FAKE NEWS!!

[deannalw]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

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I'd suggest you read my post above, the one with the polar bear; but you've proved too oftern you're too dumb to write a rebuttal or anything of substance.

My gosh you are such a hypocrite Obama only appeared with ORiley, then he trashed fox news. Hillary was given the debate questions in advance. Silence from you. CNN constantly lied about Trump on the campaign and he bans them. But your other liberal leaning news groups are welcome. The tables have turned and liberals are losing their grip on owning the media.

There are two (that means "2") reasons why you claim the MSM is liberal.

1. It's what you've been told to believe
2. It's the truth, and that is not what you want to hear.

It looks like you're agreeing MSM is liberal with #2 HAHA!

 

[sealybobo]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wag the Dog?

 

[Correll]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

 

[sealybobo]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

My republican friend doesn't know what to think. He says all his liberal friends are happy Trump did what he did and all his conservative pals are against what Trump did.

 

[sealybobo]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

 

[Correll]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

 

[sealybobo]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

Speaking about Fake News Headlines, you've offered one of your own. NO ONE claimed the act was a Declaration of War.

Bombing a sovereign nation state is an ACT OF WAR and if Assad wants to Declare War on the US, it will be an act of suicide - Jim Jones Style, sans the kool-aid. Let's hope Trump had the common sense to speak the truth to his counterpoint from from China, and not his usual Brinkmanship so that with China we can try to bring sanity to the N. Korean megalomaniac.

BTW, I just heard Rand Paul call for the Congress to Declare War - that dude is insane.

 

[Correll]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

 

[Correll]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

Speaking out Fake News Headlines, you've offered one of your own. NO ONE claimed the act was a Declaration of War. Bombing a sovereign nation state is an ACT OF WAR and if Assad wants to Declare War on the US, it will be an act of suicide - Jim Jones Style, sans the kool-aid.

From Tim Kaine.

"But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress"

 

[sealybobo]

Well, FAUX News has done it again:

Swedes puzzle over Fox News' Swedish 'security advisor'

Is it any wonder that Fox News, Limbaugh, and AM Radio RW talking heads are anti MSM, and accuse the MSM of be broadcasting propaganda? It's what the RW does, it accuses the MSM of mendacity and broadcasting Fake News, something the above have been doing for decades.

As the favorite source of the only news they hope to hear, the hoi polloi conservatives on the USMB echo the same crap spewed by trump and Faux News taking heads, employed or paid expert quests.

Trump and many Republican Pols only appear on Fox News, where the questions are pre-approved softballs It is imperative that the Free Press remain free, and Fox News, Limbaugh and others of this set be vetted with extreme vigor.

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

Speaking about Fake News Headlines, you've offered one of your own. NO ONE claimed the act was a Declaration of War.

Bombing a sovereign nation state is an ACT OF WAR and if Assad wants to Declare War on the US, it will be an act of suicide - Jim Jones Style, sans the kool-aid. Let's hope Trump had the common sense to speak the truth to his counterpoint from from China, and not his usual Brinkmanship so that with China we can try to bring sanity to the N. Korean megalomaniac.

BTW, I just heard Rand Paul call for the Congress to Declare War - that dude is insane.

Oh wow that changes NOTHING

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2. Justin Amash Retweeted
   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 30 Aug 2013
   The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!
   
   

 

[sealybobo]

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry but Obama followed the rules. He went to Congress after Assad killed 1500 and all the republicans said no. Now Assad just killed 85 people and Trump didn't go to Congress. YOU are not being a typical Trump supporter. Now is when you are supposed to admit that Trumps a sellout just like Obama was. He's letting you down like Obama let us down. Don't worry, it won't be the last time he lets you down. And he's not making me happy either so maybe next time you and me vote Democratic.

 

[Correll]

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry but Obama followed the rules. He went to Congress after Assad killed 1500 and all the republicans said no. Now Assad just killed 85 people and Trump didn't go to Congress. YOU are not being a typical Trump supporter. Now is when you are supposed to admit that Trumps a sellout just like Obama was. He's letting you down like Obama let us down. Don't worry, it won't be the last time he lets you down. And he's not making me happy either so maybe next time you and me vote Democratic.

I disagree with the action, and I've admitted that I disagree with the WAY he committed the action.

NOt sure what more you want.

 

[sealybobo]

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry but Obama followed the rules. He went to Congress after Assad killed 1500 and all the republicans said no. Now Assad just killed 85 people and Trump didn't go to Congress. YOU are not being a typical Trump supporter. Now is when you are supposed to admit that Trumps a sellout just like Obama was. He's letting you down like Obama let us down. Don't worry, it won't be the last time he lets you down. And he's not making me happy either so maybe next time you and me vote Democratic.

I disagree with the action, and I've admitted that I disagree with the WAY he committed the action.

NOt sure what more you want.

Hey it's still too early to say I wouldn't vote for him in 2020. Lets see how the economy does. But as far as world affairs, I think you are starting to see Republicans who've been armchair qb'ing Obama for 8 years have been full of shit. For starters, Bush started ISIS in Iraq. It wasn't Obama for pulling troops out. Did that play a part in helping ISIS take territory, sure. But what were Republicans going to do put more boots on the ground? Ok, then put more troops on the ground.

What I never realized is how long Trump's been running for President. I thought he only decided a couple years ago but he's been planning this move for years. And he's been saying a lot of shit about Bush, Obama and Hillary. Well now you get to show us how it's done Trump. But instead what he will do is cry that he inherited a mess. You would think he knew what he was getting himself into, right? But now he has to actually deliver. Maybe that's part of his process. To cry at first so people feel sorry for him and then later forget he bragged that he knew more than the generals and instead when he doesn't blow up the planet we are just happy the little cry baby got anything done.

And he didn't hardly kill anyone with those air strikes. So I don't know how scared Assad is or North Korea. Did Trump just get us into trouble? What's he going to do the next time a couple kids get poisoned?

 

[Correll]

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry but Obama followed the rules. He went to Congress after Assad killed 1500 and all the republicans said no. Now Assad just killed 85 people and Trump didn't go to Congress. YOU are not being a typical Trump supporter. Now is when you are supposed to admit that Trumps a sellout just like Obama was. He's letting you down like Obama let us down. Don't worry, it won't be the last time he lets you down. And he's not making me happy either so maybe next time you and me vote Democratic.

I disagree with the action, and I've admitted that I disagree with the WAY he committed the action.

NOt sure what more you want.

Hey it's still too early to say I wouldn't vote for him in 2020. Lets see how the economy does. But as far as world affairs, I think you are starting to see Republicans who've been armchair qb'ing Obama for 8 years have been full of shit. For starters, Bush started ISIS in Iraq. It wasn't Obama for pulling troops out. Did that play a part in helping ISIS take territory, sure. But what were Republicans going to do put more boots on the ground? Ok, then put more troops on the ground.

What I never realized is how long Trump's been running for President. I thought he only decided a couple years ago but he's been planning this move for years. And he's been saying a lot of shit about Bush, Obama and Hillary. Well now you get to show us how it's done Trump. But instead what he will do is cry that he inherited a mess. You would think he knew what he was getting himself into, right? But now he has to actually deliver. Maybe that's part of his process. To cry at first so people feel sorry for him and then later forget he bragged that he knew more than the generals and instead when he doesn't blow up the planet we are just happy the little cry baby got anything done.

And he didn't hardly kill anyone with those air strikes. So I don't know how scared Assad is or North Korea. Did Trump just get us into trouble? What's he going to do the next time a couple kids get poisoned?

The ineffectiveness of the strikes is a good thing, imo.

I didn't want any strike, BUT if politics forces a strike, the more restrained the better.

Hopefully there won't BE a next time, (gas attack) and Assad and PUtin can crush ISIS, and we can, before long, drop sanctions on Russia and give peace a chance.

 

[sealybobo]

How about Rand Paul? Will you listen to him? He says what Trump did was unconstitutional. Seems you are willing to overlook that now.

Rand Paul might be sincere.

But as I said, this has been the norm for a long time and in not going to change anytime soon.

I'm sorry but Obama followed the rules. He went to Congress after Assad killed 1500 and all the republicans said no. Now Assad just killed 85 people and Trump didn't go to Congress. YOU are not being a typical Trump supporter. Now is when you are supposed to admit that Trumps a sellout just like Obama was. He's letting you down like Obama let us down. Don't worry, it won't be the last time he lets you down. And he's not making me happy either so maybe next time you and me vote Democratic.

I disagree with the action, and I've admitted that I disagree with the WAY he committed the action.

NOt sure what more you want.

Hey it's still too early to say I wouldn't vote for him in 2020. Lets see how the economy does. But as far as world affairs, I think you are starting to see Republicans who've been armchair qb'ing Obama for 8 years have been full of shit. For starters, Bush started ISIS in Iraq. It wasn't Obama for pulling troops out. Did that play a part in helping ISIS take territory, sure. But what were Republicans going to do put more boots on the ground? Ok, then put more troops on the ground.

What I never realized is how long Trump's been running for President. I thought he only decided a couple years ago but he's been planning this move for years. And he's been saying a lot of shit about Bush, Obama and Hillary. Well now you get to show us how it's done Trump. But instead what he will do is cry that he inherited a mess. You would think he knew what he was getting himself into, right? But now he has to actually deliver. Maybe that's part of his process. To cry at first so people feel sorry for him and then later forget he bragged that he knew more than the generals and instead when he doesn't blow up the planet we are just happy the little cry baby got anything done.

And he didn't hardly kill anyone with those air strikes. So I don't know how scared Assad is or North Korea. Did Trump just get us into trouble? What's he going to do the next time a couple kids get poisoned?

The ineffectiveness of the strikes is a good thing, imo.

I didn't want any strike, BUT if politics forces a strike, the more restrained the better.

Hopefully there won't BE a next time, (gas attack) and Assad and PUtin can crush ISIS, and we can, before long, drop sanctions on Russia and give peace a chance.

Sure we all hope.

The most important thing to me are wages and the real unemployment number. What is it?

 

[Wry Catcher]

According to the mainstream media – that has been wrong about almost everything for a solid 18 months in a row – the Syrian government allegedly bombed its own people with a nerve agent.


The reason the Assad government would bomb its own people with a nerve agent right now is obvious. Syrian President Assad – who has been fighting for his life for several years, and is only lately feeling safer – suddenly decided to commit suicide-by-Trump. Because the best way to make that happen is to commit a war crime against your own people in exactly the way that would force President Trump to respond or else suffer humiliation at the hands of the mainstream media.


And how about those pictures coming in about the tragedy. Lots of visual imagery. Dead babies. It is almost as if someone designed this “tragedy” to be camera-ready for President Trump’s consumption. It pushed every one of his buttons. Hard. And right when things in Syria were heading in a positive direction.

• Interesting timing.
• Super-powerful visual persuasion designed for Trump in particular.
• Suspiciously well-documented event for a place with no real press.
• No motive for Assad to use gas to kill a few dozen people at the cost of his entire regime. It wouldn’t be a popular move with Putin either.
• The type of attack no U.S. president can ignore and come away intact.
• A setup that looks suspiciously similar to the false WMD stories that sparked the Iraq war.

I’m going to call bullshit on the gas attack. It’s too “on-the-nose,” as Hollywood script-writers sometimes say, meaning a little too perfect to be natural. This has the look of a manufactured event.


My guess is that President Trump knows this smells fishy, but he has to talk tough anyway. However, keep in mind that he has made a brand out of not discussing military options. He likes to keep people guessing. He reminded us of that again yesterday, in case we forgot.


So how does a Master Persuader respond to a fake war crime?

He does it with a fake response, if he’s smart.

Watch now as the world tries to guess where Trump is moving military assets, and what he might do to respond. The longer he drags things out, the less power the story will have on the public. We’ll be wondering for weeks when those bombs will start hitting Damascus, and Trump will continue to remind us that he doesn’t talk about military options.


Then he waits for something bad to happen to Assad’s family, or his generals, in the normal course of chaos over there. When that happens on its own, the media will wonder if it was Trump sending a strong message to Assad in a measured way. Confirmation bias will do the rest.

There is also a non-zero chance that Putin just asked Assad to frame one of his less-effective Syrian generals for going rogue with chemical weapons, and executing him just to calm things down.

I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.

Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

Speaking out Fake News Headlines, you've offered one of your own. NO ONE claimed the act was a Declaration of War. Bombing a sovereign nation state is an ACT OF WAR and if Assad wants to Declare War on the US, it will be an act of suicide - Jim Jones Style, sans the kool-aid.

From Tim Kaine.

"But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress"

See the War Powers Act, here:

war powers act definition - Google Search

 

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Wow. Scott Adams said the same thing.

“Assad is a brutal dictator who must be held accountable for his actions,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary Clinton’s running mate in the 2016 election. “But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress. I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the President, but his failure to seek Congressional approval is unlawful.”

I support more restraint on military action, AND more accountability on the executive branch when it comes to acts of war.

BUT, there is not going to be any such move anytime soon.

For a dem to pretend that this is a declaration of war, is just partisan posturing.

Speaking out Fake News Headlines, you've offered one of your own. NO ONE claimed the act was a Declaration of War. Bombing a sovereign nation state is an ACT OF WAR and if Assad wants to Declare War on the US, it will be an act of suicide - Jim Jones Style, sans the kool-aid.

From Tim Kaine.

"But President Trump has launched a military strike against Syria without a vote of Congress. The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress"

See the War Powers Act, here:

war powers act definition - Google Search

I posted that because you said that "no one claimed the act was a declaration of war".