Feds fabricate data to cover the failure of the Endangered Species Act.

[koshergrl]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

That's a lie the brownshirts tell to justify these armed, jackbooted thugs who are destroying our public lands and interfering with our ability to farm, ranch, and access resources which belong to us.

Down with the USFS. Down with the BLM. Down with the EPA.

Interior chief wants to shed 4,000 employees in department shake-up

Winning:

Forest Service Law Enforcement Hindered by Inadequate Budget, Group Says - FEDagent - News for federal agents and 1811’s

 

[BlackFlag]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

What a lying douchebag. Do you ever post anything that isn't obviously a lie?

Let me clarify, they do it to make a buck without regard for the land. Destroying with impunity being an expected possibility.

 

[BlackFlag]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

That's a lie the brownshirts tell to justify these armed, jackbooted thugs who are destroying our public lands and interfering with our ability to farm, ranch, and access resources which belong to us.

Down with the USFS. Down with the BLM. Down with the EPA.

Interior chief wants to shed 4,000 employees in department shake-up

Winning:

Forest Service Law Enforcement Hindered by Inadequate Budget, Group Says - FEDagent - News for federal agents and 1811’s

Maybe if the taxpayer wasn't massively subsidizing the bloated farm industry, I'd feel more sympathetic.

 

[koshergrl]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

That's a lie the brownshirts tell to justify these armed, jackbooted thugs who are destroying our public lands and interfering with our ability to farm, ranch, and access resources which belong to us.

Down with the USFS. Down with the BLM. Down with the EPA.

Interior chief wants to shed 4,000 employees in department shake-up

Winning:

Forest Service Law Enforcement Hindered by Inadequate Budget, Group Says - FEDagent - News for federal agents and 1811’s

Maybe if the taxpayer wasn't massively subsidizing the bloated farm industry, I'd feel more sympathetic.

Subsidies are nothing but bribes. I'm with you, they need to get rid of them.
But they can't get rid of them unless they remove the ridiculous restrictions, taxes, and penalties that the feds plague land owners with. The reason they exist is to offset those unconstitutional shackles on our resources.

 

[BlackFlag]

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

That's a lie the brownshirts tell to justify these armed, jackbooted thugs who are destroying our public lands and interfering with our ability to farm, ranch, and access resources which belong to us.

Down with the USFS. Down with the BLM. Down with the EPA.

Interior chief wants to shed 4,000 employees in department shake-up

Winning:

Forest Service Law Enforcement Hindered by Inadequate Budget, Group Says - FEDagent - News for federal agents and 1811’s

Maybe if the taxpayer wasn't massively subsidizing the bloated farm industry, I'd feel more sympathetic.

Subsidies are nothing but bribes. I'm with you, they need to get rid of them.
But they can't get rid of them unless they remove the ridiculous restrictions, taxes, and penalties that the feds plague land owners with. The reason they exist is to offset those unconstitutional shackles on our resources.

If the ethanol industry disappeared and all other subsidies stopped, all the butthurt farmers and ranchers that want to exploit public land would vanish.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

What a lying douchebag. Do you ever post anything that isn't obviously a lie?

Let me clarify, they do it to make a buck without regard for the land. Destroying with impunity being an expected possibility.

Who has a goal of destroying the land?

 

[BlackFlag]

Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

What a lying douchebag. Do you ever post anything that isn't obviously a lie?

Let me clarify, they do it to make a buck without regard for the land. Destroying with impunity being an expected possibility.

Who has a goal of destroying the land?

Nobody. Humans are pure, and if you think about it that means all laws and regulations are completely unnecessary.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Species and land being put under federal protection is a good thing.

A/K/A no private land ownership under your communist utopia.

 

[BlackFlag]

Species and land being put under federal protection is a good thing.

A/K/A no private land ownership under your communist utopia.

Wrong, of course. So retarded.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

They have been showing false info for many years. I patrolled the Glades for year and there was no shortage of the dog eaters. The Seminoles kept them inline and made a living off the hunts. So if they did that then I bet there was more false reports files.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Wrong, of course. So retarded

Lying, of course. We don’t believe you.

 

[BlackFlag]

Wrong, of course. So retarded

Lying, of course. We don’t believe you.

You guys love to invent things people say and think when you have zero argument.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

1. No. and 2. It doesn't do that. All it does is allow the feds to destroy with impunity.

Destroying with impunity is typically the goal of people fighting to get rid of state and federal protections for our land

What a lying douchebag. Do you ever post anything that isn't obviously a lie?

Let me clarify, they do it to make a buck without regard for the land. Destroying with impunity being an expected possibility.

Who has a goal of destroying the land?

Nobody. Humans are pure, and if you think about it that means all laws and regulations are completely unnecessary.

Then what the hell was the point of your post?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lying corporate shill is paid by the Heritage Foundation to fool bunch of gullible Republican voters.

Hmm, this must be a day that ends in y.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

There are a lot of animals that are only endangered because of human activity. Do you know how ridiculous what you just said sounds? "Oh, human deforestation made that animal endangered? Let it die; no point fucking with nature."

Instead of saying it's ridiculous, why don't you point out why we should keep these animals from going extinct.

I have to agree with Confounding. You are a fucking idiot. No sane person wants a species to go extinct.

Hold on a minute...Mexifornia politicians want Caucasians “extinct” in Mexifornia.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Lying corporate chill is paid by the Heritage Foundation to fool bunch of gullible Republican voters.

Hmm, this must be a day that ends in y.

Wait, what?

 

[Rustic]

Lying corporate shill is paid by the Heritage Foundation to fool bunch of gullible Republican voters.

Hmm, this must be a day that ends in y.

Environmentalism is all about fraud

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lying corporate shill is paid by the Heritage Foundation to fool bunch of gullible Republican voters.

Hmm, this must be a day that ends in y.

Environmentalism is all about fraud

No you idiots are all about fraud. You tell yourself these stupid lies because you're tired of feeling stupid

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Lying corporate shill is paid by the Heritage Foundation to fool bunch of gullible Republican voters.

Hmm, this must be a day that ends in y.

Environmentalism is all about fraud

No you idiots are all about fraud. You tell yourself these stupid lies because you're tired of feeling stupid

What does this even mean?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No you idiots are all about fraud. You tell yourself these stupid lies because you're tired of feeling stupid

Behold, the all-powerful “I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I/rubber-glue” response.