Feds fabricate data to cover the failure of the Endangered Species Act.

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    Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

    "Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

    "Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

    "Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

    “This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

    "Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

    Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report
     
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    Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.
     
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    There are a lot of animals that are only endangered because of human activity. Do you know how ridiculous what you just said sounds? "Oh, human deforestation made that animal endangered? Let it die; no point fucking with nature."
     
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    Instead of saying it's ridiculous, why don't you point out why we should keep these animals from going extinct.
     
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    I have to agree with Confounding. You are a fucking idiot. No sane person wants a species to go extinct.
     
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    Hey moron, why don't you and your retarded friend get together and "point out why we should keep these animals from going extinct" instead of "MeTooing" on the same baseless position?
     
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    Only a moron doesn't understand why you wouldn't want something as complex and miraculous as species to go extint. It took nature millions, if not billions, of years to create it, and once it's gone it can never be brought back
     
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    It’s always about statist government commie control. ALWAYS!
     
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    Anything that protects against human destruction, even a little bit, is a good thing
     
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    Slavery?

    Genocide?

    Internment?

    Mandatory birth control?
     
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