Discussion in 'Environment' started by toomuchtime_, Jun 29, 2009.
EPA May Have Suppressed Report Skeptical Of Global Warming - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
May have? We know they have done it several times, like all government organizations, whoever bribes them best will get the "results" they want.
Well of course they did. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, this topic has nothing to do with global warming, climate change (as if the climate has ever been static. Although I did hear one Democrat on CSPAN last week say the the climate was in perfect equilibrium and even a change of a degree or two could be catastrophic), nor is it about the environment.
It is about one thing: CONTROL
The report finds that EPA, by adopting the United Nations’ 2007 “Fourth Assessment” report, is relying on outdated research and is ignoring major new developments. Those developments include a continued decline in global temperatures, a new consensus that future hurricanes will not be more frequent or intense, and new findings that water vapor will moderate, rather than exacerbate, temperature.
New data also indicate that ocean cycles are probably the most important single factor in explaining temperature fluctuations, though solar cycles may play a role as well, and that reliable satellite data undercut the likelihood of endangerment from greenhouse gases. All of this demonstrates EPA should independently analyze the science, rather than just adopt the conclusions of outside organizations.
The whole report is available in .pdf format on the site, I had a heck of a time getting it to load sometimes but was an interesting read. It seems that if this report would have made it into the climate change debate then we would not be talking about this at the moment and it sort of shoots down the bbasic premise for the bill.
Hmmm...I'm guessing you won't hear from many global warming junkies on this post. Can't blame them though. Why would they stick their chin out to get clobbered again.
Poor Al...he must be really pissed. It's a good thing he got his book sold and his movie produced before the real inconvenient truth was discovered.
This is a really interesting video i will warn everone up front ITS LONG!! but before they jump on the bandwagon of cap and trade and automatically think the sky is falling it might be worth it to get some more opinions...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s]YouTube - The Great Global Warming Swindle - Produced by WAGTV[/ame]
This thing has really gotten out of hand - and hopefully enough Americans will WAKE UP to the fact that our current government is attempting the most invasive increasing of federal power in the last 80 years.
This collective statist mindset is the most dire threat to our nation since WWII.
Cap n Trade combined with nationalized health care...God Help Us.
And make no mistake - Bush Jr. set this thing in motion.
Obama has just taken the ball and is running faster with it...
A 38 year scientist veteran of the EPA was just on Fox stating that we have relied too heavily on the U.N and not done our own research on the cause of global warming. He stated that there is no evidence of humans causing global warming, when he issued his report, he recieved an e-mail that this would not support the administration's policy and more or less shut up. He stated that things are tense where he works and that of last night he still had a job.
Wasn't the U.N heavily involved in convincing the world of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction???? Hmm, could this cap and trade bill be Obama's weapon of mass destruction to the American economy.
A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.
The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming.
"He came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a global warming skeptic, told FOX News, saying he's ordered an investigation. "We're going to expose it."
The controversy comes after the House of Representatives passed a landmark bill to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, one that Inhofe said will be "dead on arrival" in the Senate despite President Obama's energy adviser voicing confidence in the measure.
According to internal e-mails that have been made public by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Carlin's boss told him in March that his material would not be incorporated into a broader EPA finding and ordered Carlin to stop working on the climate change issue. The draft EPA finding released in April lists six greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, that the EPA says threaten public health and welfare.
An EPA official told FOXNews.com on Monday that Carlin, who is an economist -- not a scientist -- included "no original research" in his report. The official said that Carlin "has not been muzzled in the agency at all," but stressed that his report was entirely "unsolicited."
"It was something that he did on his own," the official said. "Though he was not qualified, his manager indulged him and allowed him on agency time to draft up ... a set of comments."
Despite the EPA official's remarks, Carlin told FOXNews.com on Monday that his boss, National Center for Environmental Economics Director Al McGartland, appeared to be pressured into reassigning him.
Carlin said he doesn't know whether the White House intervened to suppress his report but claimed it's clear "they would not be happy about it if they knew about it," and that McGartland seemed to be feeling pressure from somewhere up the chain of command.
Carlin said McGartland told him he had to pull him off the climate change issue.
"It was reassigning you or losing my job, and I didn't want to lose my job," Carlin said, paraphrasing what he claimed were McGartland's comments to him. "My inference (was) that he was receiving some sort of higher-level pressure."
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