Farewell Sweden.....

[HereWeGoAgain]

Goodbye Sweden.......

And this is one of the saddest goodbyes of all...Sweden.

Europe falling like a house of cards....one country after another....to the Dark Age of Islam.

And the worst part is it's all intentional.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

They can't. They're cuckold Leftists. They won't stand up to awful Muslim treatment of women. They're weak and confused. It's much easier and PC for them to attack a Donald Trump. Cuckold Leftists have very little credibility.

It's because they're logic challenged. Never allow a lefty to count your money.

 

[Challenger]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

 

[Dschrute3]

Let's be honest, Sweden is full of Leftist Cuckold white people. It's not PC to acknowledge that, but it is the truth. Many in Western Europe and the US are beginning to see that it's their Leftist White Cuckolds who are doing so much damage to their nations.

You can't begin to fix things, until you understand what the problem is. If you don't get the Leftist White Cuckolds under control, your nation is likely doomed. It is what it is.

 

[Challenger]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

Another brainwashed lefty who keeps trying to prove that going from bad to worse is improvement.

 

[Challenger]

Yeah, right, whatever...The Good Country - Overall Rankings

"Sweden has topped a poll as the best ‒ or “goodest” ‒ country when it comes to serving the interests of its people while avoiding damaging impacts to other nations and the environment."

 

[xyz]

Nils Bildt, the "Swedish security expert" on Fox News, is actually an immigrant who has a criminal record in the USA:


Analysis | Who is Nils Bildt? Swedish ‘national security advisor’ interviewed by Fox News is a mystery to Swedes

 

[Lastamender]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

Wow, you are full of it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Sweden is a lot safer than the US.Sort out your own murder and rape problems before pointing the finger elsewhere.

 

[Challenger]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

Wow, you are full of it.

Prove it.

 

[Meane]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

 

[Challenger]

It's the law in Iran that women should cover their hair, it seems you are advocating that Swedish politicians and diplomats should break the laws of the country they are trying to do business with? Anyone in business (including Donald Trump) will tell you that sometimes you have to do what's necessary to finalise a deal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "feminism".

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

 

[Meane]

If they stood on principle they would have sent surrogates. Instead they're hypocrites.

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

 

[Challenger]

What principle? Don't wear headscarves is now a principle?

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

See my note on "all revolutions..." above. The Shah was no better, hence the revolution in the first place.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Not acquiescing to the forced treatment of being considered cattle is principle.

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

See my note on "all revolutions..." above. The Shah was no better, hence the revolution in the first place.

So you think going from bad to worse is improvement?

 

[Challenger]

Yeah, right, whatever...

In Europe and the United States there is a pervasive stereotype about women in Iran and the Islamic World in general. They are perceived as helpless victims of a patriarchal system that oppresses and enslaves them. This image is reinforced through superficial observations of female dress, and outdated stories of female treatment in Islamic nations.[116]:10 Such distorted perspective was criticized by Ayatollah Khomeini, who argued:

People say that for instance in Islam women have to go inside the house and lock themselves in. This is a false accusation. In the early years of Islam women were in the army, they even went to battlefields. Islam is no opposed to universities. It opposes corruption in the universities; it opposes backwardness in the universities; it opposes colonial universities. Islam has nothing against universities. Islam empowers women. It puts them next to men. They are equals.

— Ruhollah Khomeini[108]:37
No place in the Islamic World today has been more stigmatized for its alleged poor treatment of women than Iran. However, stereotypes of Iranian women promulgated in the West are hopelessly out of date. They ignore the extraordinary efforts that women have made on their own behalf to improve their lives. These efforts range from simple choices in clothing to more dramatic life choices in family composition, education, and career.[116]:149–150 According to William O. Beeman:

The most surprising development for me was the clear impression that, contrary to American belief, women in the Islamic Republic were better off in many respects than they were under the Pahlavi regime. Moreover, their condition has continued to improve. Women have always had a strong role in Iranian life. Their prominent and often decisive participation in public political movements has been especially noteworthy. Brave and often ruthlessly pragmatic, women have been more than willing to take to the streets in a good public cause throughout modern Iranian history. The Islamic Republic has made a special point of emphasizing women's equality in education, employment, and politics as a matter of national pride. Although women have served in the Iranian legislature and as government ministers since the 1950s, there are more women in the current parliament than ever served under the Pahlavi regime. Iranian women may actually be in the vanguard in the Islamic World. As their progress becomes better known, they are sure to inspire others to pursue their dreams. The New Islamic Woman is a reality, and will undoubtedly be a force to reckon with in the future.

— William O. Beeman (2005)[116]:151–152
Distorted perceptions about foreign women are also common inside Iran itself, where American and Western women are frequently seen as commodified objects of male desire. Although both Iranian and Western views are inaccurate, these images that frequently give the two peoples one of the most potent views of the other.[116]:10

Women in Iran - Wikipedia

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

See my note on "all revolutions..." above. The Shah was no better, hence the revolution in the first place.

So you think going from bad to worse is improvement?

Depends on who you ask; some Iranians see it that way, others think the revolution was an improvment on the Shah's regime. If the USA had left things alone in 1953, at least the Iranian people would have decided their own future by themselves.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

See my note on "all revolutions..." above. The Shah was no better, hence the revolution in the first place.

So you think going from bad to worse is improvement?

Depends on who you ask; some Iranians see it that way, others think the revolution was an improvment on the Shah's regime. If the USA had left things alone in 1953, at least the Iranian people would have decided their own future by themselves.

Too bad there was this pesky thing called the Cold War that Iran apologists conveniently overlook with their ignorant bias.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You're quoting Ayatollah Khomeini. He never was.. Well considerate about human rights. He's a liar. Not that there wouldn't be some truth in the matter.

No, I'm citing the wikipedia article, "Women in Iran" which also cites a Professor of Anthropology. Ayatollah Khomeini is much misunderstood in the West, especially by Americans who still see him as the "demonic mullah" who kept Americans hostage. All revolutions have never been particularly considerate about "human rights" which are, after all, a Western invention.

I see him as the demon who got some 30,000 people hanged in 1988. Political prisoners. Children caught on the street sharing political fliers. Arrested, forgot to release, hanged ..well, since the rest of them are, the prisons are overcrowded.

See my note on "all revolutions..." above. The Shah was no better, hence the revolution in the first place.

So you think going from bad to worse is improvement?

Depends on who you ask; some Iranians see it that way, others think the revolution was an improvment on the Shah's regime. If the USA had left things alone in 1953, at least the Iranian people would have decided their own future by themselves.

And the rest of the world has to deal with how much things got worse for them as a result.
Going from bad to worse is not improvement.