Exactly how did US roads and bridges build the first auto?

I hate to break it to you, Frankie, but the USA's investment in infrastructure also included investing in the industrial aspects of the country.

But you didn't answer my question.

Well your question is idiotic and I was thinking you were going to come back and change it to something less retarded.

We have roads and bridges, we are not unique in that respect. Many other nations alos have these "Roads and bridges" that you Obama and Liz "High Cheekbones" Warren never stop telling us about, yet we have the worlds #1 economy.

Maybe there's some mysterious force at work other than "roads and bridges"?

The countries you've held up for comparative purposes (Mexico, etc.) don't invest in their infrastructure to the extent we do in America.

You are trying to make some point and failing badly.

As I pointed out in the OP, "infrastructure" is nothing new or magical. The Roman Aqueducts and the Colosseum are still there 2 whole millennium after they was build, but because Italy has embraced the 100% Guaranteed Fail of Progressive Redistribution as its main economic philosophy, it's headed for oblivion.

Infrastructure =/= Success
 
Perhaps the question should have been, why did America believe that to have commerce roads, bridges, canals and railroads were needed?
 
And yeah, Frank. Karl Benz invented and patent the first combusiton engine usable for an automobile. It wasn't until Ford came along that the task of designing and selling mass automobiles at an affordable price to the public in the US was established.


Also, that Roman bridge you have there is part of an aqueduct.
 
Well your question is idiotic and I was thinking you were going to come back and change it to something less retarded.

We have roads and bridges, we are not unique in that respect. Many other nations alos have these "Roads and bridges" that you Obama and Liz "High Cheekbones" Warren never stop telling us about, yet we have the worlds #1 economy.

Maybe there's some mysterious force at work other than "roads and bridges"?

The countries you've held up for comparative purposes (Mexico, etc.) don't invest in their infrastructure to the extent we do in America.

You are trying to make some point and failing badly.

As I pointed out in the OP, "infrastructure" is nothing new or magical. The Roman Aqueducts and the Colosseum are still there 2 whole millennium after they was build, but because Italy has embraced the 100% Guaranteed Fail of Progressive Redistribution as its main economic philosophy, it's headed for oblivion.

Infrastructure =/= Success
Which of the countries invest in infrastructure the way we do?
 
Exactly how did US roads and bridges build the first auto?

Who said they did? Do you have a credible Obama quote of such?

Obama is on record saying business owners didn't built it, somebody else did. I don't have a clue who he was talking about, maybe you can shed some light?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ZO7XOpwa8]Obama 7.13.2012: If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. - YouTube[/ame]

You don't have a clue? Okay, I can accept that.

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And yeah, Frank. Karl Benz invented and patent the first combusiton engine usable for an automobile. It wasn't until Ford came along that the task of designing and selling mass automobiles at an affordable price to the public in the US was established.


Also, that Roman bridge you have there is part of an aqueduct.
LMAO! I guess no one ever invested in Frankie's infrastructure.
 
This conversation is starting to border dangerously close to the age old libertarian/ anarcho-captialist one with statists who when find a discussion based on pure market capitalism vs. state sponsorship, the "who would build the roads?" question is always to appear right on queue.

Night-of-the-Living-Statists.jpg
 
Google "Hoover dam" then come back when you have even a pinch of a clue to what you are talking about

You can google the TVA too. Many of my relatives in Appalachia got their first non-farm jobs with the TVA - though they weren't hit as hard by the depression, as they were basically self-sufficient as it was. And one main reason for the existence of the TVA to ensure that the Alcoa Aluminum plants had a supply of sufficient electricity (A PRIVATE BUSINESSES) to make plane parts. Are all you righties really this historically inept?
 
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In the 1920's roads and bridges were ubiquitous. Every country had roads and/or bridges and the vast majority of truly great civilizations had both roads and bridges.

Somehow, and just in the USA, roads and bridges were responsible for the development of the automobile.

Can someone switch on their Obama Context Filter and walk us through how roads and bridges in the USA were responsible for the development of the automobile?

The automobile was invented in Germany.

Um, yeah. OK

And?

Rudolph Diesel and Henry Ford wanted to run their vehicles on hemp oil. What does that have to do with the OP?


It directly speaks to your statement that:


Somehow, and just in the USA, roads and bridges were responsible for the development of the automobile.
 
A rare good post from Frank though a failed "bash the left" attempt.

Henry Ford was one of the pioneers of offering hard working americans an honest job for fair pay. He took the automobile from a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford, to ones that the average american could.During those days it was still dirt roads with horse and buggy still competing with them.

It wasn't until the revolutionary FDR came into office from years of right wing destruction creating the great depression. From there FDR knew what made a great america, the people of this great land. They needed help in which he put the american people to work when they needed it the most to beautify america by create the roads and much of the infrastructure we still enjoy today.

This happens with every single piece of innovation since the beginning of innovation. Same thing happened with horse carts. Same thing happened with silverware. Same thing happened with computers. Same thing happened with refrigerators. Same thing happened with mobile phones. This is how economics work.

:lmao:

Eisenhower is the one who spilled budget money on building highways. FDR did nothing but fucking trap the American public in a never ending debt mountian with his new deal policies that he stacked the supreme court to attain.

FAIL.


BINGOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

FDR helped the US....bwahahahaaa.....black label is now defending Henry Ford......a massive company owner? You mean he wasnt a robber baron? And he was a pretty stout anti-semite.....and a nazi sympthiser....that's what the left tells us......hmmmm the conundrum.......
 
A rare good post from Frank though a failed "bash the left" attempt.

Henry Ford was one of the pioneers of offering hard working americans an honest job for fair pay. He took the automobile from a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford, to ones that the average american could.

During those days it was still dirt roads with horse and buggy still competing with them.

It wasn't until the revolutionary FDR came into office from years of right wing destruction creating the great depression. From there FDR knew what made a great america, the people of this great land. They needed help in which he put the american people to work when they needed it the most to beautify america by create the roads and much of the infrastructure we still enjoy today.

  • I drive nearly every day on unpaved, dirt paths. It doesn't effect my day in any capacity whether it's dirt or pavement and the idiot liberal has been incapable so far in explaining their obsession with pointing out "roads" as an excuse for their socialism.

  • Liberals sound like children with Down Syndrome. "We have woads". Ok? Good. Good. But what does that have to do with a businesses success? "We have woads". Yes, I know we do. But what difference does that make? "We have woads". Look - your defeating yourself here. Since everybody has access to those same roads, wouldn't everybody be successful multi-millionaire business owners if roads had anything to do with anything?!? "We have woads". Ugh!!! Go watch Barney. "Otay.... We have woads".

  • Liberals can't even understand that roads are built by local government with local taxes while we're discussing the federal government. Their argument is so weak and pathetic, they can't even make one for the level of government we're discussing.

  • Liberals also can't imagine being self-reliant. If government doesn't care for and coddle them like an infant, they fear they would die (and they probably would as lazy as they are). It's beyond their capacity to comprehend us conservatives that are self-reliant and will succeed out of sheer will, regardless of the circumstances. We would never let a little thing like no road stop our prosperity. We'd just drive right over the grass/dirt/rocks/etc. (gasp! imagine that?!?!?)

  • Liberals are killing themselves with the dumbest argument ever. If it wasn't for government and roads creating prosperity, how do they explain how we even got there? There were no paved roads in 1776. And there was no government either when we declared our independence from England. And yet all we did was thrive into the most prosperous nation in world history. It was businesses, without roads or government that paid the taxes which built the roads that you know obsess over like children with Down Symmdrome! :cuckoo:

I know, I know....... "we have woads". That's all you can say and that is all you will respond with.
 
A rare good post from Frank though a failed "bash the left" attempt.

Henry Ford was one of the pioneers of offering hard working americans an honest job for fair pay. He took the automobile from a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford, to ones that the average american could.

During those days it was still dirt roads with horse and buggy still competing with them.

It wasn't until the revolutionary FDR came into office from years of right wing destruction creating the great depression. From there FDR knew what made a great america, the people of this great land. They needed help in which he put the american people to work when they needed it the most to beautify america by create the roads and much of the infrastructure we still enjoy today.

  • I drive nearly every day on unpaved, dirt paths. It doesn't effect my day in any capacity whether it's dirt or pavement and the idiot liberal has been incapable so far in explaining their obsession with pointing out "roads" as an excuse for their socialism.

  • Liberals sound like children with Down Syndrome. "We have woads". Ok? Good. Good. But what does that have to do with a businesses success? "We have woads". Yes, I know we do. But what difference does that make? "We have woads". Look - your defeating yourself here. Since everybody has access to those same roads, wouldn't everybody be successful multi-millionaire business owners if roads had anything to do with anything?!? "We have woads". Ugh!!! Go watch Barney. "Otay.... We have woads".

  • Liberals can't even understand that roads are built by local government with local taxes while we're discussing the federal government. Their argument is so weak and pathetic, they can't even make one for the level of government we're discussing.

  • Liberals also can't imagine being self-reliant. If government doesn't care for and coddle them like an infant, they fear they would die (and they probably would as lazy as they are). It's beyond their capacity to comprehend us conservatives that are self-reliant and will succeed out of sheer will, regardless of the circumstances. We would never let a little thing like no road stop our prosperity. We'd just drive right over the grass/dirt/rocks/etc. (gasp! imagine that?!?!?)

  • Liberals are killing themselves with the dumbest argument ever. If it wasn't for government and roads creating prosperity, how do they explain how we even got there? There were no paved roads in 1776. And there was no government either when we declared our independence from England. And yet all we did was thrive into the most prosperous nation in world history. It was businesses, without roads or government that paid the taxes which built the roads that you know obsess over like children with Down Symmdrome! :cuckoo:

I know, I know....... "we have woads". That's all you can say and that is all you will respond with.

^ this is stupidity in attempt to call out stupidity. Congratulations.

I think the point is, infrastructure increases the ability for Customers to patron your Business knuckle-head.
 
And yeah, Frank. Karl Benz invented and patent the first combusiton engine usable for an automobile. It wasn't until Ford came along that the task of designing and selling mass automobiles at an affordable price to the public in the US was established.


Also, that Roman bridge you have there is part of an aqueduct.

It's an aqueduct, it carried water, that part of the structure is a bridge
 
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There are many failed countries that follow the Progressive economic philosophy, we shouldn't emulate them.
 
A rare good post from Frank though a failed "bash the left" attempt.

Henry Ford was one of the pioneers of offering hard working americans an honest job for fair pay. He took the automobile from a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford, to ones that the average american could.

During those days it was still dirt roads with horse and buggy still competing with them.

It wasn't until the revolutionary FDR came into office from years of right wing destruction creating the great depression. From there FDR knew what made a great america, the people of this great land. They needed help in which he put the american people to work when they needed it the most to beautify america by create the roads and much of the infrastructure we still enjoy today.

  • I drive nearly every day on unpaved, dirt paths. It doesn't effect my day in any capacity whether it's dirt or pavement and the idiot liberal has been incapable so far in explaining their obsession with pointing out "roads" as an excuse for their socialism.

  • Liberals sound like children with Down Syndrome. "We have woads". Ok? Good. Good. But what does that have to do with a businesses success? "We have woads". Yes, I know we do. But what difference does that make? "We have woads". Look - your defeating yourself here. Since everybody has access to those same roads, wouldn't everybody be successful multi-millionaire business owners if roads had anything to do with anything?!? "We have woads". Ugh!!! Go watch Barney. "Otay.... We have woads".

  • Liberals can't even understand that roads are built by local government with local taxes while we're discussing the federal government. Their argument is so weak and pathetic, they can't even make one for the level of government we're discussing.

  • Liberals also can't imagine being self-reliant. If government doesn't care for and coddle them like an infant, they fear they would die (and they probably would as lazy as they are). It's beyond their capacity to comprehend us conservatives that are self-reliant and will succeed out of sheer will, regardless of the circumstances. We would never let a little thing like no road stop our prosperity. We'd just drive right over the grass/dirt/rocks/etc. (gasp! imagine that?!?!?)

  • Liberals are killing themselves with the dumbest argument ever. If it wasn't for government and roads creating prosperity, how do they explain how we even got there? There were no paved roads in 1776. And there was no government either when we declared our independence from England. And yet all we did was thrive into the most prosperous nation in world history. It was businesses, without roads or government that paid the taxes which built the roads that you know obsess over like children with Down Symmdrome! :cuckoo:

I know, I know....... "we have woads". That's all you can say and that is all you will respond with.

^ this is stupidity in attempt to call out stupidity. Congratulations.

I think the point is, infrastructure increases the ability for Customers to patron your Business knuckle-head.

In other words, you can't dispute one thing I just said... :lol:

Somehow, businesses were "patronized" all through the 1700's and all through the 1800's.... knuckle-head. And you know what? We didn't surrender freedoms to communism/marxism/socialism/fascism back then.
 
In the 1920's roads and bridges were ubiquitous. Every country had roads and/or bridges and the vast majority of truly great civilizations had both roads and bridges.

Somehow, and just in the USA, roads and bridges were responsible for the development of the automobile.

Can someone switch on their Obama Context Filter and walk us through how roads and bridges in the USA were responsible for the development of the automobile?

Before there were automobiles, there were horse drawn wagons, which were still in pretty common use all the way up until the 1930's, actually.

That's why there were roads for them. But when more and more people got automobiles, it was clear that uncle Cleetus's horse road wasn't going to get the job done anymore...

During the 1930's, Colonel Dwight D. Eisenhower was involved in an Army excercise to move troops across the country, and it took 66 days to do it. When he later became General Eisenhower, he saw that the government sponsored Autobahn in Germany made it a lot easier for Germany to move troops from one front to another very quickly as needed.

Thus, why he invested in the interstate highway system we know today.
 
The easiest person to fool is yourself, Frank proves that almost daily. Technology evolves from many sources, so the BS question makes no sense at all. Horses, Bicycles, weather, steam, coal, wood, carbon fuels, travel, trace the history of these developments and get back to us. Please note place, location, inventor etc. Hopefully we won't see you for a few years. :lol:

Did You Know? Francois Isaac de Rivaz Designed the First Internal Combustion Engine in 1807?

"Most general histories of technology are Eurocentrist, focusing on a main line of Western technology that stretches from the Greeks is through the computer. In this very different book, Arnold Pacey takes a global view, placing the development of technology squarely in a "world civilization." He portrays the process as a complex dialectic by which inventions borrowed from one culture are adopted to suit another.Arnold Pacey is a physicist turned historian whose publications have contributed to the British appropriate-technology movement. He has written widely on science, technology, and agriculture. His previous books include The Maze of Ingenuity and The Culture of Technology." [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Technology-World-Civilization-Thousand-Year-History/dp/0262660725/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: Technology in World Civilization: A Thousand-Year History (9780262660723): Arnold Pacey: Books[/ame]


Technology Chronology

"There is no escaping from ourselves. The human dilemma is as it has always been, and we solve nothing fundamental by cloaking ourselves in technological glory." Neil Postman


"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"
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Somehow, businesses were "patronized" all through the 1700's and all through the 1800's.... knuckle-head. And you know what? We didn't surrender freedoms to communism/marxism/socialism/fascism back then.

Oh really? Businesses in Boston were "patronized" by suppliers in California and Mexico?
 
A rare good post from Frank though a failed "bash the left" attempt.

Henry Ford was one of the pioneers of offering hard working americans an honest job for fair pay. He took the automobile from a luxury that only the very wealthy could afford, to ones that the average american could.

During those days it was still dirt roads with horse and buggy still competing with them.

It wasn't until the revolutionary FDR came into office from years of right wing destruction creating the great depression. From there FDR knew what made a great america, the people of this great land. They needed help in which he put the american people to work when they needed it the most to beautify america by create the roads and much of the infrastructure we still enjoy today.

Henry Fords automobile for everyone would never have taken off if Ford Motor Company had to build all the roads and bridges that their cars would drive on

It was a MASSIVE investment in road infrastructure from the taxpayer that enabled the Auto Companies to prosper
 

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