Expected Change

[Luddly Neddite]

What do you expect to be the biggest change, the biggest difference, and most socially and economically beneficial improvement from January 2017 to January 2021? This is NOT a political party question. This question concerns the actions of the new president and members of Congress, regardless of who wins in November 2016.

The biggest change will be in the pictures on the front on newspapers.

What will change? Not much. Maybe a Republican will try and invade Iran, or maybe a Democrat will try and get some policy through that the Republicans don't like, or maybe nothing at all.

Not much has changed with Obama.

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

 

[Freewill]

That has been promised for quite some time. But I really don't see it happening. People who survived child birth always lived a long life. We make a big deal out of someone making it to 100 years old but it happens all the time and as medical science improves those living longer increases, thus it looks as if people are living longer. Problem is the body still wears out. What do we do with these people who are wore out at 100 but live to be 150? I think we need to work on quality, first, then quantity. That is the problem, reversing the bodies already programmed aging rate.

right now age 114 seems to be the stickler

Remember Dolly the cloned sheep? The clone aged at the same time as Dolly. In other words it is like the DNA or genes determine a person's age.

But as I said, just obtaining longevity isn't the problem, the problem is what do we do with people when they wear out.

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yes twice as many people live a good life past 100

however there has not much difference living past 114

with nano tec that will change

Could be but rolling out a 114 year old in a wheel chair isn't a "good life" in my opinion.

maybe as we advance the wheel chair wont be necessary

but who are we to judge what anothers "good life" is

Mine was purely a subjective observation. I don't want to be spoon fed, pushed in a WC nor have someone else "cleam" me. Maybe when I get to that point I will change my mind.

 

[jon_berzerk]

right now age 114 seems to be the stickler

Remember Dolly the cloned sheep? The clone aged at the same time as Dolly. In other words it is like the DNA or genes determine a person's age.

But as I said, just obtaining longevity isn't the problem, the problem is what do we do with people when they wear out.

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yes twice as many people live a good life past 100

however there has not much difference living past 114

with nano tec that will change

Could be but rolling out a 114 year old in a wheel chair isn't a "good life" in my opinion.

maybe as we advance the wheel chair wont be necessary

but who are we to judge what anothers "good life" is

Mine was purely a subjective observation. I don't want to be spoon fed, pushed in a WC nor have someone else "cleam" me. Maybe when I get to that point I will change my mind.

plenty of folks are just happy to be alive

 

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[Freewill]

Remember Dolly the cloned sheep? The clone aged at the same time as Dolly. In other words it is like the DNA or genes determine a person's age.

But as I said, just obtaining longevity isn't the problem, the problem is what do we do with people when they wear out.

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yes twice as many people live a good life past 100

however there has not much difference living past 114

with nano tec that will change

Could be but rolling out a 114 year old in a wheel chair isn't a "good life" in my opinion.

maybe as we advance the wheel chair wont be necessary

but who are we to judge what anothers "good life" is

Mine was purely a subjective observation. I don't want to be spoon fed, pushed in a WC nor have someone else "cleam" me. Maybe when I get to that point I will change my mind.

plenty of folks are just happy to be alive

Strange that so many fear death. I guess the trick here is defining "alive." Me thinks that just not dying is not living. Maybe I have been spending too much time in an assisted living home.

 

[Sonny Clark]

What do you expect to be the biggest change, the biggest difference, and most socially and economically beneficial improvement from January 2017 to January 2021? This is NOT a political party question. This question concerns the actions of the new president and members of Congress, regardless of who wins in November 2016.

The biggest change will be in the pictures on the front on newspapers.

What will change? Not much. Maybe a Republican will try and invade Iran, or maybe a Democrat will try and get some policy through that the Republicans don't like, or maybe nothing at all.

Not much has changed with Obama.

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What do you expect to be the biggest change, the biggest difference, and most socially and economically beneficial improvement from January 2017 to January 2021? This is NOT a political party question. This question concerns the actions of the new president and members of Congress, regardless of who wins in November 2016.

The biggest change will be in the pictures on the front on newspapers.

What will change? Not much. Maybe a Republican will try and invade Iran, or maybe a Democrat will try and get some policy through that the Republicans don't like, or maybe nothing at all.

Not much has changed with Obama.

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Sonny Clark

Many of those are untrue, some are outright lies, some existed long before Obama was even born ... but I'm looking forward to your links to prove what you're saying.

 

[Geaux4it]

Looks like old school weekend again around here, Aren't vacations nice?

I suspect we'll see election reform in proof of citizenship requirements to run for POTUS

-Geaux

 

[Sonny Clark]

The biggest change will be in the pictures on the front on newspapers.

What will change? Not much. Maybe a Republican will try and invade Iran, or maybe a Democrat will try and get some policy through that the Republicans don't like, or maybe nothing at all.

Not much has changed with Obama.

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Sonny Clark

Many of those are untrue, some are outright lies, some existed long before Obama was even born ... but I'm looking forward to your links to prove what you're saying.

FYI - I listed NO lies, period. Secondly, I never said that Obama was responsible for them. Yes, many of them can be traced back to the 50s. The intent of the list was to show that Obama hasn't done anything to help us. He has made no effort to correct past wrongs. Basically, he's accomplished nothing to ease the pain felt by millions of Americans. In eight years, we're no better off than before he took office. Check the list and tell me which ones he's addressed and made an honest effort to correct. Again, there are NO lies in the list. If you believe there are lies in the list, please point them out and I will address them. Thanks.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What do you expect to be the biggest change, the biggest difference, and most socially and economically beneficial improvement from January 2017 to January 2021? This is NOT a political party question. This question concerns the actions of the new president and members of Congress, regardless of who wins in November 2016.

The biggest change will be in the pictures on the front on newspapers.

What will change? Not much. Maybe a Republican will try and invade Iran, or maybe a Democrat will try and get some policy through that the Republicans don't like, or maybe nothing at all.

Not much has changed with Obama.

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

More being what? For 8 years he didn't do much. He didn't have the economy to do much and yes he had the Republicans against him all the way, but that seems to be normal nowadays, partisan politics gone crazy.

Also, with any president the legacy can't be seen until years after anyway. We'll have to wait to see the impact of Obama on the US. It won't be that strong. Bush had a bigger impact, mostly negative though and a lot more short term, except for fracking which might end up being the worst decision yet.

But he's only the president. He can't have that much impact. People expect so much from a president, they're strong in foreign affairs and weak at home.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Some of these are actually quite funny.

(8) unaffordable healthcare.

The US spends more than anyone else by a long way. This isn't because of Obama, or Bush, or any single president. However it's due to the privatisation of healthcare. The UK spends half what the US spends. Sure, hospitals aren't as good, but they're better in a cost wise assessment. If the UK spent double, hospitals would be far better than US hospitals and lacking the corruption that eats up about half of all insurance money people spend.

Obamacare wasn't like by people who seem to like having expensive healthcare with major corruption. Obamacare isn't great. But it's a step towards a better system.

(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmer and big oil.

So what's changed? During Bush's reign this happened, during Clinton's reign this happened, but only now do you have a problem.

(19) Open borders

Anything changed?


Ie, a lot of this is a problem with the USA and US govt. Obama hasn't changed many things. To be honest it's not his job, it's congress' job.

 

[Sonny Clark]

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Some of these are actually quite funny.

(8) unaffordable healthcare.

The US spends more than anyone else by a long way. This isn't because of Obama, or Bush, or any single president. However it's due to the privatisation of healthcare. The UK spends half what the US spends. Sure, hospitals aren't as good, but they're better in a cost wise assessment. If the UK spent double, hospitals would be far better than US hospitals and lacking the corruption that eats up about half of all insurance money people spend.

Obamacare wasn't like by people who seem to like having expensive healthcare with major corruption. Obamacare isn't great. But it's a step towards a better system.

(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmer and big oil.

So what's changed? During Bush's reign this happened, during Clinton's reign this happened, but only now do you have a problem.

(19) Open borders

Anything changed?


Ie, a lot of this is a problem with the USA and US govt. Obama hasn't changed many things. To be honest it's not his job, it's congress' job.

The list covers 60 plus years. I said nothing about Bush, either of them. The list indicates the problems, and what Obama hasn't addressed and corrected. Also, I said nothing about Clinton.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Some of these are actually quite funny.

(8) unaffordable healthcare.

The US spends more than anyone else by a long way. This isn't because of Obama, or Bush, or any single president. However it's due to the privatisation of healthcare. The UK spends half what the US spends. Sure, hospitals aren't as good, but they're better in a cost wise assessment. If the UK spent double, hospitals would be far better than US hospitals and lacking the corruption that eats up about half of all insurance money people spend.

Obamacare wasn't like by people who seem to like having expensive healthcare with major corruption. Obamacare isn't great. But it's a step towards a better system.

(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmer and big oil.

So what's changed? During Bush's reign this happened, during Clinton's reign this happened, but only now do you have a problem.

(19) Open borders

Anything changed?


Ie, a lot of this is a problem with the USA and US govt. Obama hasn't changed many things. To be honest it's not his job, it's congress' job.

The list covers 60 plus years. I said nothing about Bush, either of them. The list indicates the problems, and what Obama hasn't addressed and corrected. Also, I said nothing about Clinton.

True, but then Obama didn't address them, Bush didn't, Clinton didn't, Bush snr didn't, Reagan didn't, nor did any Congress in between.

Yes, a big problem in the US when govt has been bought.

And also a big problem with the partisan nonsense that you see on here and in DC and everywhere else around the country.

 

[Derideo_Te]

In spite of Repub obstruction and their untiring attack on the US, President Obama has accomplished enormous things. If it had been a Republican administration, we would now be deep in a true depression and the world would be in total upheaval.

i don't know about that, depends who was in really. Had wars been allowed to carry on much longer it would have caused massive financial constraints on the country. However most likely every president would have carried out the withdrawal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama kept things steady. Did what had to be done. Perhaps a Republican would have done that.

As for other things Obama has accomplished, aside from Obamacare, what else of note is there?

Start here and remember, he did all this and more, in spite of Repub obstruction. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repubs had been working for their own country.

He s Done a LOT 308 Accomplishments by President Obama so far With Citations The PCTC Blog

5 Obama Successes Republicans Pretend Never Happened

President Obama s Accomplishments 3CHICSPOLITICO

And meanwhile, back at the ranch:

(1) Astronomical and rising national debt
(2) Less home ownership
(3) 50% of our children living at or below the poverty line
(4) A wider gap between the rich and the poor
(5) Most jobs are low wage, part-time, or temporary
(6) Our infrastructure in bad need of repair and upgrading
(7) The rising cost of higher education
(8) Unaffordable health care
(9) Rising cost of living ( rent, utilities, food, health care )
(10) Cities going bankrupt
(11) Troubled pension funds
(12) Increasing ratio between real wages and the cost of living
(13) The injustices in our judicial system
(14) The largest prison population in the world
(15) The worst health care per dollar spent than any country in the world
(16) Obvious government corruption
(17) Our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies
(18) Illegal immigration issues
(19) Open borders
(20) The failed war on illegal drugs
(21) The ill treatment of our Vets
(22) Taxation without fair, equal, and just representation
(23) Eminent domain injustices
(24) Less spendable income in the pockets of consumers
(25) 47 million receiving food stamps
(26) The millions receiving some form of government assistance
(27) Wasteful foreign aid
(28) Bribes paid to North Korea and Iran
(29) Deteriorating relationships with our foreign allies
(30) No-bid government contracts ( Halliburton, GE )
(31) Subsidies paid to rich farmers and big oil
(32) Wasteful military spending
(33) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Sonny Clark

Many of those are untrue, some are outright lies, some existed long before Obama was even born ... but I'm looking forward to your links to prove what you're saying.

FYI - I listed NO lies, period. Secondly, I never said that Obama was responsible for them. Yes, many of them can be traced back to the 50s. The intent of the list was to show that Obama hasn't done anything to help us. He has made no effort to correct past wrongs. Basically, he's accomplished nothing to ease the pain felt by millions of Americans. In eight years, we're no better off than before he took office. Check the list and tell me which ones he's addressed and made an honest effort to correct. Again, there are NO lies in the list. If you believe there are lies in the list, please point them out and I will address them. Thanks.

Millions are now better off because they can no longer be denied healthcare.

The ACA has contributed to a significant drop in abortion rates to the lowest level since RvW was passed.

Abortion Rates Dropped Sharply. What Caused It ThinkProgress

How is that not "easing the pain felt by millions of Americans"?

So yes, that alone is a significant accomplishment of Obama's.

Then there are the 3 million jobs he saved after the Republicans crashed the economy in 2008.

Some of the items on your list Obama has tried to correct and he has been virulently obstructed by the extremist rightwingers. Immigration reform has been on his agenda and he managed to get it passed in the Senate but it was obstructed, for no good reason, in the House. Then he tried to improve the situation via an EO and that too was blocked by the GOP.

So to blame Obama for things that were actively prevented by the rabid right is disingenuous IMO.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yes twice as many people live a good life past 100

however there has not much difference living past 114

with nano tec that will change

Could be but rolling out a 114 year old in a wheel chair isn't a "good life" in my opinion.

maybe as we advance the wheel chair wont be necessary

but who are we to judge what anothers "good life" is

Mine was purely a subjective observation. I don't want to be spoon fed, pushed in a WC nor have someone else "cleam" me. Maybe when I get to that point I will change my mind.

plenty of folks are just happy to be alive

Strange that so many fear death. I guess the trick here is defining "alive." Me thinks that just not dying is not living. Maybe I have been spending too much time in an assisted living home.

but that is your opinion

others may differ

i have several quad friends that would disagree

 

[Freewill]

Could be but rolling out a 114 year old in a wheel chair isn't a "good life" in my opinion.

maybe as we advance the wheel chair wont be necessary

but who are we to judge what anothers "good life" is

Mine was purely a subjective observation. I don't want to be spoon fed, pushed in a WC nor have someone else "cleam" me. Maybe when I get to that point I will change my mind.

plenty of folks are just happy to be alive

Strange that so many fear death. I guess the trick here is defining "alive." Me thinks that just not dying is not living. Maybe I have been spending too much time in an assisted living home.

but that is your opinion

others may differ

i have several quad friends that would disagree

I certainly didn't say that everyone agrees with me I actually said the opposite. And of course, mostly what is put on this board is opinion.