flawed thinking?

[Foxfyre]

The point is that it is an undisputed fact that most NYC highschool graduates entering community college need remedial courses in the basics. It doesn't matter whether it is 60% or 70% or 80%, the fact that there are so many is a tragedy. It should be such an extreme rarity that any HS grad entering college anywhere needs any kind of remedial work in basic reading, writing, and basic math.

And certainly correcting that deplorable situation should be of much higher priority than regulating the size of soft drinks people can buy at the 7/11 or worrying about whether the homeless might get a little too much salt in their soup.

Surely we can all agree on that.

 

[Avatar4321]

The point is that it is an undisputed fact that most NYC highschool graduates entering community college need remedial courses in the basics. It doesn't matter whether it is 60% or 70% or 80%, the fact that there are so many is a tragedy. It should be such an extreme rarity that any HS grad entering college anywhere needs any kind of remedial work in basic reading, writing, and basic math.

And certainly correcting that deplorable situation should be of much higher priority than regulating the size of soft drinks people can buy at the 7/11 or worrying about whether the homeless might get a little too much salt in their soup.

Surely we can all agree on that.

Unfortunately, fixing that problem would require us to fix the family. and it's going to take a lot of time to do that.

 

[auditor0007]

His heart is in the right place. His brain isn't.

Have to agree with you on this one.

 

[auditor0007]

The point is that it is an undisputed fact that most NYC highschool graduates entering community college need remedial courses in the basics. It doesn't matter whether it is 60% or 70% or 80%, the fact that there are so many is a tragedy. It should be such an extreme rarity that any HS grad entering college anywhere needs any kind of remedial work in basic reading, writing, and basic math.

And certainly correcting that deplorable situation should be of much higher priority than regulating the size of soft drinks people can buy at the 7/11 or worrying about whether the homeless might get a little too much salt in their soup.

Surely we can all agree on that.

If you live or have ever lived in a big city, you know that kids from families with money send their kids to private school. Either that, or you move to the burbs where the public schools are decent schools. What happens is that the vast majority of kids attending these public schools come from family situations that are below average at best. There is little parental guidance and the schools end up becoming more of a babysitting service than anything, hence the poor results for those public schools.

 

[Avatar4321]

If you live or have ever lived in a big city, you know that kids from families with money send their kids to private school. Either that, or you move to the burbs where the public schools are decent schools. What happens is that the vast majority of kids attending these public schools come from family situations that are below average at best. There is little parental guidance and the schools end up becoming more of a babysitting service than anything, hence the poor results for those public schools.

And instead of fixing the problems, let's ban soda.

 

[HomeInspect]

Funny, watching the mindless deal with this simple topic. Talking in circles about community colleges, and who goes where. Feeble attempt at diversion on a simple point. Bloomberg's priorities. He is a post boy for the mindless left.

 

[Foxfyre]

The point is that it is an undisputed fact that most NYC highschool graduates entering community college need remedial courses in the basics. It doesn't matter whether it is 60% or 70% or 80%, the fact that there are so many is a tragedy. It should be such an extreme rarity that any HS grad entering college anywhere needs any kind of remedial work in basic reading, writing, and basic math.

And certainly correcting that deplorable situation should be of much higher priority than regulating the size of soft drinks people can buy at the 7/11 or worrying about whether the homeless might get a little too much salt in their soup.

Surely we can all agree on that.

If you live or have ever lived in a big city, you know that kids from families with money send their kids to private school. Either that, or you move to the burbs where the public schools are decent schools. What happens is that the vast majority of kids attending these public schools come from family situations that are below average at best. There is little parental guidance and the schools end up becoming more of a babysitting service than anything, hence the poor results for those public schools.

I do live in a big city with one of the nation's largest public school districts. And most kids, regardless of family income, do attend those public schools and IF the parents supplement the education their kids get, the kids do get educated. If the parents do not supplement the education, the kids graduate pretty deficient in some basic suff. There are a limited number of good private schools here and all have long waiting lists. More and more parents are opting to homeschool as a better choice for their kids.

You are absolutely correct, however, that deficient parenting is a primary reason for deficient education, and when you have a federal goernment that rewards both, that is something that is not likely to be easily corrected. When you have schools that increasingly indoctrinate rather than educate, it compounds the problem.

To fix it, we as a culture need to require and demand people to be personally responsible and accountable for their choices, start taking kids away from drugged out, abusive, and/or neglectful parents, stop encouraging teen pregnancy and single parenthod, and put the best interests of the kids first in school, in society, in our conscious behavior.

Do that, and the problem will be fixed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The point is that it is an undisputed fact that most NYC highschool graduates entering community college need remedial courses in the basics. It doesn't matter whether it is 60% or 70% or 80%, the fact that there are so many is a tragedy. It should be such an extreme rarity that any HS grad entering college anywhere needs any kind of remedial work in basic reading, writing, and basic math.

And certainly correcting that deplorable situation should be of much higher priority than regulating the size of soft drinks people can buy at the 7/11 or worrying about whether the homeless might get a little too much salt in their soup.

Surely we can all agree on that.

I agree with that.