LoneLaugher
Diamond Member
Numbers. Answer my question with factual numbers. Fuck!
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Really? Millions accepting freebies that they don't need. Millions?
At one time I would have thought that was a joke, but now know better. I'm waiting for some raging liberal to tell me I'm heartless and against feeding children because I am disgusted at the way too many people are taking tax payers for a ride. It's a big problem when millions are accepting freebies from government when they obviously don't need them. When giverment is willing to pass out cards for entertainment, of course people will take them. We've all heard the excuse from people who really don't need help- "If I don't take it, someone else will."
And why has government knowingly allowed this sort of fraud to get worse? I think I know the answer. It's all about votes.
The problem is that 40% of those on food stamps already have jobs. Not because they are "ripping off the system" but because the jobs they hold don't pay enough to put food on the table.
And this is where you free market types have really messed it up. When you decide to increase your profit by firing one guy and make another guy work twice as hard for less money, you create EXACTLY the kind of government dependency you whine about.
You gotta see how these folks go off on the counter guy if
they think he shorted them on one of their "Strimps"
At one time I would have thought that was a joke, but now know better. I'm waiting for some raging liberal to tell me I'm heartless and against feeding children because I am disgusted at the way too many people are taking tax payers for a ride. It's a big problem when millions are accepting freebies from government when they obviously don't need them. When giverment is willing to pass out cards for entertainment, of course people will take them. We've all heard the excuse from people who really don't need help- "If I don't take it, someone else will."
And why has government knowingly allowed this sort of fraud to get worse? I think I know the answer. It's all about votes.
The problem is that 40% of those on food stamps already have jobs. Not because they are "ripping off the system" but because the jobs they hold don't pay enough to put food on the table.
And this is where you free market types have really messed it up. When you decide to increase your profit by firing one guy and make another guy work twice as hard for less money, you create EXACTLY the kind of government dependency you whine about.
I had a service call one day at a retail fish store in a bad neighborhood.
I asked the guy why it was so quiet for a Friday.
He said it was the end of the Month.
He told me the beginning of the Month they all come in with their EBT food card
and load up on lobster tails and King Crab legs.
He said it was pretty funny.
When I was in school? We had 'reduced cost' programs or you just brought it from home...period.
If kids bring it from home now, they are apt to have their lunch taken away. Schools want to feed them and don't like parents trying to do it. They'll take away the healthy turkey sandwich and give them gross chicken nuggets.
They need to require IDs for using the EBT cards or at least put their pictures on the cards. That would help stop people from selling them. I can't believe people are using these cards at strip clubs, bars, tattoo parlors and nail salons, etc. If they can do all those things, they don't need our help. This is just giving people more than they need so they have the means to waste our money on this crap.
You are referring to an already debunked story. Nobody's lunch was thrown away. You're perpetrating a myth.
The Chicken Nuggets Story, Bite By Bite
oh bullshit. Provide examples of where this is happening.
At one time I would have thought that was a joke, but now know better. I'm waiting for some raging liberal to tell me I'm heartless and against feeding children because I am disgusted at the way too many people are taking tax payers for a ride. It's a big problem when millions are accepting freebies from government when they obviously don't need them. When giverment is willing to pass out cards for entertainment, of course people will take them. We've all heard the excuse from people who really don't need help- "If I don't take it, someone else will."
And why has government knowingly allowed this sort of fraud to get worse? I think I know the answer. It's all about votes.
The problem is that 40% of those on food stamps already have jobs. Not because they are "ripping off the system" but because the jobs they hold don't pay enough to put food on the table.
And this is where you free market types have really messed it up. When you decide to increase your profit by firing one guy and make another guy work twice as hard for less money, you create EXACTLY the kind of government dependency you whine about.
Food stamp fraud is nothing new. When I was in the service back in the 1990's, there was a Sergeant in my unit who routinely had big wads of food stamps on him. He would trade cash for the stamps at a half-face value rate. The people who he bought the stamps off of would go on to buy drugs with the money.
Not surprisingly, this guy came up hot on a piss test and got thrown out.
Yup. I know people who did the same thing. They bought stamps for half their value and then used the stamps themselves. The folks they bought em from needed cash for whatever.
Guess the taxdollar to buy food isn't good enough. They need money for nails, hair, drugs and you name it.
Loads of freeloaders out there.
Last I heard there are hundreds of thousand Govt employees all funded by we the taxpayer.
Seems to me some of them could be looking for the fraud and waste.
Hundreds of thousands are being laid off. That does't lend itself to more enforcement, but less. I used to work for a welfare fraud unit.
Hey room temperature IQ....If there is a problem with fraud then obviously there are many people receiving benefits that should not be receiving them.I want the number of able bodied adults who choose not to work in favor of living off of government assistance and what the total taxpayer outlay is for that number of people.
I don't want "many" or "scores" or " hoards" or " millions" or " untold"...........I want THE ACTUAL FUCKING NUMBERS.
Anyone?
Whooooosh.How many?
How many able-bodied adult Americans are choosing not to work and instead live off of government programs?
How many.............and how much is the total bill for this number?
C'mon nutters. Answer this question. I've been asking you for several months now.
The point is not that they chose not to work, the point is that the government is, as usual, incompetent with taxpayer money.
Seriously, Mass only just prohibited food stamp funds being spent on alcohol, tobacco, lottery tickets, nail salons, and tattoo parlors? Really? 2011? That's just amazing.
Can't answer. Not shocked.
Last I heard there are hundreds of thousand Govt employees all funded by we the taxpayer.
Seems to me some of them could be looking for the fraud and waste.
Hundreds of thousands are being laid off. That does't lend itself to more enforcement, but less. I used to work for a welfare fraud unit.
Really? Show links. Obama has increased federal employment.
Tell ya what, if all those people were being let go, I'd be happy. Fewer non essential government employees. I won't call them workers because most government workers don't do shit anyway. Except to tell others "it's not my job"...
After two weeks of peanut butter sandwiches, you would too. BS anyway.
I love the way Pubs cut investigators and then bitch about the fraud that follows...
And thanks for the depression,mega rich ahole Pubs. Pub dupes.