For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration

[BWK]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The March of Time is not without tragedy to some. One must consider the advance of civilization that accompanies it.

 

[Auld Phart]

another day,

same thread

 

[BWK]

The March of Time is not without tragedy to some. One must consider the advance of civilization that accompanies it.

In other words, blame the victims for a problem the invaders started. The problem with your argument is, who are you to judge what an advanced civilization is? Your so called "advanced civilization" can't even find a way to provide HC for all its citizens while other "shit hole" countries provide HC for all. That said, I do so love your excuses while we hold children in cages and blame the illegals for the sake of your declared pursuits in "advanced civilization". If I had ever heard a more sick, demonic, explanation to bring suffering to millions, while scapegoating those populations, your post tells it all.

 

[BWK]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

 

[Auld Phart]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

 

[BWK]

Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com
If a man or woman wants to really understand the illegal immigration problem in its total context, will need to read this publication. If not, then you can continue on in your safe place of ignorance, intolerance, and hate towards those who are nothing more than victims in this very dangerous game they never started, but are blamed for on a daily basis by so many US citizens. The tragedy of the American Indian, Black slaves, and this outrageous travesty we placed on Latin America, while blaming them for coming here, are the three scars that this country will forever be marked for. But, we can stop this latest one by simply doing the right thing.

Funny faces are for losers by the way.

 

[BWK]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

You aren't presenting any counter arguments to the facts presented. Just stupid questions. You lose. People like you don't say anything that is useful. Just excuses.

 

[Auld Phart]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

You aren't presenting any counter arguments to the facts presented. Just stupid questions. You lose. People like you don't say anything that is useful. Just excuses.

Learn to read

 

[BWK]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

 

[Auld Phart]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

 

[BWK]

another day,

same thread

The sickness and the evil that is the Trump administration with its cult followers. Aren't you Toads ashamed and embarrassed that you all can't even come up with an argument? Does that ever register into the vegetable minds of these Trump Toads? Apparently not. You folks are pretty fucked up.

Trump Toad?




Didn't vote for Trump in 2016, won't vote for him in 2020.

But, isnt' this the same thread you had yesterday?

and the day before?

Invaders?

How many troops did we send to those countries to force people north, to invade our borders, at gunpoint?

If they are looking for refuge, why didn't they take it when Mexico offered it?


Your 'argument' doesn't hold water.

Just bile.

"How many"? Enough! CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Guatemala 1954: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz. The U.S. justified its involvement by claiming that Soviets had an uncomfortable amount of influence over Guatemala, even though the two countries didn’t even maintain diplomatic relations. The real reason for U.S. involvement came from pressure from the United Fruit Company, whose land was expropriated by Arbenz’s progressive land reforms. The CIA action took a form that became the mold for CIA intervention in Latin America: The bribery of military officers and a propaganda campaign against the leftist government that included the resurrection of oppositional radio stations, the mass distribution of anti-government leaflets, and the anonymous submission of articles to newspapers painting the Arbenz government as communist. The U.S. also used international political clout to pressure the UN to ignore Arbenz’s request for an investigation of the incident. The coup was followed by a 40-year period of instability and brutality in Guatemala.

Ecuador 1960-63: The CIA infiltrated the Ecuadorian government, set up news agencies and radio stations, bombed right-wing agencies and churches and blamed the left, all to force democratically elected Velasco Ibarra from office. When his replacement, Carlos Arosemara, refused to break relations with Cuba, the CIA-funded military took over the country, outlawed communism, and cancelled the 1964 elections.

ominican Republic 1963-65: In 1963, Juan Bosch took office as the first democratically elected president of the Dominican Republic since 1924. He was a true liberal and called for land reform, low-rent housing, modest nationalization of business, and restrictions on foreign investment. Seven months after being elected, the U.S. allowed a right wing military coup to take over the government. Nineteen months later, a popular revolution broke out which attempted to reinstate Bosch. The U.S. reacted by sending in troops to stop the Bosch revolutionaries. Meanwhile, the CIA and U.S. Information Agency (USIA) conducted an intensive propaganda campaign against Bosch. U.S. troops stayed in the Dominican Republic until September 1966, when, thanks in part to the anti-Bosch media campaign, Juan Bosch lost the election to Joaquin Balaguer.

Nicaragua 1978-1990: When the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dictatorship in 1979, the U.S. was frightened by what they thought could be another Cuba. President Jimmy Carter tried to sabotage the revolution through economic and diplomatic forms, and later Reagan used violence. For eight years, Nicaragua faced military attacks by the U.S. funded Contras (Reagan’s “freedom fighters). In 1990, the U.S. interfered in national elections, and the Sandinistas were defeated. According to Oxfam, the international development organization, Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was “exceptional in the strength of that government’s commitment…to improving the condition of the people and encouraging [an] active development process.” Now, Nicaragua is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, with widespread illiteracy and malnutrition.

Grenada 1979-1983: A 1979 coup took control of this small island country and attempted to install socialist reforms. The Reagan administration used destabilization tactics and eventually invaded in 1983, resulting in U.S. as well as Grenadian and Cuban casualties.

El Salvador 1980-92: After the U.S. helped fix an election to repress dissidents in El Salvador, the rebels turned to violence and a civil war ensued. Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions. The U.S. spent six billion dollars repressing this popular revolution.

Are you getting the picture now? We invaded them, not them invading us.

and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint.

Right?

They never heard of the French Revolution, or the American Revolution...?


like good little sheep, they packed up and headed north, bypassing Mexico, (which offered them Sanctuary), to come to the USA.

(someone said a while back that negated their 'right' to refugee status here. Don't remember who)

Although the U.S. claimed to be only involved on an advisory basis 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat missions.

More than that died in Nam before we actually started 'war' there.

Your crap is weak, but your bile is strong.

You know people, I realize I have to wade through the weeds of stupid with some of these Trump voters, but sometimes, I feel like "stupid" needs a more lengthy definition.

Just read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint". Can you believe someone actually tried to use that as their counter argument when the US took over their country, their government, the politics, and their jobs turning them into refugees of their own country? My head exploded when I read it, because I knew the word and its definition needed revision.

Someone needs to rescue these Trump cultists from their own warped minds. If they are capable of reading, and they care to be informed, they need to get an historical perspective; Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com Not that they care, or are going to, but there is always hope that stupidity and ignorance won't consume all of them.

 

[Auld Phart]

ust read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint".

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun

• 1. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt: "his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

The point being, no one FORCED them to come here
Why do you bother posting?

 

[BWK]

ust read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint".

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun

• 1. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt: "his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

The point being, no one FORCED them to come here
Why do you bother posting?

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it. When another country (the US), goes and takes over another countries government, politics, and economy, forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people? At this point, they don't need to be at gunpoint to leave. They become refugees in their own country because of what the US did. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Get a fucking clue.

 

[Auld Phart]

ust read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint".

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun

• 1. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt: "his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

The point being, no one FORCED them to come here
Why do you bother posting?

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it. When another country (the US), goes and takes over another countries government, politics, and economy, forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people? At this point, they don't need to be at gunpoint to leave. They become refugees in their own country because of what the US did. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Get a fucking clue.

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it.

No, you don't.

forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people?

no, just like the French in on July 14, 1789, and Americans in 1765, they could have started a REVOLUTION.

Instead, they ran.

Where would we be, if our Forefathers had run?

Seeking refugee status in Mexico or Canada?

 

[BWK]

ust read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint".

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun

• 1. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt: "his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

The point being, no one FORCED them to come here
Why do you bother posting?

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it. When another country (the US), goes and takes over another countries government, politics, and economy, forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people? At this point, they don't need to be at gunpoint to leave. They become refugees in their own country because of what the US did. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Get a fucking clue.

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it.

No, you don't.

forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people?

no, just like the French in on July 14, 1789, and Americans in 1765, they could have started a REVOLUTION.

Instead, they ran.

Where would we be, if our Forefathers had run?

Seeking refugee status in Mexico or Canada?

How anyone on this forum can show up here and make some of the most ridiculous statements pretending they are counter arguments is beyond me. WTF are you talking about? How can you possibly make a comparison with people back in 1765 versus people in Latin America with the US government and its military? Have you lost your mind? Do you not understand the comparison you are making here? These people, women and children as well, who live simple lives for the most part, are being subjected to gangs with automatic weapons if they do not do what they say. And you think these same people should stand up to the US military? WTF? What planet do you live on boss? It blows my mind how dumb founded Trump voters really are about this. Have any of you read my link? For Gods sake people, teach yourselves something instead of being total idiots. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Everything in this article points to the truth and reality of what is going on today, and our history. It isn't that hard people. Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com

 

[BWK]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

 

[Auld Phart]

ust read this one folks; " and then those troops forced all those people to come to the USA at gunpoint".

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun

• 1. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt: "his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"

The point being, no one FORCED them to come here
Why do you bother posting?

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it. When another country (the US), goes and takes over another countries government, politics, and economy, forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people? At this point, they don't need to be at gunpoint to leave. They become refugees in their own country because of what the US did. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Get a fucking clue.

OMG! He still willfully doesn't get it.

No, you don't.

forcing its people into extreme poverty giving them zero opportunity to make a living, while the only other option is joining a gang to survive, what idiot on what planet couldn't, wouldn't see the obvious next moves by these people?

no, just like the French in on July 14, 1789, and Americans in 1765, they could have started a REVOLUTION.

Instead, they ran.

Where would we be, if our Forefathers had run?

Seeking refugee status in Mexico or Canada?

How anyone on this forum can show up here and make some of the most ridiculous statements pretending they are counter arguments is beyond me. WTF are you talking about? How can you possibly make a comparison with people back in 1765 versus people in Latin America with the US government and its military? Have you lost your mind? Do you not understand the comparison you are making here? These people, women and children as well, who live simple lives for the most part, are being subjected to gangs with automatic weapons if they do not do what they say. And you think these same people should stand up to the US military? WTF? What planet do you live on boss? It blows my mind how dumb founded Trump voters really are about this. Have any of you read my link? For Gods sake people, teach yourselves something instead of being total idiots. For all those who aren't afraid to seek the truth about illegal immigration Everything in this article points to the truth and reality of what is going on today, and our history. It isn't that hard people. Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com

Whine all you like.

French underground fought the Nazis

as did many Europeans countries during that period, with less arms than those in the countries the 'refugees' are from.

Hoes, pitchforks, staves, stolen firearms, etc.

nothing stopping them from making a stand.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

How anyone on this forum can show up here and make some of the most ridiculous statements pretending they are counter arguments is beyond me.

Yeah. We've all been wondering about that concerning you.

 

[Auld Phart]

I'll take the funny face as a surrender to the argument. Thanks!

take it any way you like.

I'm laughing in your face at your weak arguments.

Probably the same way your classmates laughed at you growing up.