daveman
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Indeed. And it is NOT "disagreeing with leftist horseshit".Treason also has a definition.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Indeed. And it is NOT "disagreeing with leftist horseshit".Treason also has a definition.
Who took the case to court, dummy?
Who took the case to court is irrelavent to the question I asked you which was upon what scientific basis did the court make the decision they made. I gave you the answer to the question and you still can't answer it.
And the huge dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico caused by ag runoff due to corn raised for ethanol production.And thus began... the beginning of the end. Of commerce.
Doesn't matter what age-old ruling, what matters is today. And today natural gas and its associated spinoffs is driving this worthless Obama-ladan economy.
EPA be damned. And they ARE a damnable bunch.
With one toxic waste site for every 300 Americans, you could look at the EPA that way.
You could also be reasonable and notice that Gov. Perry once was considered a moderate, before moving to the right with all his nonsense to impress the Teabagger crowd for his political gain. Of course, you all knew that because no one can fool your kind!
Only the wingnuts think the EPA is strict.
What percentage of our nuclear facilities don't have radioactive tritium in the ground water below?
If someone is doing a very large project, you would think in the over 42 years after President Nixon proposed it and the EPA started operation that someone would figure out the rules and plan ahead for an Environmental Impact Report. Nixon proposed the EPA after the Cuyahoga River, which runs into Lake Erie "caught fire" and the Santa Barbara oil spill.
Cuyahoga River of Cleveland, Ohio, "catching fire"
Funny how you damn the oil companies for their environmental damage but turn a blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of birds killed by windmill companies...eh Lucy?
Since when did someone's free speech lashing out at big government become treason?We have a lot of authoritarian types around here. I wonder if it is an internet tough guy thing, or if this country really is headed into the literal despot shitter.
Texas and the right-wing have people calling themselves patriots and talking about seceding from the union. In the case of Texas, long ago I've checked Perry's background on a site called "on the issues", which shows his record on various issues. Perry was rated as a dead center moderate. When the Tea Party movement started, Perry changed and has been extreme ever since. He did it for his own political ambition and not because of ideology.
There is your despot, who during bad economic times wasted taxpayers money in a meaningless lawsuit.
There is a big difference between being a patriot and calling yourself one. Treason also has a definition.
Obama boot-lickers are such whiny little bitches.Since when did someone's free speech lashing out at big government become treason?Texas and the right-wing have people calling themselves patriots and talking about seceding from the union. In the case of Texas, long ago I've checked Perry's background on a site called "on the issues", which shows his record on various issues. Perry was rated as a dead center moderate. When the Tea Party movement started, Perry changed and has been extreme ever since. He did it for his own political ambition and not because of ideology.
There is your despot, who during bad economic times wasted taxpayers money in a meaningless lawsuit.
There is a big difference between being a patriot and calling yourself one. Treason also has a definition.
Since when did people become stupid enough to support a Governor talking about seceding from the United States?
Try it sometime and see if you people aren't tried for treason! You can leave, but you aren't taking the country with you.
Why is it you have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate you're nothing but a little bitch when someone criticizes your Dear Reader?Since when did someone's free speech lashing out at big government become treason?
Since Obama got elected President.
Why is it right-wingers have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate to the world that they entirely lack good judgment? I was a conservative back in the Goldwater days and I didn't act like you clowns.
Indeed. And it is NOT "disagreeing with leftist horseshit".Treason also has a definition.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Funny how the left doesn't want its traitors tried, huh? You just want to call the people tired of your tyranny "traitors".Indeed. And it is NOT "disagreeing with leftist horseshit".Treason also has a definition.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I mentioned secession and not disagreeing, so changing what I said just shows you can't follow the subject.
You try to secede from the United States and it's treason by definition. When the South did it, the only reason their leaders weren't brought up on treason charges was leniency and wanting to quickly establish the peace.
If you don't think rebellion against your country is treason, tell it to the Judge during sentencing, if you try it. You need to face reality, whether you like it or agree with it. It's still real.
This is the problem with the EPA. They keep trying to grab more power. A judge just shot them down in Virginia over storm water run off.
Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia | Fox News
So, instead of acknowledging that the government you worship overstepped its authority, you whine like a little bitch about the source.This is the problem with the EPA. They keep trying to grab more power. A judge just shot them down in Virginia over storm water run off.
Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia | Fox News
Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.
Why is it you have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate you're nothing but a little bitch when someone criticizes your Dear Reader?Since Obama got elected President.
Why is it right-wingers have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate to the world that they entirely lack good judgment? I was a conservative back in the Goldwater days and I didn't act like you clowns.
Man up, Zippy. Not everyone worships your little tin god. And you can't make us, no matter how many tantrums you throw.
So, instead of acknowledging that the government you worship overstepped its authority, you whine like a little bitch about the source.This is the problem with the EPA. They keep trying to grab more power. A judge just shot them down in Virginia over storm water run off.
Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia | Fox News
Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.
Here are some sources that won't make you wet your pants in fear:
Judge in Va. rules EPA overstepped authority - SFGate
EPA Coal Mine Water Rules Struck Down By Federal Judge
So, instead of acknowledging that the government you worship overstepped its authority, you whine like a little bitch about the source.This is the problem with the EPA. They keep trying to grab more power. A judge just shot them down in Virginia over storm water run off.
Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia | Fox News
Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.
Here are some sources that won't make you wet your pants in fear:
Judge in Va. rules EPA overstepped authority - SFGate
EPA Coal Mine Water Rules Struck Down By Federal Judge
And the huge dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico caused by ag runoff due to corn raised for ethanol production.With one toxic waste site for every 300 Americans, you could look at the EPA that way.
You could also be reasonable and notice that Gov. Perry once was considered a moderate, before moving to the right with all his nonsense to impress the Teabagger crowd for his political gain. Of course, you all knew that because no one can fool your kind!
Only the wingnuts think the EPA is strict.
What percentage of our nuclear facilities don't have radioactive tritium in the ground water below?
If someone is doing a very large project, you would think in the over 42 years after President Nixon proposed it and the EPA started operation that someone would figure out the rules and plan ahead for an Environmental Impact Report. Nixon proposed the EPA after the Cuyahoga River, which runs into Lake Erie "caught fire" and the Santa Barbara oil spill.
Cuyahoga River of Cleveland, Ohio, "catching fire"
Funny how you damn the oil companies for their environmental damage but turn a blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of birds killed by windmill companies...eh Lucy?
Oh, and the net energy loss ethanol production represents, too.
They don't mind environmental damage when their patrons profit from it.
Coming from a sissy bedwetter like you, that's rich.Why is it you have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate you're nothing but a little bitch when someone criticizes your Dear Reader?Why is it right-wingers have nothing better to do than get on the internet and demonstrate to the world that they entirely lack good judgment? I was a conservative back in the Goldwater days and I didn't act like you clowns.
Man up, Zippy. Not everyone worships your little tin god. And you can't make us, no matter how many tantrums you throw.
Here is the history, so explain why you bring up Obama. The EPA and all those laws were passed by Congress, long before any present administrations and the EPA has many mandates from Congress. The EPA was proposed and started operation in 1970 after the Santa Barbara oil spill and the Cuyahoga River catching on fire.
I've already posted an article where the EPA was being sued by many states for not regulating mercury emissions by power plants. The point is the EPA is always getting sued, this way or that way. The Supreme Court decided that the EPA did have the right to regulate CO2 as a pollutant, but some stupid states tried to challenge that decision and Texas wouldn't even set up it's own state agency. Texas and Virginia took it to federal court and lost, of course, because a Federal Judge knows how to read a Supreme Court decision and laws written by Congress. You waste all that state money over something motivated by the political ambitions of wormy politicians and then you cry about Obama. Do you really think the President micro-manages the EPA?
Texas could have just saved the money, did nothing and eventually the EPA would step in like they have now done. Other states thought it wise to set up their own system for permits, but Texas always has to demonstate it's educational system.
You ought to hear yourselves crying about having a law you don't agree with, but listen to something else for a change! Who has ever lived in this or any country and not found laws they don't agree with? Why are you right-wingers such crybabies? Grow the hell up!
So, instead of acknowledging that the government you worship overstepped its authority, you whine like a little bitch about the source.Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.
Here are some sources that won't make you wet your pants in fear:
Judge in Va. rules EPA overstepped authority - SFGate
EPA Coal Mine Water Rules Struck Down By Federal Judge
I don't perceive any overstep, I'm confident higher courts will confirm this and overrule the radical virginia judicial attempt to legislate from the bench upon appeal.
Obama stopped the rising of the seas, remember?So, instead of acknowledging that the government you worship overstepped its authority, you whine like a little bitch about the source.Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.
Here are some sources that won't make you wet your pants in fear:
Judge in Va. rules EPA overstepped authority - SFGate
EPA Coal Mine Water Rules Struck Down By Federal Judge
I wonder if you even know what county in Virginia is in that article.
There is a great victory for Virginia. That runoff isn't just water and it really screws up those creeks. These aren't creeks like in the mountains, they are estuary creeks that supply the food chain for what was once one of the most productive fishing areas in the world. Those creeks then flow into the Potomac River. How many people in that area use herbicides and insecticides on their lawns? The water around those kind of Creeks doesn't flow right to the Chesapeake Bay, they flow into a tidal marsh that supports the food chain.
Unless things are drastically changed, they won't have to worry about runoff in the future, because that area will be underwater.
And the huge dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico caused by ag runoff due to corn raised for ethanol production.Funny how you damn the oil companies for their environmental damage but turn a blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of birds killed by windmill companies...eh Lucy?
Oh, and the net energy loss ethanol production represents, too.
They don't mind environmental damage when their patrons profit from it.
Another right-winger lying his ass off! How much of total agriculture using nitrogen and phosphorus that flows into the Mississippi is involved in making ethanol? Well, you don't have to worry about the Mississippi, it's dried up, so when you are paying more for your food, keep trying to get us to import more foreign oil, too. Show them your posts and maybe they'll give you a discount!
This is the problem with the EPA. They keep trying to grab more power. A judge just shot them down in Virginia over storm water run off.
Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia | Fox News
Right there is a big part of the problem, you are treating Fox News as a source of valid information instead of the vacuous entertainment designed to attract viewers who are likely to support its advertisers, like it is designed to be accepted.