expect Rams to be back in LA next year.

This whole Carson stadium project is nothing but BS! It's nothing more than an attempt to scare San Diego and Oakland into building new stadiums in order to keep their NFL teams. I don't think anyone really believes this stadium in Carson has any chance at being built. The Kroenke stadium in Inglewood is a completely different story.

Carson City Council may be set to approve NFL stadium sight unseen - LA Times
 
Shocker.
The report noted the proposal “lacks any detailed site plans,” making predictions difficult.

http://kfwbam.com/…/report-2-teams-needed-to-make-californ…/

Dear BBTLAR, the Carson city will vote today on a measure similar to what Ingelwood did earlier this year. It is expected of the mayor and city council to bypass a public vote and green-light the Carson Stadium project. This undoubtedly will excite LTRISTL page and BBTLARAIDERS fans. So instead asking for billboard money, proud of our Blues and Cardinals and non Rams related football articles, LTRISTL will be in a complete football frenzy today over Carson. This will also betrue at BBTLARAIDERS were most jails in California will be on lockdown today, and most parole offices will work overtime, and oh yeah, also if you hear something beeping today it's most likely another out-of-range-violation ankle bracelet! So be safe LA, stay off the streets especially my fellow BBTLAR after 10:00pm, we all know how BBTLARaiders "frenzy". Remember, we are way ahead in Ingelwood! our owner, owns his land, all financials are done, unions are on board, permits and final preparations are on schedule to start in December, full speed ahead! So let them have their 15 hours of fame today. Come tomorrow, we will go back to lame articles such as crashing planes in stadiums and billboards at LTRISTL and BBTLARAIDERS threatening to "black out" our events and kicking our ass, you know the usual day to day stuff! Enjoy the frenzy.
LTRISTL, please don't share/copy-paste my BBTLAR post, write your own articles.
 
Hopefully Grubman pissed off Kepart and he's even more driven to get the deal done in Oakland!

http://www.contracostatimes.com/…/unnecessary-roughness-oak…

Ryan, I don't know how you think that somehow this is a positive for StL. Kroenke presented his own plan. The Rams are finished in St. Louis.:beer:

Kephart said on Roggin a few weeks ago he would have a financing plan in place by April 25. So lets see it

yes we will see so indeed.
 
The chances of the Raiders and Chargers joining together and having a stadium in Carson is about the same as you watching me levitate out of here right now,"
Floyd Kephart, business man in charge of keeping the Raiders in Oakland.
 
You guys realize V.B. is fist pumping Carson too. Connect the dots here. Everyone knows Stan Kroenke is building that Inglewood stadium. The NFL wants the perception that it's all about Carson and St Louis. I highly doubt Kroenke was even in attendance. The NFL wants civic and public perception although it is misleading to interpret the fact that the Rams might stay in St Louis or they are ahead of the stadium curve with their BS Stadium plan and the Raiders and chargers same situation in Carson. Why would they do this? It's quite simple actually. This allows the league to take the attention away from the Rams whom are actually moving to Inglewood (whats really happing)while promoting urgency in Oakland, San Diego and St Louis. The NFL wants the Chargers and Raiders to get it done in in their current markets and this pressure needs hit these home cities hard so the message is clear. The NFL does not want 2 franchises in California in limbo while the Rams come sailing in next year. If at least one home team stadium is built Stan has a solution or a threat of a solution when Inglewood is completed. So that's the reporting and the ugliness of the NFL doing it's expeditious stadium uncertainties while Stan Kroenke still works heavily and quietly vestiging his LA end game. Nothing to worry about here.

well said.:thup:
 
As Farmer outlines, the St. Louis group went first, giving a half-hour presentation.RamsownerStan Kroenkethen made an hour-long presentation on the Inglewood proposal,

Latest On Los Angeles Stadium Talks - NFL Rumors - ProFootballRumors.com


  • it was a combination of the State of the City Address, Interview with Fred Roggin, and HKS Architect's presentation. Basically, a reiteration of how the stadium will be built, starting the 1st week of December "or sooner," according to the Mayor. Helargely dismissed Carson by saying that while it "could" happen, there's just no real way to catch Inglewood. He specified that football WOULD be played at the City of Champions in 2018.
Just about the time Carson finishes their environmental imp report and cleans up all the methane!!! Nice!

hee hee.

replay of state of the city.

http://www.cityofinglewood.org/soc15.html

Mayor Butts explained the simple difference between the Hollywood Park site and the toxic site in Carson better than anyone has to date. While the Inglewood Stadium will be ready for football by September, 2018, Carson would need at least two more years, "haul away and destroy six stories of dirt," and then replace it with unpolluted dirt, and then, get this, spend $3 million to $4 million EVERY YEAR FOREVER to keep its site from "what lies beneath." Mayor Butts nailed it when he said "what lies beneath," because that is precisely why the Carson stadium will never get built.:biggrin::clap2::clap2:

  • Just saying but wouldn't the mayor of Inglewood be a little biased on this subject? Hearing directly from the mouth of a expert on the matter would be much more credible I would think.
You don't need to be an expert to know building on a former toxic dump site is not exactly a good idea.

Sean, Butts would not publicly say what he said unless he could back it up.

Mayor Butts only has science and the facts on his side.

.

I was at the State of the City Address in Inglewood this afternoon. The Mayor of Inglewood pretty much laughed at Carson today. Said the site was only 80% remediated and that they had to dig "six stories" worth of dirt out of the entire 167 acres, cover what remains below with a giant plastic tarp, destroy the dirt they took out, then bring in new dirt to lay over the plastic tarp and then cover the entire 167 acres with new dirt. How many cubic tons of dirt is that?? THEN, they have to install a methane gas pumping system that will have to run FOREVER, at a cost of $300,000-400,000 a month, FOREVER. The Mayor didn't seem all that worried about Carson. Estimates say they won't be able to build until after 2017. What a frigging joke!!

JOKE IS RIGHT.:biggrin:
 
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sam feels Rams are the one.

Sam Farmer

"Every time he comes, there is a backward step," Kephart said of NFL Executive Vice President Eric Grubman, who was in Oakland last week. "And if he would just stay the hell out of here, we might actually get a deal done."

Kephart also dismissed the city of Carson's approval this week of a $1.7 billion football stadium 17 miles south of downtown Los Angeles for the Raiders and San Diego Chargers, saying it is nothing more than a ploy to extract concessions out of Oakland and ...San Diego.


http://www.mercurynews.com/…/unnecessary-roughness-oakland-…
 
Interesting stuff

Watched state of the city and most interesting thing said was by Mayor Butts. He said that he had spoken with Eric Grubman long before the announcement in January. Grubman told him then that his stadium plan would not work unless he had an owner and team committed to it. Isn't that interesting?

No other proposed site has what Inglewood has. 1.They have the owner. 2. The owner owns the land. 3.They have the financing. Plus they are on track to start building in December of this year.

From what Butts said about Carson, not only do they have additional clean up of that contaminated land but, they will have to build a system to control the methane gas leaking from that site. I believe the Mayor said the estimated cost to run that system was 300,000.00 per year. So, who is going to eat the 300K per year?

Dont mess with stan.

Billionaire Stan Kroenke Splits With Real Estate Partner Launches Legal Battle - Forbes
 
Can we say awkward? Yesterday the committee of 6 NFL owners responsible for relocation to LA heard presentations of stadium plans and updates from StL, Ingelwood, and Carson, in that order. First up was StL, Peacock and company tried to impress the committee with new stadium renderings and video of the proposed Riverfront $985 million project. The 30 to 45 min presentation was to show the committee that StL is serious about keeping the Rams (their virtual stadium had Ram colo...rs and Rams written in each end-zone) Now Guess who followed StL? Yup, Stan Kroenke himself presenting for an hour about the $1.86 billion Ingelwood project!!!! I just find it ridiculously funny and ironic that Peacock, after trying to get a Kroenke a stadium meeting for months finally got his wish, but wait a minute, they are on competing sides! How awkward is it that owner of the team you plastered all over your virtual stadium is sitting right there, right there showing the same committee his preferred alternative in LA? Can you imagine the scene in that room? Peacock, Kroenke finally in the same room, but wait, they are on opposite sides on where the Rams will end up. News flash: The number one guy Peacock needs to convince is convincing the same people he's alternative plans for his team. Wow. Peacock can put on his best to the LA 6 committee but without Kroenke first opening his wallet and second signing on the dotted new stadium lease line he is only talking about a theoretical stadium for the Rams! The real applied stadium plans for the Rams where shown after by Stan himself in Ingelwood. I mean Kroenke could have made Peacock's day with one word but instead had a mouthful of them to why hell no. Kroenke's presentation was not just to show the LA 6 committee why Ingelwood, it was also the final one hour long NO to Peacock. These are not just a few tea leaves to read anymore, Kroenke dropped a whole Lipton factory if front o
 
this is outstanding news!!!!:clap::dance:

I had heard that Roger Goodell had said the NFL only wanted 2 teams in all of Southern California not just LA. Did I hear this Right? If the rams move to Inglewood that would mean Raiders cant move and the Carson project would be for nothing as the chargers can't and won't do it on their own.
 
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