Toro
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la liga is back in business.
but serie a is on strike.
ha!
bundesliga is on schedule.
I enjoy the bundesliga.
Good to see la liga will be playing again.
Serie A can stay on strike indefinitely...
i agree. a lot.
[Both ManU and Liverpool don't have big debts because of losses incurred at the clubs. They have - or had in Liverpool's case since the club absolved it's debts through the courts - large debts because their owners foisted a huge amount of debt on the clubs to buy them. It wasn't because they were taking on big debts to fund losses to buy players with reckless abandon like ManCity and Chelsea. At the operating level, both Liverpool and ManU generated profits - £30 million and £50 million respectively. Chelsea have yet to make a profit since Roman bought the club, incurring losses of about £300 million in total. ManCity lost something like £100 million last year. ManCity has no debt because the sugar daddy owner eats the losses. The debts at Chelsea are to Roman himself, who will just write them off.
It is what it is, but the FFP rules came into being precisely because of firms like Chelsea and ManCity.
[Both ManU and Liverpool don't have big debts because of losses incurred at the clubs. They have - or had in Liverpool's case since the club absolved it's debts through the courts - large debts because their owners foisted a huge amount of debt on the clubs to buy them. It wasn't because they were taking on big debts to fund losses to buy players with reckless abandon like ManCity and Chelsea. At the operating level, both Liverpool and ManU generated profits - £30 million and £50 million respectively. Chelsea have yet to make a profit since Roman bought the club, incurring losses of about £300 million in total. ManCity lost something like £100 million last year. ManCity has no debt because the sugar daddy owner eats the losses. The debts at Chelsea are to Roman himself, who will just write them off.
It is what it is, but the FFP rules came into being precisely because of firms like Chelsea and ManCity.
Do you know the legend of King Knut the Great? He tried to command the waves to stop breaking on the shore. I think the FFP rules will prove just as effective.
Personally, while I think the new rules have merit, I would like to see UEFA and FIFA addressing two more pressing issues: corruption within their own ranks and cheating on the field, especially by the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and South American players. THOSE TWO topics are bringing the game into greater disrepute than wealthy owners throwing their cash around. Which is the greater disgrace, Manchester City spending a ton of money, legally btw, or the decisions of the awarding of the World Cup being bought using a corrupted voting system? WC in Qatar in mid-summer ffs, now that it has been proved that their main man was buying up votes with cash.But with a Frenchman in charge and Ligue 1 second-rate, it could have staying power.
We didn't. This is a thread about football. If you want to talk 'soccer', start your own.
It's 'soccer' here, and it's boring as hell. All this "beautiful game" nonsense is pure bullshit. Nothing 'beautiful' about some people jogging for two hours, pretending to get knocked down now and then, and maybe - MAYBE - scoring once during the whole time. No wonder the Europeans are always rioting at these 'games,' they've got nothing else to occupy their attention.
Nobody cares if you think soccer is boring.
[Both ManU and Liverpool don't have big debts because of losses incurred at the clubs. They have - or had in Liverpool's case since the club absolved it's debts through the courts - large debts because their owners foisted a huge amount of debt on the clubs to buy them. It wasn't because they were taking on big debts to fund losses to buy players with reckless abandon like ManCity and Chelsea. At the operating level, both Liverpool and ManU generated profits - £30 million and £50 million respectively. Chelsea have yet to make a profit since Roman bought the club, incurring losses of about £300 million in total. ManCity lost something like £100 million last year. ManCity has no debt because the sugar daddy owner eats the losses. The debts at Chelsea are to Roman himself, who will just write them off.
It is what it is, but the FFP rules came into being precisely because of firms like Chelsea and ManCity.
Do you know the legend of King Knut the Great? He tried to command the waves to stop breaking on the shore. I think the FFP rules will prove just as effective.
Could be. We'll see. Money talks.
But with a Frenchman in charge and Ligue 1 second-rate, it could have staying power.
Personally, while I think the new rules have merit, I would like to see UEFA and FIFA addressing two more pressing issues: corruption within their own ranks and cheating on the field, especially by the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and South American players. THOSE TWO topics are bringing the game into greater disrepute than wealthy owners throwing their cash around. Which is the greater disgrace, Manchester City spending a ton of money, legally btw, or the decisions of the awarding of the World Cup being bought using a corrupted voting system? WC in Qatar in mid-summer ffs, now that it has been proved that their main man was buying up votes with cash.But with a Frenchman in charge and Ligue 1 second-rate, it could have staying power.
!!!!!!!!Toro hate to tell you but Man U are $800 mill in debt..thetor
!!!!!!!!Toro hate to tell you but Man U are $800 mill in debt..thetor
Since I'm a Liverpool fan, that makes me smile!
But they took on the debt so the Glazers could buy the club. It was debt free when they bought it. And, at least until this year, ManU had made money in the transfer market over the past three years. ManU hadn't invested the proceeds from the sale of Ronaldo until this year. Same with Liverpool. Until John Henry took over the club last year, Liverpool had made a net profit in the transfer market over the past three years. And the operating side of both clubs - net of transfers and interest payments - are very profitable.
What is boring though are all these now rich premier league clubs,who pay far too much for players and often have totally corrupt owners.
Me I'm a Brighton and Hove Albion supporter through thick and thin.........I have met a lot of Man City,Chelsea and Liverpool supporters lately who have never been to an actual game.......what I call synthetic supporters of synthetic teams,you know the ones who have to buy any trophies that they might win.
Apart from Man U,who have the Greatest Manager in the World and have done for 30 years.I am not a Man U supporter but I do appreciate Brilliance and Sir Alex is that.!!!!!
thetor
What glasshouse is that to which you refer? I'm not aware of Britain or Spain having won a major sporting event through corrupt voting. I could be wrong, of course.Yeah its bad the FIFA corruption,but so was the underhand bribery the US used to secure the Olympics in Utah and others...........you must have forgotten Andaluz that you live in a glass house...just saying..thetor
What glasshouse is that to which you refer? I'm not aware of Britain or Spain having won a major sporting event through corrupt voting. I could be wrong, of course.Yeah its bad the FIFA corruption,but so was the underhand bribery the US used to secure the Olympics in Utah and others...........you must have forgotten Andaluz that you live in a glass house...just saying..thetor
Damn! I was answering you and just missed City's fourth against Spurs. Boy, are our lads looking good?!
What glasshouse is that to which you refer? I'm not aware of Britain or Spain having won a major sporting event through corrupt voting. I could be wrong, of course.Yeah its bad the FIFA corruption,but so was the underhand bribery the US used to secure the Olympics in Utah and others...........you must have forgotten Andaluz that you live in a glass house...just saying..thetor
Damn! I was answering you and just missed City's fourth against Spurs. Boy, are our lads looking good?!
not as good as Man U
Bye bye Arsenal ....
Arsenal are just dreadful.
I have always admired Arsenal, but they are getting ripped to shreds.
In the last 15 EPL matches, they have won 2 and drawn 7.
They will be mid-table unless they dramatically improve.
And Wenger should pay up and get Cahill FFS.