Ferguson Shooting re:Audio tape

[Delta4Embassy]

As I'd hoped, someone had audio of the shooting (ok allegedly.) And as I expected, the officer shot in rapid-fire fashion as indicated on the tape. I'd figured that when seeing the autopsy results and noting the hit pattern on Mr. Brown's arm. The pause in the shooting audio being hyped up isn't surprising either. It's indicative of the officer either losing track of how many rounds he'd fired and reloading to be safe then resuming fire, or more likely, noticing his target isn't falling down correcting, taking a deep breath and continuing to fire.

While emptying your clip, reloading, and emptying another might seem excessive to laypeople, it's actually what officers are taught to do. My thinking is once he began to fire on Mr. Brown he reverted to his training model and did exactly as he'd been trained to do. Whether he reloaded or not is moot. Whether he paused and corrected and resumed fire is moot. He behaved as he'd been trained and the justification to use lethal force doesn't change or cease because you pause in the exercise of it.

While some are describing the audio as 'damning' I think it simply further vindicates the officer.

 

[Rotagilla]

As I'd hoped, someone had audio of the shooting (ok allegedly.) And as I expected, the officer shot in rapid-fire fashion as indicated on the tape. I'd figured that when seeing the autopsy results and noting the hit pattern on Mr. Brown's arm. The pause in the shooting audio being hyped up isn't surprising either. It's indicative of the officer either losing track of how many rounds he'd fired and reloading to be safe then resuming fire, or more likely, noticing his target isn't falling down correcting, taking a deep breath and continuing to fire.

While emptying your clip, reloading, and emptying another might seem excessive to laypeople, it's actually what officers are taught to do. My thinking is once he began to fire on Mr. Brown he reverted to his training model and did exactly as he'd been trained to do. Whether he reloaded or not is moot. Whether he paused and corrected and resumed fire is moot. He behaved as he'd been trained and the justification to use lethal force doesn't change or cease because you pause in the exercise of it.

While some are describing the audio as 'damning' I think it simply further vindicates the officer.

Where is this "audio"?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Heard it live last night on CNN as the story was breaking. Lemme see if I can find a link to one online...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Here's their coverage of it, posted an hour ago,
Lawyer Audio shows pause in fire in Ferguson - CNN.com

Don't see anything to play the audio but don't have scripts going on their site either so maybe someone else would see that option. Probably all over youtube by now as well.

 

[Bush92]

Do we have audio of Brown beating officer ?

 

[EverCurious]

It was in the video on the link (twice)

I'm not sure it supports one way any more than the other... I'll need more evidence to be 100% decided myself.

 

[jon_berzerk]

As I'd hoped, someone had audio of the shooting (ok allegedly.) And as I expected, the officer shot in rapid-fire fashion as indicated on the tape. I'd figured that when seeing the autopsy results and noting the hit pattern on Mr. Brown's arm. The pause in the shooting audio being hyped up isn't surprising either. It's indicative of the officer either losing track of how many rounds he'd fired and reloading to be safe then resuming fire, or more likely, noticing his target isn't falling down correcting, taking a deep breath and continuing to fire.

While emptying your clip, reloading, and emptying another might seem excessive to laypeople, it's actually what officers are taught to do. My thinking is once he began to fire on Mr. Brown he reverted to his training model and did exactly as he'd been trained to do. Whether he reloaded or not is moot. Whether he paused and corrected and resumed fire is moot. He behaved as he'd been trained and the justification to use lethal force doesn't change or cease because you pause in the exercise of it.

While some are describing the audio as 'damning' I think it simply further vindicates the officer.

his pistol and magazine held 13 rounds

i would say alleged

since the first round is missing

and there was other gunfire in the area at that time

 

[jon_berzerk]

As I'd hoped, someone had audio of the shooting (ok allegedly.) And as I expected, the officer shot in rapid-fire fashion as indicated on the tape. I'd figured that when seeing the autopsy results and noting the hit pattern on Mr. Brown's arm. The pause in the shooting audio being hyped up isn't surprising either. It's indicative of the officer either losing track of how many rounds he'd fired and reloading to be safe then resuming fire, or more likely, noticing his target isn't falling down correcting, taking a deep breath and continuing to fire.

While emptying your clip, reloading, and emptying another might seem excessive to laypeople, it's actually what officers are taught to do. My thinking is once he began to fire on Mr. Brown he reverted to his training model and did exactly as he'd been trained to do. Whether he reloaded or not is moot. Whether he paused and corrected and resumed fire is moot. He behaved as he'd been trained and the justification to use lethal force doesn't change or cease because you pause in the exercise of it.

While some are describing the audio as 'damning' I think it simply further vindicates the officer.

Where is this "audio"?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Heard it was a .40S&W? So a Glock 22?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Heard it was a .40S&W? So a Glock 22?

Sig226 .40 cal supposedly

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Been a while but isn't the 226 a 9mm?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Been a while but isn't the 226 a 9mm?

several calibers

 

[Delta4Embassy]

several calibers

oic, been out of the biz 20+ years.

 

[jon_berzerk]

several calibers

oic, been out of the biz 20+ years.

but remember we do not know the weapon used for sure at this point

 

[Rotagilla]

That's BS..there is no way to prove where or when that was..hell..they could say that was from the grassy knoll in dallas...but I understand your need to defend negroes...

Lucky for Delta4Embassy they haven't targeted homosexual jews...THEN he'd have some concrete opinions, I estimate.

 

[mudwhistle]

Heard it was a .40S&W? So a Glock 22?

I have one of those. About the size of a 10mm round. He could have a Springfield Armory Service Model XD. There are several guns that fire that cartridge.

 

[jon_berzerk]

That's BS..there is no way to prove where or when that was..hell..they could say that was from the grassy knoll in dallas...but I understand your need to defend negroes...

Lucky for Delta4Embassy they haven't targeted homosexual jews...THEN he'd have some concrete opinions, I estimate.

the guy seems to be recording porn btw

not on video chat

--LOL

 

[Delta4Embassy]

but remember we do not know the weapon used for sure at this point

Agree.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

That's BS..there is no way to prove where or when that was..hell..they could say that was from the grassy knoll in dallas...but I understand your need to defend negroes...

Lucky for Delta4Embassy they haven't targeted homosexual jews...THEN he'd have some concrete opinions, I estimate.

(looks all around)

Anyone know what he's responding to?

 

[jon_berzerk]

That's BS..there is no way to prove where or when that was..hell..they could say that was from the grassy knoll in dallas...but I understand your need to defend negroes...

Lucky for Delta4Embassy they haven't targeted homosexual jews...THEN he'd have some concrete opinions, I estimate.

the recording flies in the face of witness accounts

that said there was one shot

followed by several others