EU Threatens Tiny Switzerland Over Low Taxes

You'd be deluding yourself if you thought the Swiss were conservative.

And in an intelligent world economics have no political affiliation......

Good thing we live in dumb as dirt America, huh, where anything negative with the economy is a result of liberal policies and nothing else, right?


You'd be deluding yourself if you thought the Swiss were conservative.

Well the EU sure isn't Conservative. Hell,we're not Conservative here either. The Swiss do have lower Taxes than the EU so i doubt they're more Socialist than the EU is. Looks like the Swiss did the right thing staying out of the EU. I have to applaud them on their wisdom. And the EU should be ashamed of themselves for trying to strong-arm them.

You're right, the EU isn't Conservative either. More Liberal governments, for the most part.

Demanding Switzerland raise Taxes really is a new low for the EU. They are so bitter and desperate now. They need a convenient scapegoat. Looks like Switzerland not being part of the EU makes them that convenient scapegoat. But hey,at least it's not the Jews this time...Yet.
 
And in an intelligent world economics have no political affiliation......

Good thing we live in dumb as dirt America, huh, where anything negative with the economy is a result of liberal policies and nothing else, right?


Well the EU sure isn't Conservative. Hell,we're not Conservative here either. The Swiss do have lower Taxes than the EU so i doubt they're more Socialist than the EU is. Looks like the Swiss did the right thing staying out of the EU. I have to applaud them on their wisdom. And the EU should be ashamed of themselves for trying to strong-arm them.

You're right, the EU isn't Conservative either. More Liberal governments, for the most part.

Demanding Switzerland raise Taxes really is a new low for the EU. They are so bitter and desperate now. They need a convenient scapegoat. Looks like Switzerland not being part of the EU makes them that convenient scapegoat. But hey,at least it's not the Jews this time...Yet.

The Jews? What the hell are you talking about?
 
That's right, dittohead, you're ALREADY paying for the uninsured, in the most expensive way possible: ER care, 750k bankruptcies, no preventive car, 50k deaths, and people not working and going on welfare to get medicaid. BRILLIANT. And not all gangbangers...love the way dittohead brains DON'T work.


Switzerland is like having the Cayman Islands in the middle of the EU, chumps.

It'd be nice if you mentioned that your link is a total BS RW blog, AS ALWAYS.

How do you PAY FOR FREE HEALTH CARE????

Under the socialist model we would fail in a matter of 10 years...

Why you think socialist models either fail or go totalitarian???

What I just said is probably too philosophical and intelligent for you to understand or even ponder.... If you're even up to it I'm talking about Stalin, Mao, Castro, Kim Il-Sung etc...

Sure, Glenn. Socialists are not communists.

No health care is free. It's just that the present Pub system is the most expensive and stupid ever devised.
 
Good thing we live in dumb as dirt America, huh, where anything negative with the economy is a result of liberal policies and nothing else, right?




You're right, the EU isn't Conservative either. More Liberal governments, for the most part.

Demanding Switzerland raise Taxes really is a new low for the EU. They are so bitter and desperate now. They need a convenient scapegoat. Looks like Switzerland not being part of the EU makes them that convenient scapegoat. But hey,at least it's not the Jews this time...Yet.

The Jews? What the hell are you talking about?

Europe has a long dark history of scapegoating Jews for their problems. So far they haven't gone there but anything's possible over there. Right now Switzerland will do.
 
lol! Gotta love American Socialists/Progressives. They're so quick to kiss Euro ass. They're just a bunch of wannabes. I mean they're actually claiming Switzerland is much more Socialist than the EU yet they have much lower Taxes than the EU. Now do people see why the EU and our own nation is crumbling? Look at who's running things. The Swiss were geniuses in deciding not to join the EU. Way ahead of their time for sure.
 
That's right, dittohead, you're ALREADY paying for the uninsured, in the most expensive way possible: ER care, 750k bankruptcies, no preventive car, 50k deaths, and people not working and going on welfare to get medicaid. BRILLIANT. And not all gangbangers...love the way dittohead brains DON'T work.


Switzerland is like having the Cayman Islands in the middle of the EU, chumps.

It'd be nice if you mentioned that your link is a total BS RW blog, AS ALWAYS.

Your post is all lies and bullshit. No point in bothering with a substantive response.
 
That's right, dittohead, you're ALREADY paying for the uninsured, in the most expensive way possible: ER care, 750k bankruptcies, no preventive car, 50k deaths, and people not working and going on welfare to get medicaid. BRILLIANT. And not all gangbangers...love the way dittohead brains DON'T work.


Switzerland is like having the Cayman Islands in the middle of the EU, chumps.

It'd be nice if you mentioned that your link is a total BS RW blog, AS ALWAYS.

Your post is all lies and bullshit. No point in bothering with a substantive response.

Aw,don't be so hard on him or her. Their Socialist fantasy in Europe is dying. They're in ruins. You know they're desperate when they start picking on a small harmless nation like Switzerland. It's just so sad to see our own nation heading down that same disastrous road. Our Politicians don't seem to have learned anything from Europe's collapse. We're heading full steam ahead for Socialism while they're heading full steam away form it. It's very sad.
 
The link was to a John Birch Society web site, which of course has no credibility, so I skimmed through it to find a link to some more reliable information, and I found this:

The European Union may consider taking measures if no progress is made in talks over the varying Swiss corporate taxation rates in its 26 cantons. - swissinfo

Turns out the EU's beef isn't with Switzerland's LOW taxes, but with "the varying Swiss corporate taxation rates in its 26 cantons." In other words, Switzerland allows its component cantons to set corporate tax rates independently so that there is no consistent tax rate throughout the country.

Always check the sources and the facts before responding to a claim like this.

Actually, that isn't correct either. Here is a more detail explanation:

FDF - Switzerland considers the decision of the European Commission to be unfounded – no infringement of Free Trade Agreement by cantonal tax provisions

Switzerland considers the decision of the European Commission to be unfounded – no infringement of Free Trade Agreement by cantonal tax provisions
Bern, 13.02.2007 - Switzerland qualifies the decision of the European Commission in which the latter identifies an infringement of the 1972 Free Trade Agreement between the European Communities and the Swiss Confederation due to certain cantonal measures on company taxation as unfounded. No contractual regulations exist between Switzerland and the European Union (EU) on the harmonisation of company taxation. Consequently, it is not possible for there to be an infringement of any agreement. This applies in particular to the Free Trade Agreement.

On 13 February 2007 the European Commission informed Switzerland of its unilateral decision by which it considers certain tax schemes applied by the cantons to certain types of company (holding companies, management companies and joint enterprises) on the basis of parameters set under federal law (Tax Harmonisation Act), to be state aid. In the view of the Commission, these tax schemes at the cantonal and communal level distort competition and impair trade in a manner not compatible with the 1972 Free Trade Agreement.

The European Commission first signalled to Switzerland its concerns regarding taxation schemes at the cantonal and communal levels for certain types of company in September 2005. It made clear at that time that it might consider these tax schemes as state aid, not compatible with the 1972 Free Trade Agreement. Switzerland set out in detail the legal arguments to the Commission by letter dated 9 March 2006. On 13 March the Commission requested that an extraordinary joint commission be convened. As a result the parties discussed their positions. Nonetheless the Commission maintained its position in the meeting of the joint commission on 14 December 2006. To date the Commission has not responded to Switzerland's arguments.
Switzerland's argument

Switzerland rejects the criticism of the Commission as unfounded, in essence citing the following arguments:

There are no contractual regulations between Switzerland and the EU which could obligate Switzerland to bring its system of company taxation into line with that of the EU states. In this respect no violations of any agreements are possible.
This applies in particular to the Free Trade Agreement which only covers trade in certain goods and does not provide a sufficient basis for judging company taxation, in particular concerning distortion of competition.
Switzerland is not part of the Single European Market. Correspondingly neither the rules on competition in the EC Treaty - amongst others the rules on state aid - nor the code of conduct on company taxation agreed amongst the member states are applicable to Switzerland.
The cantonal measures on company taxation under criticism do not discriminate against domestic companies and do not constitute special treatment of foreign companies: they are not selective but are open to all commercial players - regardless of nationality or manufacturing or economic sector.
That the tax provisions criticised impair bilateral trade between Switzerland and the EU is simply not possible because the types of company mentioned are not allowed to carry out any business activities geared to the trade in goods in Switzerland or (in the case of joint enterprises) only carry out secondary business activities, although in the case of the latter, revenue from business activities in Switzerland are taxed as normal.

Maintaining Switzerland's appeal as a location for business
Locational competition is a fact. Tax burdens vary considerably even in the EU and company locational moves occur between the EU states. Like all states, Switzerland endeavours to be an attractive business location with advantageous conditions. Company taxation is an important factor in this regard, but is not the only reason by a long chalk for Switzerland being attractive. Modern infrastructure, a flexible, multilingual and well-qualified workforce, strong research and developmental capacity, industrial peace and a well-developed network of double taxation agreements with the most important economic partners amongst other things are also important in investment and locational decisions. Switzerland will ensure that its appeal as a location for Swiss and foreign companies remains intact or even improve upon this.

Note: The EU is still trying to bully Switzerland into complying with it's onerous tax regulations. The gist of the OP is essentially correct. Your characterization of the disagreement is wrong.

Now, who is it you should trust?
 
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That's right, dittohead, you're ALREADY paying for the uninsured, in the most expensive way possible: ER care, 750k bankruptcies, no preventive car, 50k deaths, and people not working and going on welfare to get medicaid. BRILLIANT. And not all gangbangers...love the way dittohead brains DON'T work.


Switzerland is like having the Cayman Islands in the middle of the EU, chumps.

It'd be nice if you mentioned that your link is a total BS RW blog, AS ALWAYS.

Your post is all lies and bullshit. No point in bothering with a substantive response.

Aw,don't be so hard on him or her. Their Socialist fantasy in Europe is dying. They're in ruins. You know they're desperate when they start picking on a small harmless nation like Switzerland. It's just so sad to see our own nation heading down that same disastrous road. Our Politicians don't seem to have learned anything from Europe's collapse. We're heading full steam ahead for Socialism while they're heading full steam away form it. It's very sad.

You never give a loser a break. When they start to go down, you kick them even harder. Make certain they never get back up again.
 
Pubcrappe- this about the fact that Switz hides bank accounts and corporate headquarters.

The only difference between Switz and the EU. But carry on flailing in Ignoramusland LOL.

Newt 2012, morons.
 
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Pubcrappe- this about the fact that Switz hides bank accounts and corporate headquarters.

The only difference between Switz and the EU. But carry on flailing in Ignoramusland LOL.

Newt 2012, morons.

Yes the EU could learn something from them. But for now it just looks like all-out chaos & ruins for them. The Swiss were true geniuses in staying out of the EU. More in Europe should get the hell out. If they're smart anyway.
 
Pubcrappe- this about the fact that Switz hides bank accounts and corporate headquarters.

The only difference between Switz and the EU. But carry on flailing in Ignoramusland LOL.

Newt 2012, morons.

Switzerland and its cantons have every right to set its own tax rates, just like Washington and all the states have every right to set its own tax rates.
 
Ever seen their civilization, dittohead? They're ALL happier than us, corporate tool. But thanks for the depression. I guess we could show them a thing or two about screwing the poor, destroying the non rich, and killing people with our Pub health "system"...

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

And, no, I couldn't move there. Actually, you can't.I would like to fix my home. Health care, living wage will do it.
Socialist a#$w%$#.
 
When the EU does completely collapse they'll be back begging the Swiss for forgiveness in no time. Bank on that.
 
Everyone has national health care, dittohead, and they all LOVE it. The Swiss and Dutch have systems like Obamacare, with private insurers. They pay half what we do with much better results. It's NOT the biggest worry of the people, like here. Pub dupes!
No, they don't all love socialized medicine dinglebarry.
 
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That's right, dittohead, you're ALREADY paying for the uninsured, in the most expensive way possible: ER care, 750k bankruptcies, no preventive car, 50k deaths, and people not working and going on welfare to get medicaid. BRILLIANT. And not all gangbangers...love the way dittohead brains DON'T work.


Switzerland is like having the Cayman Islands in the middle of the EU, chumps.

It'd be nice if you mentioned that your link is a total BS RW blog, AS ALWAYS.
It would be nice if you mentioned you are barney franks lover.
 
Morons- tell me how great the tax rates are in the Cayman Islands now...that's what the EU is complaining about Switz. Like arguing with brainwashed zombies...wonder why.
 
Everyone has national health care, dittohead, and they all LOVE it. The Swiss and Dutch have systems like Obamacare, with private insurers. They pay half what we do with much better results. It's NOT the biggest worry of the people, like here. Pub dupes!
No, they don't all love socialized medicine dinglebarry.
I'm sure you can produce a few people who don't like it. But the truth is, the great majority like their health care.
 

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