Farmer on NPR said he couldn't find an American who would pick fruit...

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    Jobs that don't pay enough to live on aren't worth having, so who cares; people will just turn to piracy and loot those ships, and the factories that use them, and of course with disposable income disappearing at rapid rates nobody will buy enough to keep them open anyway, so no, that scenario won't last long, either. the political and economic instability will shut it all down.
     
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    That would depend on the industry. It's the same debate that goes on with minimum wage increases.

    If we increased the federal minimum wage to $15.00 per hour, it wouldn't have much effect on fast food chains like McDonald's. That's because they sell thousands of burgers and drinks every day, plus the hundreds of french fries and deserts. So absorbing that increased wage is divided by the thousands and nobody would know the difference.

    Not the same for Tom's hardware store. Tom doesn't sell a thousand hammers a day or hundreds of screw drivers. He has to increase the cost of his products much more than Wendy's.

    So when we talk about agriculture and increased wages for Americans, I don't think it would be that noticeable because of the amount of crops they pick, sort or package.
     
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    Pretty much. Not much room for small businesses these days, as the big box stores and internet run them out quick. People need to just accept monopolies and duopolies and trusts are the natural end result of competition and learn some way to regulate them, as they're inevitable.
     
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    Raising the minimum wage may not be necessary if we get rid of all the employed illegal aliens wages will raise out of necessity.
     
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    Right now online buying is the largest threat to brick and mortar stores. It's had it's effect on long running chains like Sears, K-Mart, Radio Shack and yes, even Walmart. Target is even experiencing some problems.

    My sister does all the Christmas shopping for the family. She discovered online shopping just last year, and she couldn't stop talking about it. For the first time, she was anxious to get Christmas lists and get to work. LOL!
     
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    How are you going to pay tax to Uncle Sam unless you have a Social Security number? As to their trips, who can say, those Mexicans are tough, used to rough living. Maybe they sleep in the car, pull off the road and pitch a tent, bring food or shoot rabbit and squirrel with a bow and cook them. Bottom line, it should be a VERY profitable trip for them no matter what. A veritable FORTUNE compared to what they could have made in Mexico.
     
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    But all claim the EIC, apparently.

    In any case, almost none have even completed high school, which means, even for the native-born, they will be a net drain on the public treasury over the course of their lifetimes (and they will spend the rest of their lives here. There is nothing more permanent than a temporary guest worker).

    But hey, Syriusly saves a penny at the produce stand, and that's what counts. Who cares if the farmer uses illegals to drive down wages of his neighbors, then sticks his neighbors with the cost of educating their kids and paying for their medical care?
     
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    They get a fake S.S. number to present to their employer or an ITIN if independent. Fake ID cards, fake birth certificates......Supplying these things is a profitable business. As is moving illegals across the border. Not worth the effort to do regularly if you are here illegally. It's expensive and risky. Even if you are a "tough Mexican". Lol

    You're an idiot.
    You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
     
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    It's ok. The libtards have nearly succeeded in bringing about a race war. It won't be long now, and we'll send them all right back to Puerto Rico, then pull the plug.
     
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    Each state has their own AG wage requirements, much like how waiters/waitresses have a lower minimum wage then normal. A state can raise AG minimum wage and have no effect on any other industry. Farmers also have the H2A visa with no annual cap, so they could bring in all the workers they need, but there are requirements for it.
     

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