FIRED - Colorado Springs fires cops & firefighters

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    FIRED - Colorado Springs fires cops & firefighters -- how's that workin' out for the tax cutters?


    Anthropogenic warming-------Anthropogenic response



    Waldo Canyon Fire: Wildfire Near Colorado Springs Now 70 Percent Contained; Reconstruction Effort Dire

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    The devastation from the fire isn't the only thing residents need worry about -- thieves are taking advantage of the evacuated areas and looting homes. At least 32 homes were burglarized and dozens of evacuees' cars were broken into in the evacuation zones since the fire erupted about a week ago, according to Bloomberg. There have been three arrests so far.

    The string of burglaries has some wondering if Colorado Springs' anti-tax movement is partially to blame for a lack of resources to protect the area effectively. Bloomberg reports that the city has 50 fewer police and 39 fewer firefighters than five years ago.

    In 2010, Colorado Springs had a nearly $28 million budget shortfall so the city government sold police helicopters on the Internet, cut firefighter and police jobs -- including burglary investigators, according to The Denver Post -- asked residents to volunteer to mow public green spaces, and turned off more than thirty percent of the city's streetlights.

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    But OBAMA bad!
     
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    This particular mentality is evident in the money the Forest Service gets. They are told that they need to thin the forests, set controlled burns, and take better care of the land under their stewardship. Yet, by the end of fire season they have used almost all of their resources to fight the fires. And are told, tough shit, stay in your budget.

    The warming up and drying out of the southwest and mountainess states was predicted decades ago. Yet any kind of preperation for the results were obstructed by the oil patch senators and representatives. Just cannot go around admitting that global warming is real, and a danger to be prepared for.

    This video is nearly seven years old. Check out the predictions.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcuWaa6bn4g&feature=related]Global Climate Change: What's Ahead - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Is the import of your tale that no matter the compensation, reducing the municipal workforce is never appropriate?

    Bet you don't feel that way about healthcare costs.

    I couldn't find the salaries of the individuals in question in your link....do you know it?
    Or is this not important to you?


    This might not interest you, as well....


    "Study: County firefightersÂ’ average compensation dips to $175,000 from $189,000"
    Study: County firefighters' average compensation dips to $175,000 from $189,000 - Thursday, March 8, 2012 | 4:18 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun


    Is my impression correct: the less you know, the greater the propensity that you'll vote Democrat.
     
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    Forest fires are a natural occurrence and if one lives in an area prone to fires then one should be willing to put up with the consequences.

    What I don't understand is why people don't build and maintain fire breaks around their neighborhoods

    I guess it's because they're waiting for the fucking government to take care of them and we all know how well that works.
     
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    And how much overtime do these people put in? How about the factor of the dangers that they face? Also, they have to be licensed EMT's, at least in my state.

    Now, as just a journey level millwright, I have made six figures a few times, when the overtime was intense. The firefighters face even greater physical challenges and dangers. I know that for a fact, when it comes to forest fires, been there, done that.

    But PC is OK with people that work in the financial sector, make millions of dollar crashing the system, while the greatest danger they face is a paper cut.

    The men and women that are on the line in these fires deserve to be compensated very well.
     
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    If neighborhoods were planned properly we could just let the fires burn as they would have naturally.

    It' is folly to think that we can contain forces of nature
     
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    Well, I do think that we need to make some rules concerning mixing housing and forests. If you fail to use materials that will not burn on all exterior surfaces, you do not get a building permit. No insurance, and no government compensation for fire damage.

    But then we are back to government regulations again, aren't we. And you 'Conservatives' want none of that.
     
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    Given the extreme dryness of the forests at present in the Southwest, they will all be crown fires, and that is not 'natural' fire state.

    What we are seeing in the Southwest is the result of man's influencing nature. The heating and drying of that area was predicted decades ago, and we are seeing the predictions come true. The scientists even specifically stated that the fires that would result would be epic in nature.
     
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    Yeah god fucking forbid people actually take care of themselves.

    It is not a big deal to establish and maintain fire breaks around populated areas.

    If you want to build a house in the middle of a forest that is prone to wildfires then tough shit. You deal with the consequences. The fucking government need not be involved at all.
     

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