Fighting Off the Onset of Alzheimer's Disease

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    Want to fight alzheimers? Support stem cell research.
     
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    Support adult stem cell research. That's where the results have been.
     
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    But not where the REAL results WILL be....

    http://alzheimers.about.com/od/research/f/stemcells_which.htm
     
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    why don't we just support stem cell research and start with the least offensive source and work our way up? Maybe we'll hit paydirt without having to stunt progress while pissing people off..
     
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    Because people are dying while they're futzing around with things that won't work as well.

    If they find it offensive, I respect that. But then they should opt not to benefit from any treatment resulting from stem cells. In the meantime, we're falling behind much of the world. Me? If a loved one or I have an illness, I want every possible effort made to cure or treat the problem.
     
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    how do you know they won't work as well unless we try?


    Where is the progress while debating and arguing about stem cells for three years into a political standstill?
     
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    To the best of my knowledge, they HAVE been doing research on adult stem cells. It's just not as effective. Adult stem cells don't have the pliability that embryonic stem cells have.

    There is no rational reason to not use all tools at our disposal. No one is going to choose to have an abortion or terminate a pregnancy if they think those cells are going to be used for science. Conversely, NOT using the cells won't have one bit of effect on abortion rates. Why not use cells that serve no other purpose?
     
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    What about menstrual blood? It seems that sources for viable stem cells have been popping out of the woodwork lately. Indeed, That's about as pliable as it gets AND unlimited in resource, eh?


    Please don't get wrapped up in the rhetoric and make stem cells another abortion issue. You will be crippling progress towards a common goal. Yes, there is plenty of reason to consider the opinions of those who don't believe the way we do about reproductive cells. I'd rather not have to wait 30 years until this gets raked through he coals of the supreme court to actually get somewhere.

    Can you guarentee results on embryonic stem cells? If not, then siding with caution when a significant portion of our population gets rightfully uneasy, is reason to start low and work our way up to more divisive options.
     
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    Significant portion? Or powerful portion? And what if it were AIPAC campaigning against it? Would you still say, "[side] with caution".

    It isn't another "abortion issue" except that's what the radical right has made it because they insert the same dogma into the science that they do into "creationism" and things like the Terri Schiavo matter.

    We're not going to agree on this, which is ok.

    As for menstrul blood. Honestly? I've never heard of that as an option. And, frankly, the issue of collection seems a little er... odd.
     

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