Fifty-seven swimmers fall sick and get diarrhoea at world triathlon championship in Sunderland

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Inside the capitalâs water crisis â are Londonersâ taps about to run dry?

After years of piling on debt and sucking out profits to pay shareholders rather than improve infrastructure, Thames Water is near collapse — leaving the city 24 hours away from having its supply turned off. Claire Cohen investigates

www.standard.co.uk

So that addresses that issue, but still isn't relevant to the OP's situation. It's a Guilt by Association fallacy.

Granted, I'm not saying he's wrong. I prefer evidence, not conjecture.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well son of a gun. They sure did write it on a piece of paper, didn't they?

Here in the states we don't get our rights from the central government, thankfully.

They really are.

 

[DGS49]

We used to own the water. thatcher bitch gave it away. Now they use our bills to pay dividends instead of fixing the system .

Its another failure of capitalism.

The problem is with PRIVATE PROPERTY. It is not the government's problem. Buildings have their gutters and downspouts routed into the sanitary sewer system that treats human waste. Those plants are not equipped for the massive increases in flow that follow a heavy rainstorm. The solution is to require private property owners to re-rout their stormwater, AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE.

If the Sovereign wants the plants to be increased in size to treat all possible flows, the private contractors will gladly do so, but the cost cannot be paid with fairy dust. It must be paid by British taxpayers, or ratepayers, as the case may be.

Are you such a dullard that you don't understand NO PRIVATE CONCERN WILL ACCEPT UNKNOWN RISKS AT A FIXED COST!

Holy shit, what a maroon.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The problem is with PRIVATE PROPERTY. It is not the government's problem. Buildings have their gutters and downspouts routed into the sanitary sewer system that treats human waste. Those plants are not equipped for the massive increases in flow that follow a heavy rainstorm. The solution is to require private property owners to re-rout their stormwater, AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE.

If the Sovereign wants the plants to be increased in size to treat all possible flows, the private contractors will gladly do so, but the cost cannot be paid with fairy dust. It must be paid by British taxpayers, or ratepayers, as the case may be.

Are you such a dullard that you don't understand NO PRIVATE CONCERN WILL ACCEPT UNKNOWN RISKS AT A FIXED COST!

Holy shit, what a maroon.

The solution is a publicly owned water company that serves the public and not its owners. Its not complicated even for an extremist like you.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Water firms facing legal action over claims of pollution and customer overcharging

Severn Trent Water, Thames Water, United Utilities, Anglian Water, Yorkshire Water and Northumbrian Water could all be taken to the Competition Appeal Tribunal. Water UK - the industry body representing the firms - said the accusations are "entirely without merit".

news.sky.com

Another day another shit storm.

 

[martybegan]

(1) You don't get indigestion from swimming in shit; you get it from consuming it. Perhaps the affected athletes had dinner locally and drank tap water or ate salads that had been washed in the poor-quality water. Could even come from tea(!) if the water was not boiled.

(2) Combined sewage overflow occurs in many places in the U.S., and I presume in the rest of the world as well. Many years ago it was customary to route residential gutters and downspouts (stormwater) into the "sanitary" sewer system, and the system was never equipped to handle double or triple the flow that it normally sees, when there is a storm. So the overflow goes right into the river, creek, or in this case the ocean. It is an AWFULLY expensive problem to fix, and the burden falls entirely on homeowners (not the government), who must reroute his own pipes, typically at his own cost. In the U.S. you are looking at a couple thousand dollars per residence, as a minimum. Politicians are reluctant to take this initiative because it aggravates the voters by costing them a ton of money for no visible benefit. It's not unique to the UK.

(3) God treats wastewater with natural processes, mostly bacteria. A week after a storm, the water is fine. It's a good thing, too, because people have been evacuating their digestive systems into the ground and into any available body of water, for as long as there have been people. Treatment of "waste" is a relatively new phenomenon.

(4) None of this has anything to do with Margaret Thatcher, may she rest in peace. She didn't create the problem, nor did she have the power to fix it. Nor does it have anything to do with privatization of wastewater treatment. No private contractor would have signed up to guarantee treatment of all stormwater as well as the wastewater that the system they inherited was designed to treat.

(5) What an ignorant dick you are. (Sorry, had to type that).

As a Wastewater Engineer, I concur with this.


The only quibble is that while the connections would be the homeowner's problem, dividing up a combined sewer line into storm and sanitary lines would be the government's issue, and in a place like NYC would require digging up most of the streets in phases to do the work.

Most wastewater plants are designed to handle 1.5x to 2x dry flow, so a small rain wont' result in an overflow, or at least a big one.

 

[martybegan]

The solution is a publicly owned water company that serves the public and not its owners. Its not complicated even for an extremist like you.

That worked in flint....not.

The solution is the government owns the infrastructure but contracts out the running of the plants, so if the operator sucks they can get a new one. Full government ownership and operation results in an agency that can't be removed, and civil servants that can't be fired short of criminality.

 

[martybegan]

Correlation is not causation.

Also, one would hope the water supply and wastewater discharge are not the same systems.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That worked in flint....not.

The solution is the government owns the infrastructure but contracts out the running of the plants, so if the operator sucks they can get a new one. Full government ownership and operation results in an agency that can't be removed, and civil servants that can't be fired short of criminality.

It worked very well for the century after public money built the infrastructure and maintained it. Bills were lower as well.
thatcher sold it off so she could give tax cuts to rich people.
Now we are all being shafted.

 

[martybegan]

It worked very well for the century after public money built the infrastructure and maintained it. Bills were lower as well.
thatcher sold it off so she could give tax cuts to rich people.
Now we are all being shafted.

Or were you not just paying attention to the issues then because you didn't have some capitalist plot to make up?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Fifty-seven swimmers fall sick and get diarrhoea at world triathlon championship in Sunderland

Athletes competing on stretch of UK coastline where reduced water quality at centre of dispute over sewage discharges

www.theguardian.com

This is what happens when you swim in shit.
And this is also what happens when bitch thatcher sells off all of our water to private companies.

Nothing will happen. The company will not sort it. The govt has a vested interest in looking the other way and the shit will continue to flow in our waters so that some **** can make a profit.

Hilarious!
The article literally says the problems began in 2017, and the CURRENT government has consistently not complied with regulations between 2017 and 2021.
And despite sewage overflow was recorded 28 different times in 2022 - the government did nothing.

And this dude blames Margaret Thatcher who has not been in office for 33 years!!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hilarious!
The article literally says the problems began in 2017, and the CURRENT government has consistently not complied with regulations between 2017 and 2021.
And despite sewage overflow was recorded 28 different times in 2022 - the government did nothing.

And this dude blames Margaret Thatcher who has not been in office for 33 years!!

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thatcher sold it off and set up the pathetic regulatory regime. The govt cant touch the companies in case they undermine the project.
But brits can smell the shit now.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

thatcher sold it off and set up the pathetic regulatory regime. The govt cant touch the companies in case they undermine the project.
But brits can smell the shit now.

No
The article you linked said the problems first began in 2017.
27 years after Thatcher left.
It is beyond ludicrous to have no blame for the government that has been in charge, and go back 33 years to someone you just happen to dislike.
Absurd, but perfectly par for the course for Tommy Tainant.

 

[The Duke]

Fifty-seven swimmers fall sick and get diarrhoea at world triathlon championship in Sunderland

Athletes competing on stretch of UK coastline where reduced water quality at centre of dispute over sewage discharges

www.theguardian.com

This is what happens when you swim in shit.
And this is also what happens when bitch thatcher sells off all of our water to private companies.

Nothing will happen. The company will not sort it. The govt has a vested interest in looking the other way and the shit will continue to flow in our waters so that some **** can make a profit.

No EPA, Tommykins?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

No EPA, Tommykins?

If one of the members of the royal family planned to swim, they would have been right on it

 

[odanny]

Hilarious!
The article literally says the problems began in 2017, and the CURRENT government has consistently not complied with regulations between 2017 and 2021.
And despite sewage overflow was recorded 28 different times in 2022 - the government did nothing.

And this dude blames Margaret Thatcher who has not been in office for 33 years!!

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Damn you’re dumb.

 

[Deadstick]

Why are you Brits so uncaring about the environment?

It's the criminal Government and their rabid capitalist credo, the scumbags should be shot.

 

[Deadstick]

Must be the reason. Couldn't possibly be any other explanation.

It IS the reason, the Bitch handed the water over to Corporate jackals.

 

[Deadstick]

Thames water is a huge scandal. One of the biggest transfer of assets ever.

Well i heard the scumbags are going to get their arses sued.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

No EPA, Tommykins?

OFWAT are nominally in control. But their main aim is to get jobs with the water companies.
thames water has something like 20 ex ofwat execs on the books.
Its just a racket.