First Beheading By Radical Muslim On Our Soil

[Clementine]

I do stand corrected on it not being the first beheading by Muslims. I was thinking in terms of the ISIS radicals and this guy was just following the leader.

The violence has gone on for years from the radical Muslims and it will never stop until they get their way.

I refuse to bow to political correctness and call the many terrorist attacks 'workplace violence' or domestic abuse because that minimizes the real threat that radicals will always pose to all infidels.

The reasons given are always the same. Radical Muslims want the death of all infidels. Period.

 

[occupied]

There will come a time when it will indeed be brought to US Muslims as a result of these type of actions.

Count on that.

Quit riding the fear wagon, that's the shit that birthed the patriot act, the DHS and an all encompassing domestic spying program. Be courageous and tell all the people who want to scare you to shove it up their ass.

"Shove it up your ass" works until the pressure cookers detonate.

OOOOHHHH scary, guess you should just stay in the house the rest of your life. I am telling you and anyone else to enjoy your life in spite of the various terrors that are part of today's world. People who try to scare you, terrorist, pundit or politician, are trying to control you and get you to agree to things you never would in a more calm and rational state of mind.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I think Liberals want to have this incident defined as.....
A slight falling out between former co-workers...
Leading to a minor altercation.

How about we just use the rightwing logic here and say this guy was just some crazy psychopath?

You know, that was what we were told when those two rightwing extremists out in Nevada shot the two cops.

The beheader wasn't crazy. He's just following the koran. You know, a hundred verses of "kill the infidel"..... If he doesn't convert. He's just being a good ol muslim.

 

[Mustang]

Wow, you guys spend a lot of time being afraid of Muslims.

I mean, a sensible person would have said this was an ex-con who went nuts after he got fired.

Statistics clearly show that we've got a lot more to worry about from drunk drivers, and people texting while driving, and garden variety American criminals looking to steal your car or your laptop computer than we have to worry about from Muslim extremists.

You are free to leave your head stuck in the dirt while the rest of us are proactive.

You're joining the fight? Gonna take it right to ISIS, huh?

Meanwhile you will remain fat dumb and happy.

Actually, I've lost about 50 pounds in the last few months. Aside from that, my IQ is in the MENSA range, and, all things being equal, I feel pretty good.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

LOL hates the government but would commit mass murder if it said it was OK. You are no better than those ISIS fucks who kill people in cold blood and look to God's book to make it a virtue. Good thing you are too cowardly to act on your convictions.

I don't hate the government, worked for them for 7 years myself. I hate having it morph into an omnipresent force and micromanaging our lives. It would be for the greater good.

The government is no different than it ever was during our lifetimes, you just became more of an an intolerant jackass.

Oh yes it has become more invasive into private lives. The good thing is that it is mostly incompetent.

 

[orogenicman]

If I am a liberal Nazi,

Actually, if you look at modern American liberals and their big government policies...they are more in line with the governing beliefs of the national socialists than liberals will admit...they are both lefties and believe in the power of the state over the individual....

Tea Party, libertarians, conservativ Americans believe in the power of the individual over the state...and believe in limited government and seperation of powers...

Actually, if you understood the history of big government (I.e., George W. Bush nearly doubled the size of the government), you wouldn't make such ignorant statements.

no deflection permitted.
Since you opened the door.
Bush 43 was not a conservative. He governed as a right leaning populist.
Liberals hated Bush 43 because he stole their issues

Right. That's why the majority of conservatives voted for him, Liberals hated Bush because he was an idiot.

How young are you?

NOBODY was going to beat Bush coming out of the Reagan years.

Once we figured out what he wasn't he lost his shine.

Erm, you are confusing Bushes. Try again.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think Liberals want to have this incident defined as.....
A slight falling out between former co-workers...
Leading to a minor altercation.

How about we just use the rightwing logic here and say this guy was just some crazy psychopath?

You know, that was what we were told when those two rightwing extremists out in Nevada shot the two cops.

The beheader wasn't crazy. He's just following the koran. You know, a hundred verses of "kill the infidel"..... If he doesn't convert. He's just being a good ol muslim.

Well, unbeknownst to you, the American Muslim community doesn't agree:

“We wholly reject this barbaric and inhumane act,” Nasim Rehmatullah, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA, said in a statement. “And we mourn with the victims.”

Muslim groups condemn Oklahoma beheading - LA Times
In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council sent its "deepest condolences" to the families of victims and are in "close communication" with law enforcement agencies and government officials.

 

[orogenicman]

That's your analogy? What is it about the 2nd Amendment that would lead someone to think murder is OK? Obviously many do with Islam. Have you thought about this? Can you think about it?

Let me ask you to clarify some things first....are all American Muslims radicals and murders? Should they all be labeled as radicals and murderers? Should they ALL be watched by homeland security and the NSA or be gathered in to internment camps?

Did you read what I wrote? I said many Muslims don't have a problem with murder, how did that translate into all? How is it a coincidence that so many are that way? Your gun ownership analogy is way off, especially legal gun ownership. You are doing what leftists typically do and playing a moral equivalence game. The odd thing is that liberals would be on the top of the list of targets if Muslims took control.

Here's the thing with Islam, especially here in the US. Muslims REFUSE to speak out against the few assholes that are destroying their religion. This is MY problem with these assholes. By remaining silent, they are quietly condoning this shit. Have the damned guts to speak out against these monsters. But they don't......I have to believe that they are secretly praying that these jihadists are successful. What the hell else can we think?

Really? Tell that to this female Muslim pilot who participated in the air attack against ISIS:

Perhaps you should have the guts to pick up a gun and go fight the bastards yourself.

DO NOT ever get caught posting anything opposing military spending

I don't oppose military spending as long as it isn't out of control and is commensurate with the threat. That said, our current spending level is far and above anything we actually need.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I think Liberals want to have this incident defined as.....
A slight falling out between former co-workers...
Leading to a minor altercation.

How about we just use the rightwing logic here and say this guy was just some crazy psychopath?

You know, that was what we were told when those two rightwing extremists out in Nevada shot the two cops.

The beheader wasn't crazy. He's just following the koran. You know, a hundred verses of "kill the infidel"..... If he doesn't convert. He's just being a good ol muslim.

Well, unbeknownst to you, the American Muslim community doesn't agree:

“We wholly reject this barbaric and inhumane act,” Nasim Rehmatullah, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA, said in a statement. “And we mourn with the victims.”

Muslim groups condemn Oklahoma beheading - LA Times
In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council sent its "deepest condolences" to the families of victims and are in "close communication" with law enforcement agencies and government officials.

Uh huh. Sure thing. I didn't figure you would be this gullible, Carb.

 

[orogenicman]

Did you read what I wrote? I said many Muslims don't have a problem with murder, how did that translate into all? How is it a coincidence that so many are that way? Your gun ownership analogy is way off, especially legal gun ownership. You are doing what leftists typically do and playing a moral equivalence game. The odd thing is that liberals would be on the top of the list of targets if Muslims took control.

Here's the thing with Islam, especially here in the US. Muslims REFUSE to speak out against the few assholes that are destroying their religion. This is MY problem with these assholes. By remaining silent, they are quietly condoning this shit. Have the damned guts to speak out against these monsters. But they don't......I have to believe that they are secretly praying that these jihadists are successful. What the hell else can we think?

Really? Tell that to this female Muslim pilot who participated in the air attack against ISIS:

WOW...that is your example? Seriously!?!? Is she a US Citizen? WOW....what a great photo op.....fuck you.

Are you suggesting that because she is not an American that her actions don't count? Are you suggesting that there are no Muslims in the U.S. military, that none have participated in the hundreds of military responses to terrorism our people have made over the years. You people rant before you think. No doubt it comes from either youth or plain stupidity.

No. What is being suggested is that you as a radical Islam sympathizer decided this was a convenient time for a photo op.

That's the funniest thing I've read all month. You guys are desperate if this is all you can come up with.

 

[Mustang]

LOL hates the government but would commit mass murder if it said it was OK. You are no better than those ISIS fucks who kill people in cold blood and look to God's book to make it a virtue. Good thing you are too cowardly to act on your convictions.

I don't hate the government, worked for them for 7 years myself. I hate having it morph into an omnipresent force and micromanaging our lives. It would be for the greater good.

The government is no different than it ever was during our lifetimes, you just became more of an an intolerant jackass.

The sad part is you've accepted being subjugated by our ever growing, ever intrusive federal government

It wouldn't surprise me if the gov't told us that they were going to have to start strip searching us in order to better protect all of us. You know, just in case one of those Islamaniac terrorists planted a bomb on one of us.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think Liberals want to have this incident defined as.....
A slight falling out between former co-workers...
Leading to a minor altercation.

How about we just use the rightwing logic here and say this guy was just some crazy psychopath?

You know, that was what we were told when those two rightwing extremists out in Nevada shot the two cops.

The beheader wasn't crazy. He's just following the koran. You know, a hundred verses of "kill the infidel"..... If he doesn't convert. He's just being a good ol muslim.

Well, unbeknownst to you, the American Muslim community doesn't agree:

“We wholly reject this barbaric and inhumane act,” Nasim Rehmatullah, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA, said in a statement. “And we mourn with the victims.”

Muslim groups condemn Oklahoma beheading - LA Times
In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council sent its "deepest condolences" to the families of victims and are in "close communication" with law enforcement agencies and government officials.

Uh huh. Sure thing. I didn't figure you would be this gullible, Carb.

You win this week's prize for most predictable denialist response.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

LOL hates the government but would commit mass murder if it said it was OK. You are no better than those ISIS fucks who kill people in cold blood and look to God's book to make it a virtue. Good thing you are too cowardly to act on your convictions.

I don't hate the government, worked for them for 7 years myself. I hate having it morph into an omnipresent force and micromanaging our lives. It would be for the greater good.

The government is no different than it ever was during our lifetimes, you just became more of an an intolerant jackass.

The sad part is you've accepted being subjugated by our ever growing, ever intrusive federal government

It wouldn't surprise me if the gov't told us that they were going to have to start strip searching us in order to better protect all of us. You know, just in case one of those Islamaniac terrorists planted a bomb on one of us.

We already do that to 90 year old grandma who's strapped in her wheelchair along with toddlers. Did you have something else in mind?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I think Liberals want to have this incident defined as.....
A slight falling out between former co-workers...
Leading to a minor altercation.

How about we just use the rightwing logic here and say this guy was just some crazy psychopath?

You know, that was what we were told when those two rightwing extremists out in Nevada shot the two cops.

The beheader wasn't crazy. He's just following the koran. You know, a hundred verses of "kill the infidel"..... If he doesn't convert. He's just being a good ol muslim.

Well, unbeknownst to you, the American Muslim community doesn't agree:

“We wholly reject this barbaric and inhumane act,” Nasim Rehmatullah, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA, said in a statement. “And we mourn with the victims.”

Muslim groups condemn Oklahoma beheading - LA Times
In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council sent its "deepest condolences" to the families of victims and are in "close communication" with law enforcement agencies and government officials.

Uh huh. Sure thing. I didn't figure you would be this gullible, Carb.

You win this week's prize for most predictable denialist response.

I'm awarding you with most gullible. Congrats, Carb. We're both winners.

 

[kaz]

Can you show where you made that point to liberals regarding Ferguson?

I played Left Field but this makes no sense to me?

Seriously? You don't get it?

I sure don't.

And you support government school educations? If you have a college degree, I'd sue to get your money back.

LOL what the hell are you talking about?

Put down the drugs man.

Get someone you know to read the conversation and explain it to you. Seriously.

 

[Antares]

"A few years later, in 1786, the new United States found that it was having to deal very directly with the tenets of the Muslim religion"


"That this might not be so easy was discovered by Jefferson and John Adams when they went to call on Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:"

"The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."

What Jefferson really thought about Islam.

Tell me again how it is ALL our fault.

No matter what Jefferson thought about Islam he would not have thought throwing our constitution out the window for the name of security would be the way to deal with them.

You're lost dude, you have been from the start.

 

[Antares]

I played Left Field but this makes no sense to me?

Seriously? You don't get it?

I sure don't.

And you support government school educations? If you have a college degree, I'd sue to get your money back.

LOL what the hell are you talking about?

Put down the drugs man.

Get someone you know to read the conversation and explain it to you. Seriously.

LOL,it's your contention if you can't back it up go play elsewhere kid.

You, like occupied are lost in never never land.

Back up what you say or go away...but either way please don't think anything either of you say carries any weight with me.

 

[occupied]

Seriously? You don't get it?

I sure don't.

And you support government school educations? If you have a college degree, I'd sue to get your money back.

LOL what the hell are you talking about?

Put down the drugs man.

Get someone you know to read the conversation and explain it to you. Seriously.

LOL,it's your contention if you can't back it up go play elsewhere kid.

You, like occupied are lost in never never land.

Back up what you say or go away...but either way please don't think anything either of you say carries any weight with me.

Why are you replying then?

 

[Antares]

I sure don't.

And you support government school educations? If you have a college degree, I'd sue to get your money back.

LOL what the hell are you talking about?

Put down the drugs man.

Get someone you know to read the conversation and explain it to you. Seriously.

LOL,it's your contention if you can't back it up go play elsewhere kid.

You, like occupied are lost in never never land.

Back up what you say or go away...but either way please don't think anything either of you say carries any weight with me.

Why are you replying then?

I notice you have declined to back up your assertion son

 

[occupied]

And you support government school educations? If you have a college degree, I'd sue to get your money back.

LOL what the hell are you talking about?

Put down the drugs man.

Get someone you know to read the conversation and explain it to you. Seriously.

LOL,it's your contention if you can't back it up go play elsewhere kid.

You, like occupied are lost in never never land.

Back up what you say or go away...but either way please don't think anything either of you say carries any weight with me.

Why are you replying then?

I notice you have declined to back up your assertion son

What assertion would that be daddy?