Federal Watchdog: Kellyanne Conway should be fired

[MarcATL]

So....shouldn't maxine waters, obama, clinton, biden, romney, kerry also be fired on the same grounds? Why yes. But...but...but

Note: The poster is UNABLE to refute the charges against the subject.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

 

[MarcATL]

How dare people hold donnie and his gang to the law!!!!! FACISTS!!!!!

This is THEE most criminal Administration in American history.

 

[jc456]

And how many FBI agents have been shitcanned at this point for their nefarious actions regarding the FISA warrants and the Mewler report ?

shitcanned by the guy desperate to cover his portly ass.

Ain’t you glad you live in a land that allows your kind of hate?

 

[jc456]

So....shouldn't maxine waters, obama, clinton, biden, romney, kerry also be fired on the same grounds? Why yes. But...but...but

Note: The poster is UNABLE to refute the charges against the subject.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

Well what is the crime? Can’t refute a nothing burger. Can’t even eat one. Guess why?

 

[Aldo Raine]

I hope she doesn't get fired.

This wacky thing she has going on with her anti-Trumper hubby is too much fun to watch.

Yup, I have to agree with you here!!!

 

[bullwinkle]

And how many FBI agents have been shitcanned at this point for their nefarious actions regarding the FISA warrants and the Mewler report ?

shitcanned by the guy desperate to cover his portly ass.

Shitcanned by the FBI.

Well so far all I know that has been shitcanned by the FBI is Strock (sp?) and he was off the case the moment his Email to Page was known way back when.

 

[bullwinkle]

Ain’t you glad you live in a land that allows your kind of hate?

Gee, if only I could have YOUR kind of hate, then I'd be pure as the driven snow, right?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And how many FBI agents have been shitcanned at this point for their nefarious actions regarding the FISA warrants and the Mewler report ?

shitcanned by the guy desperate to cover his portly ass.

Shitcanned by the FBI.

Well so far all I know that has been shitcanned by the FBI is Strock (sp?) and he was off the case the moment his Email to Page was known way back when.

FBI Departures:

1. James Comey, director (fired)
2. Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
3. Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
4. Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
5. James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
6. James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
7. Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
8. Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
9. James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
10. Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
11. Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
12. John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)

DOJ Departures:

1. Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
2. Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
3. David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
4. Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
5. Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
6. John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
7. Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
8. Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
9. Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
10. Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
11. Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
12. Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
13. Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
14. Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)

Strzok Joins List of 25 Top FBI, DOJ Officials Who Have Been Recently Fired, Demoted, or Resigned

 

[NoVote]

Trump has spoke 4 words...

"Kellyanne is going nowhere"

End of story.

 

[theHawk]

^ still doesn’t outlaw speaking against an opposing political party.

Are you idiots going to claim that DoD officials speaking out against terrorists are violating the Hatch Act too? After all, the Dems are pro-Islamic radicals now.

No, speaking out against terrorists is not "political activity" Speaking out against political opponents during elections is.

The President’s staff can speak out against political opponents all they want, whether they are Dem or Republicans.

Not when they are paid by the taxpayers. If she wants to engage in partisan politics then put her on the RNC payroll.

So it’s perfectly fine for Congress critters to engage in partisan politics while being paid by taxpayers, but not a Republican in the executive branch.

Yea, that makes a lot of sense.

Hawk, I guess Hatch should have checked with you before he proposed the act, right? Are you saying that if a law doesn't make sense to you, you are free to ignore it? This is one of those times when I have to quote the old cliche so famous among Republicans that 'the law is the law. If you don't like it change it. Meantime...' The Trump-appointed head of OSC is adamant that the law is broken. And this admin is really good at claiming they didn't know it is wrong while piously turning eyes heavenward.

The Hatch Act is quite ridiculous if you read it. It’s very vague, using ambiguous terms for a law is always a bad idea. If challenged it will probably be tossed out by the SCOTUS.

 

[theHawk]

Are “they” the Department of Justice? When was her trial for violating this “law”?

"They" are the Office of Special Counsel, led by Trump nominee Henry Kerner ("only the best people") and confirmed by a Republican Congress.

Well “they” may want to actually read what is allowed by the Hatch Act:

These federal and D.C. employees may:

• be candidates for public office in nonpartisan elections
• register and vote as they choose
• assist in voter registration drives
• express opinions about candidates and issues
• contribute money to political organizations
• attend political fundraising functions
• attend and be active at political rallies and meetings
• join and be an active member of a political party or club
• sign nominating petitions
• campaign for or against referendum questions, constitutional amendments, municipal ordinances
• campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections
• make campaign speeches for candidates in partisan elections
• distribute campaign literature in partisan elections
• hold office in political clubs or parties

Hatch Act of 1939 - Wikipedia

I see you're very selective in the material you choose as your link also states:

These federal employees may not:

• 
  
  
  • campaign for or against a candidate or slate of candidates in partisan elections

Correction, they may do just that.

What a pity you don't understand the law. I even showed where it says political activity is not allowed

And I showed you where it clearly says it is allowed.

 

[SandSquid]

No, speaking out against terrorists is not "political activity" Speaking out against political opponents during elections is.

The President’s staff can speak out against political opponents all they want, whether they are Dem or Republicans.

Not when they are paid by the taxpayers. If she wants to engage in partisan politics then put her on the RNC payroll.

So it’s perfectly fine for Congress critters to engage in partisan politics while being paid by taxpayers, but not a Republican in the executive branch.

Yea, that makes a lot of sense.

Hawk, I guess Hatch should have checked with you before he proposed the act, right? Are you saying that if a law doesn't make sense to you, you are free to ignore it? This is one of those times when I have to quote the old cliche so famous among Republicans that 'the law is the law. If you don't like it change it. Meantime...' The Trump-appointed head of OSC is adamant that the law is broken. And this admin is really good at claiming they didn't know it is wrong while piously turning eyes heavenward.

The Hatch Act is quite ridiculous if you read it. It’s very vague, using ambiguous terms for a law is always a bad idea. If challenged it will probably be tossed out by the SCOTUS.

Not really. I guess if it's beyond someone's understanding it could be but then so is how a wheel works. Says you can't use official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election. She did that. Trump's nominee called her out for it multiple times and recommends that she be fired.

"They" are the Office of Special Counsel, led by Trump nominee Henry Kerner ("only the best people") and confirmed by a Republican Congress.

Well “they” may want to actually read what is allowed by the Hatch Act:

These federal and D.C. employees may:

• be candidates for public office in nonpartisan elections
• register and vote as they choose
• assist in voter registration drives
• express opinions about candidates and issues
• contribute money to political organizations
• attend political fundraising functions
• attend and be active at political rallies and meetings
• join and be an active member of a political party or club
• sign nominating petitions
• campaign for or against referendum questions, constitutional amendments, municipal ordinances
• campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections
• make campaign speeches for candidates in partisan elections
• distribute campaign literature in partisan elections
• hold office in political clubs or parties

Hatch Act of 1939 - Wikipedia

I see you're very selective in the material you choose as your link also states:

These federal employees may not:

• 
  
  
  • campaign for or against a candidate or slate of candidates in partisan elections

Correction, they may do just that.

What a pity you don't understand the law. I even showed where it says political activity is not allowed

Faun, I think it is a case of plausible deniability. If he doesn't look, he can claim it isn't so. A very old trick that fools nobody.

They may do just that AS A CITIZEN, but NOT using official authority or influence.

That's the issue. While speaking in her official capacity when she says those things it is clearly illegal. That's what Trumps OSC is recommending she be fired for.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What law? Making shit up turdball?

Good grief idiot, read the thread. Or the news.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Hatch Act is quite ridiculous if you read it.

Which you have not done, we can all be sure of that. I guarantee the Office of Special Counsel has read it, though.

 

[busybee01]

The most inspirational females in our generation and they attack her with this crap? Sad democrats are so angry

She is enabling one of the most corrupt administrations in history and engaging in illegal activity to boot. There is nothing inspirational about that. The bleach she uses in her hair has the same effect as the one Coulter uses. It softens the brain. You are so crooked you have to be screwed into your pants every day.

"She is enabling one of the most corrupt administrations in history"

... wait ... what ... ?

How many people from this administration have been convicted of a crime?

How many people have been forced out due to ethical questions.

Scott Pruitt - Faced over a dozen investigations into his travel expenses, use of aides to conduct his personal aid and other issues.

Ryan Zinke - Forced out due to his travel and potential conflicts of interests among other things.

Tom Price - Forced to resign over questionable use of military jets and private planes at government expense.

Ben Carson - Attempted to buy a $31,000 dining set for his office despite government rules that limited him to $5,000.

Brock Long - Under investigation for use to government cars to take him between his Washington Office and his home in NC.

Kellyanne Conway - Found to have violated the Hatch Act which forbids executive branch members of engaging in political activity.

 

[busybee01]

Zinke3

Such activity is considered political activity and cannot be engaged by certain members of the Executive branch under certain circumstances.

Here's just one example the OSC cited:

On December 6, 2017, Ms. Conway appeared in her official capacity on CNN’s New Day and discussed why voters should support Republican Roy Moore, and not support Democrat Doug Jones, in the Alabama special election for U.S. Senate.​

5 U.S. Code § 7324. Political activities on duty; prohibition

(a) An employee may not engage in political activity—

(1) while the employee is on duty;

(2) in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by an individual employed or holding office in the Government of the United States or any agency or instrumentality thereof;

(3) while wearing a uniform or official insignia identifying the office or position of the employee; or

(4) using any vehicle owned or leased by the Government of the United States or any agency or instrumentality thereof.
​

^ still doesn’t outlaw speaking against an opposing political party.

Are you idiots going to claim that DoD officials speaking out against terrorists are violating the Hatch Act too? After all, the Dems are pro-Islamic radicals now.

No, speaking out against terrorists is not "political activity" Speaking out against political opponents during elections is.

The President’s staff can speak out against political opponents all they want, whether they are Dem or Republicans.

Not when they are paid by the taxpayers. If she wants to engage in partisan politics then put her on the RNC payroll.

So it’s perfectly fine for Congress critters to engage in partisan politics while being paid by taxpayers, but not a Republican in the executive branch.

Yea, that makes a lot of sense.

The Hatch Act covers the executive branch only. Worth noting that the President and Vice-President are exempt. If Conway wants to play politics then go on the RNC payroll and get off the taxpayer dole.

 

[busybee01]

While I agree with you that their public sex games are darkly fun to watch, the ethics should concern everyone. As someone who works for an elected official, it concerns me.

A lib concerned about ethics?

YES We ALL have more ethics than the crooked swine you put into the WH

The barry admin...the most corrupt in U.S. history.

The Trump Administration is corrupt as numerous cabinet officials have been forced to resign because of unethical conduct.

Yeah?
And how many FBI agents have been shitcanned at this point for their nefarious actions regarding the FISA warrants and the Mewler report ?
Last time I checked there was around a dozen.

There is a problem of proof. That is crazy rants with no evidence to back it up.

 

[busybee01]

The Hatch Act only covers those who are working in the Executive branch of government, but it excludes the president, vice president and certain other officials, and she ain't one of them.

And, she can't take a partisan side while she is on duty, at work, or acting as a representative of the WH. Read the information posted in the link.

But, if you think about it, it's sort of like what the restrictions are that are placed on the military. If you are in uniform, you cannot attend a political rally for a certain candidate (would give the wrong impression that your service supports that candidate), as well as you are restricted in what kind of protests you can participate in, as well as what you are allowed to say publicly on social media.

“And certain other officials” doesn’t apply to her?

Are you purposely being obtuse, or are you really this stupid? No. If she was excluded from the Hatch Act, they wouldn't be saying that she has violated it.

Are “they” the Department of Justice? When was her trial for violating this “law”?

"They" are the Office of Special Counsel, led by Trump nominee Henry Kerner ("only the best people") and confirmed by a Republican Congress.

Well “they” may want to actually read what is allowed by the Hatch Act:

These federal and D.C. employees may:

• be candidates for public office in nonpartisan elections
• register and vote as they choose
• assist in voter registration drives
• express opinions about candidates and issues
• contribute money to political organizations
• attend political fundraising functions
• attend and be active at political rallies and meetings
• join and be an active member of a political party or club
• sign nominating petitions
• campaign for or against referendum questions, constitutional amendments, municipal ordinances
• campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections
• make campaign speeches for candidates in partisan elections
• distribute campaign literature in partisan elections
• hold office in political clubs or parties

Hatch Act of 1939 - Wikipedia

They are not allowed to use their position to engage in partisan politics. Conway used her office to engage in partisan political acts.

 

[busybee01]

Trump has spoke 4 words...

"Kellyanne is going nowhere"

End of story.

The Democrats thank Trump for giving them another talking point.

 

[bullwinkle]

And how many FBI agents have been shitcanned at this point for their nefarious actions regarding the FISA warrants and the Mewler report ?

shitcanned by the guy desperate to cover his portly ass.

Shitcanned by the FBI.

Well so far all I know that has been shitcanned by the FBI is Strock (sp?) and he was off the case the moment his Email to Page was known way back when.

FBI Departures:

1. James Comey, director (fired)
2. Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
3. Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
4. Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
5. James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
6. James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
7. Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
8. Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
9. James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
10. Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
11. Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
12. John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)

DOJ Departures:

1. Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
2. Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
3. David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
4. Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
5. Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
6. John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
7. Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
8. Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
9. Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
10. Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
11. Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
12. Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
13. Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
14. Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)

Strzok Joins List of 25 Top FBI, DOJ Officials Who Have Been Recently Fired, Demoted, or Resigned

Those fired were fired (shitcanned) by whom? The resigned left why? Demoted why? And What's your point? You say they were fired for nefarious activities related to the Mueller Report? This admin has fired Comey to stop anyone exposing its sub-rosa chicanery according to Trump as told to both Holt and Laparov. The rest are dominoed as a result of trying to make the Comey firing legit. You are placing the nefarious activities on the wrong party, my friend. Mueller, Yates and all the rest were trying to stop the nefarious actions of the man who would be King and his sycophants.