into scapegoating these immigrant populations, nothing you described lines up with reality. Truth and facts are neither arrogant nor condescending. They are reality. Something Trump voters cannot deal with.

 

[Dick Foster]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

My suggestion to you is for you to do "the right thing" and get your dead ass outta here and stay out. Obviously if you're so concerned you can do much more to help them there so they won't need to come here at all.

 

[BWK]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

Something that was done in 1954 to a country that os quite peaceful today has nothing to do with our current invasion of the flotsam of the world.

Open the border to hunting. That will go a long way to stopping the nonsense. Any of the cartels would have put decapitated heads on poles by now.

Trump truly has created monsters within his base. Very, very, bad human beings.

 

[Hellbilly]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

My suggestion to you is for you to do "the right thing" and get your dead ass outta here and stay out. Obviously if you're so concerned you can do much more to help them there so they won't need to come here at all.

Maybe you can get the mods to ban all us liberals.
Im sure you conservatives would be happier here sucking each others dicks.


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[BWK]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

My suggestion to you is for you to do "the right thing" and get your dead ass outta here and stay out. Obviously if you're so concerned you can do much more to help them there so they won't need to come here at all.

You crow because you cannot caw about an evil thing you have no real excuse for. This illegal immigration snake pit you and Trump put yourself in has no real moral solution. Trump and his deplorables set the strategy for the solution during the campaign to get rid of them, but now find themselves as being the real problem, instead of these refugees.

Trump and his deplorable base are the real problem now, because the US was always the real problem. But Trump and his idiot base decided to run a campaign on getting rid of illegals, but instead find out, that the US is all to blame for the problem to begin with. LOL! And what have they been doing? We'll, they've been fucking up is what they have been doing. Kids in cages, and homeland security heads are quitting because they don't know what to do, and the suffering continues, because Trump ran on a bs immigration slogan he got caught up in. And what is so friggin insane about all this, is the fact that Trump doesn't give two shits about illegal immigration. How do we know that? Because that crooked bastard hires illegals himself, that's why. How a Trump voter isn't sitting there thinking about how damn stupid he or she is is beyond me.

 

[BWK]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

My suggestion to you is for you to do "the right thing" and get your dead ass outta here and stay out. Obviously if you're so concerned you can do much more to help them there so they won't need to come here at all.

Maybe you can get the mods to ban all us liberals.
Im sure you conservatives would be happier here sucking each others dicks.


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They can't take the pressure of the truth. It is so kicking their asses. You can go back from start to finish on this thread, and not one Trump goon presents a coherent intelligent counter argument to the truth that is staring them square in the faces. They know the US is the real problem, and there isn't shit they can say to change that fact.

 

[Rambunctious]

Candace Owens @RealCandaceO