Famous Liberals in our history

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    1. Jesus Christ
    2. George Washington
    3. Abe Lincoln
    4. Gandhi
    5. Martin Luther King
    6. Ben Franklin
    7. FDR
    8. Thomas Jefferson
    9. JFK
    10. James Madison

    And what exactly have the conservatives done for us?
     
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    First off, start with a common definition of "conservative" that everyone can agree upon for the purposes of this thread. 'Cuz depending upon what definition is being used, at least 3 or 4 people on your list are exactly that. It's only when you shift definitions in each instance to fit the historical figure can your list be considered all liberal.

    So start with a definition. And then we'll discuss.
     
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    Lets start here
     
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    George Washington
    Abraham Lincoln
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    All began conservative and moved left of center.
     
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    Nice platitudes. But not the definition we are looking for. According to JFK's definition everyone would consider themselves liberal to one degree or another. Yes, even George Bush and Ronald Reagan.

    So its a meaningless definition.

    Give us the definition that YOU are using. In YOUR words. a definition of conservative. Not liberal. And not some historical figure's definition.
     
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    1. Out-and-out blasphemy.
    2. True.
    3. False...He was a reactionary.
    4. True.
    5. Debatable.
    6. True.
    7. Total lie...He was an authoritarian who stole the New Deal, lock, stock and barrel, from avowed socialist Eugene Debs.
    8. True.
    9. False....He was a progressive leftist.
    10. True.

    There's a vast difference between classical liberals, like the framers, and the modern progressive fake "liberals".

    Hiding behind Christ to support your politics, in any case, is so far beneath contempt for words to describe.
     
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    your definition of conservative

    "Racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-choice fascists....They hate everyone who's not a rich white guy."
     
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    If you are into Jesus, he's actually a conservative.

    He gets all pissed off because people are not following God's rules and goes apeshit in the temple because they are money changing in it and not following the correct procedures.

    The Pharases do a nice impersonation of modern liberals by using the courts to have him arrested, tried and executed.
     
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    Jesus was a Liberal
    Webster's dictionary defines a Liberal as one who is open minded, not
    strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional or established forms or
    ways. Jesus was a pluralist Liberal who taught that one need not
    conform to strict and orthodox views of God, religion, and life. He
    rejected greed, violence, the glorification of power, the amassing of
    wealth without social balance, and the personal judging of others, their
    lifestyles and beliefs.

    Over and over again, He taught us to believe in and live a spiritual and
    ethical life based in our essential, inherent goodness. What Jesus
    promoted was succinct set of spiritual principals and a way of life
    based upon the of love, compassion, tolerance, and a strong belief in
    the importance in giving and of generosity to those in need.

    http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/
     

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