First Homicide Detective on Scene wanted to Charge Zimmerman with

[amrchaos]

I keep thinking, if we start from the premise that a man is innocent before proving guilty, then it is a hard case for a prosecutor to pursue with the evidence so for mentioned by the media.

For instance, was this a hate crime. There are only two pieces of evidence we have for that. The first is a call to dispatchers in which the term being referenced to is a bit garle. The other is the "racially profiling" charge which has a logical basis in the fact that there has been burglaries by "Black males"

Neither of which adds up to a murder with racial hatred as a motif. The argument for a hate crime is tenuous at best.

How about the charge of a felony murder? Well, the problem now lies with the intent of Zimmerman and the witnesses. Even though Zimmerman may have pursued Trayvon with the dispatchers advising against it, that in itself is not a crime. Repeat, not a crime. The biggest problem is the question of why Zimmerman left his car in the first place. Even so, that does not constitue that Zimmerman sought to kill Trayvon. It is possible that Zimmerman only wanted to talk to Trayvon. This leaves the scuffle that Zimmerman claimed he and Trayvon got into. Unfortunately, If Zimmerman did not wish to confront Trayvon in a fight(which is suspect, but no evidence for or against) and Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, then self defense is possible.

I.e.

 

[ClosedCaption]

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Never said they don't happen but more bullshit charges happen than real charges.

Huh, funny how that works....in Zimmermans case.

What do you think should happen if they don't find enough evidence to take this to trial is the only question I'd like to ask you?

Hopefully you can answer that question straight forward since you always expect it from others.

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

 

[koshergrl]

Really?

How do you know this? Link it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

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Huh, funny how that works....in Zimmermans case.

What do you think should happen if they don't find enough evidence to take this to trial is the only question I'd like to ask you?

Hopefully you can answer that question straight forward since you always expect it from others.

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

Thats just plain old run of the mill everyday dried up bullshit.
What do you think statements are?

 

[ClosedCaption]

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What do you think should happen if they don't find enough evidence to take this to trial is the only question I'd like to ask you?

Hopefully you can answer that question straight forward since you always expect it from others.

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

Thats just plain old run of the mill everyday dried up bullshit.
What do you think statements are?

Ok parsey mcparson. They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

 

[Emma]

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

Thats just plain old run of the mill everyday dried up bullshit.
What do you think statements are?

Ok parsey mcparson. They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

They took his gun as evidence at the scene. That's in the police report I linked above. When they gave it back, if they did, is unclear. I would suspect if LE gave it back, it wasn't until 3/12 when their investigation was complete.

 

[OODA_Loop]

They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

No probable cause to drug test.

He gave them gun at the scene.

 

[ClosedCaption]

They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

No probable cause to drug test.

He gave them gun at the scene.

What was the probable cause to drug test a dead person and not the shooter?

 

[koshergrl]

What sort of "physical evidence" besides the gun should they have collected?

Was there an allegation of rape?

Did Zimmerman deny a physical altercation?

As has been said over and over...go back to watching csi, you fucking loons.

 

[OODA_Loop]

What was the probable cause to drug test a dead person and not the shooter?

Toxicology is a standard protocol of any autopsy.

 

[koshergrl]

They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

No probable cause to drug test.

He gave them gun at the scene.

What was the probable cause to drug test a dead person and not the shooter?

Toxicology is always done during autopsy. You don't need *probable cause* to drug test a corpse, genius.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

Thats just plain old run of the mill everyday dried up bullshit.
What do you think statements are?

Ok parsey mcparson. They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

Yes they took his gun to do ballistics thats basic 101 BLET

 

[Quantum Windbag]

From a comment about the subject from abc news -

If the above is true: having the record expunged after an "assault" on a Police Officer in itself is news worthy - like time has all but caught up with Zimmerman ...

You would think assault on a police officer he would have had done something really bad, like take a swing at a police officer. Well guess what you can be charged with assault on a police officer for just about doing anything. Zimmerman could have had a few words heated exchange with an officer and while walking away brush up against the officer and be charged.

Zimmerman was arrested and convicted for assault ...

both an arrested and conviction ... cops usually do not waste their time for a conviction for a mere brush-up.


Has anyone ever looked at Zimmerman's father's relationship with Chief Lee and the State Attorney? Zimmerman's dad is a judge in Manassas, Va.

Have we heard from daddy yet ???

Arrest and conviction could be arrest and plea bargain, which would explain why the conviction was expunged. It would also indicate that, whatever he did, it wasn't serious.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Wow, first guy on scene wanted to charge him. Instead they let 'em go but made sure to drug test the dead guy.

And now we're just hearing about the lead investigator a month later.

Yeah, seems totally normal

The whole Sanford police department seems RIFE with corruption. Perhaps due to the preponderance of good ole' boys on the force.

Why does it seem that way?

 

[koshergrl]

Because they didn't lynch the white hispanic!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You don't arrest someone unless you have a reason to suspect they've done something. You don't arrest people just because they happen to be involved in a questionable incident..cops followed John Gacy around for MONTHS before they ever arrested him. Because they HAD NO EVIDENCE.

That was funny, thanks for the laugh.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Huh, funny how that works....in Zimmermans case.

What do you think should happen if they don't find enough evidence to take this to trial is the only question I'd like to ask you?

Hopefully you can answer that question straight forward since you always expect it from others.

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

They got Zimmerman's clothes, the body of Martin, the gun used in the shooting, the shell, and the bullet. What did they miss, soil samples?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

They didnt collect evidence...that is the problem.

Thats just plain old run of the mill everyday dried up bullshit.
What do you think statements are?

Ok parsey mcparson. They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

You can't drug test people just because you want to. Why should they drug test him anyway?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

They didn't collect psychical evidence from Zimmerman. More specifically, they did not drug test Zimmerman and didn't collect his gun. Overall the police made mistakes.

No probable cause to drug test.

He gave them gun at the scene.

What was the probable cause to drug test a dead person and not the shooter?

You don't need probable cause to drug test dead people, dead people don't have rights.

 

[Salt Jones]

This case is very disturbing...

They have put a bounty out on that poor man, and not a word from DOJ or Obama...

Spike Lee posts the wrong address for Zimmerman, and not a word from DOJ or Obama...

Al Sharpton stirring up racist hatred, and not a word from DOJ or Obama...

I am shocked at where we are going as a nation.


WHERE ARE YOU OBAMA...????? WHERE ARE YOU ERIC HOLDER?????


YOU FUCKING BASTATRDS!!!!!​

They are giving you crackers a taste of your own medicine. Try living like that for the next 200 years.

"I am shocked at where we are going as a nation."

Newsflash. We've been here for centuries. Hahahaha.