Ending health insurance for 13 million to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?

[RealDave]

That is giving people a choice instead of forcing them to buy a for-profit product.

What an IDIOT.........eliminate the mandate, and the money for subsidies will NOT be there....

Eliminate the subsidies and MILLIONS of people cannot purchase anything.....

Your ilk will have to live with the anger of those without HC insurance......Sure, go for it and see what happens.

These unconstitutional payments go to the insurance companies for being forced to lower costs. It will be up to the monopolies folks like you created, on how it affects individuals.

Well, if I could paste a sticker on your forehead that said do not treat unless paid in advance, then I would be for it.

But no, you would get drunk & walk in front of a bus & get treated at MY expense. So fuck you assholes.

What kind of person does not protect their family? And don't pretend you have the money.

What kind of persons have babies they can't afford?

What kind of persons think they don't have to work to get money?

What kind of persons think I should pay for their household for everything?

I get it. What is the income level you want to make in order for people have children?

What if they have a job, have a family, then have a medical condition or lose their jobs. Are you coming to take away their kids?

 

[Skull Pilot]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

No one is ending health insurance. The mandate and the tax penalty was done away with that is all.

So those estimated 13 million will be choosing not to buy health insurance no one is taking it away from them.

The more relevant question is why do you oppose people making their own choices?

Funny chit from the anti-abortion crowd.

Again, I would not care but then we toss their sick asses in the street when they can't pay for their treatments.

I have a neighbor that did not have coverage, had a hearty attack & her total bill was $450K. She paid nothing.,. But rather we all did.

Many choose not to buy health insurance relying on the idea that ER's will take them in.

Is that a choice you think is fair to those who buy insurance?

I have no problem with abortion. (Let me stand back while your head explodes). I have no problem with same sex marriage ( again let me get out of the head exploding blast zone)

And you forget to realize that the 13 million number is not a fact. It is conjecture and it's probably as accurate as the predictions in the Star or Enquirer.

 

[nat4900]

Many choose not to buy health insurance relying on the idea that ER's will take them in.

Its always a "good thing" for some folks to try to get cancer treatment, dialysis and diabetes treatments within a hospital's ER lobby.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured.

Only if they choose to stop buying insurance.
How many who are uninsured will stop getting fined?

How many will run to the ER for treatment for which thy won't pay?

Do you expect insurance companies to pay for shit you got before you had insurance? Who will pay for that?

How many will run to the ER for treatment for which thy won't pay?

It's true, millions of illegal immigrants are a huge drain on our healthcare system.
Send them home.

 

[BluesLegend]

Liberals: Trump is taking away our free government handouts.

Trump: Get a job losers, stop mooching off other taxpayers.

 

[jc456]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

who exactly are the 13 million you're referring to?

It doesnt matter.

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

Let's look rationally at what you are saying. You're saying that ending the mandate will throw 13 million out of health insurance. You're then intimating that those same people will be desperately trying to get insurance but won't be able to because the awful, horrible meanies won't let them.

But what's changed? We no longer force people to buy insurance they can't afford to use, but they're still able to buy it if they want it. Your position in essence boils down to people are so stupid that they won't buy insurance they desperately want unless they're forced to by law.

Isn't that kind of dumb?

A lot of the exams & testing is free.

You can choose a plan with a high deductible - say $6K. A drop in the bucket if you have a hearty attack & get $400K surgery. A surgery you would have to pay for if they did not have insurance.

Or you choose a plan with a low deductible.

You idiots really need to quit lying about the ACA.

First hand experience? Second hand? Or something you heard?

People I know have had to buy obamadon'tcare insurance and found it to cost more than it was worth.

You can go on Healthcare,gov without signing in & review the plans in your zip code. If you have not done this, I would suggest you STFU because you don't know shit.

Go on there & set up your "family" Look at an older couple say in their 50's making $60K a year.

See what your subsidy would be & look at the plans available.

You can get a bronze plan with higher deductibles or a silver or gold plan. The ones I looked at this year had a plan with $1,000 deductible. In the past, I saw plans with no deductibles to $500 to $1000 & higher.

These will be more affordable than just going out in the market.

If you get insurance through your employer, this is not meant for these people.

It doesnt matter.

then how do you know?

 

[jc456]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

No one is ending health insurance. The mandate and the tax penalty were done away with that is all.

So those estimated 13 million will be choosing not to buy health insurance no one is taking it away from them.

The more relevant question is why do you oppose people making their own choices?

again, the left is for choice when they aren't.

 

[jc456]

That is giving people a choice instead of forcing them to buy a for-profit product.

What an IDIOT.........eliminate the mandate, and the money for subsidies will NOT be there....

Eliminate the subsidies and MILLIONS of people cannot purchase anything.....

Your ilk will have to live with the anger of those without HC insurance......Sure, go for it and see what happens.

These unconstitutional payments go to the insurance companies for being forced to lower costs. It will be up to the monopolies folks like you created, on how it affects individuals.

Well, if I could paste a sticker on your forehead that said do not treat unless paid in advance, then I would be for it.

But no, you would get drunk & walk in front of a bus & get treated at MY expense. So fuck you assholes.

What kind of person does not protect their family? And don't pretend you have the money.

What kind of persons have babies they can't afford?

What kind of persons think they don't have to work to get money?

What kind of persons think I should pay for their household for everything?

I get it. What is the income level you want to make in order for people have children?

What if they have a job, have a family, then have a medical condition or lose their jobs. Are you coming to take away their kids?

what's that got to do with what I asked?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That is giving people a choice instead of forcing them to buy a for-profit product.

What an IDIOT.........eliminate the mandate, and the money for subsidies will NOT be there....

Eliminate the subsidies and MILLIONS of people cannot purchase anything......

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

 

[nat4900]

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

Just wait for the bodies to pile up.....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

Just wait for the bodies to pile up.....

Of course, because we all know prior to 2011 bodies were lining the streets all over the country.



You people lie through your teeth so much that I don't think you can even tell the difference anymore between the truth and your delusions.

 

[easyt65]

Oooohhhh, those evil Republicans....they destroyed the existing health care system, lied their asses off, rammed a minority-supported piece of socialist agenda-driven legislation into law against the majority will of the people, rammed mandates up the other end of the American people, and exempted themselves from it....

Oh wait, that was Obama and the Democrats.

Snowflakes, like the OP, continue to bitch and moan about Obama's and Democrats' health care, still seeking to blame the continually deteriorating POS on the Republicans.

Their continuing to do so remains equivalent to the Captain who ran the Exon Valdez on the rocks and caused the massive oil spill blaming the clean up crew for the disaster / not cleaning it up fast enough.

 

[RealDave]

What an IDIOT.........eliminate the mandate, and the money for subsidies will NOT be there....

Eliminate the subsidies and MILLIONS of people cannot purchase anything.....

Your ilk will have to live with the anger of those without HC insurance......Sure, go for it and see what happens.

These unconstitutional payments go to the insurance companies for being forced to lower costs. It will be up to the monopolies folks like you created, on how it affects individuals.

Well, if I could paste a sticker on your forehead that said do not treat unless paid in advance, then I would be for it.

But no, you would get drunk & walk in front of a bus & get treated at MY expense. So fuck you assholes.

What kind of person does not protect their family? And don't pretend you have the money.

What kind of persons have babies they can't afford?

What kind of persons think they don't have to work to get money?

What kind of persons think I should pay for their household for everything?

I get it. What is the income level you want to make in order for people have children?

What if they have a job, have a family, then have a medical condition or lose their jobs. Are you coming to take away their kids?

what's that got to do with what I asked?

So it was not you that just bitched about poor people having children?

really?

 

[RealDave]

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

Just wait for the bodies to pile up.....

Of course, because we all know prior to 2011 bodies were lining the streets all over the country.



You people lie through your teeth so much that I don't think you can even tell the difference anymore between the truth and your delusions.

If you think that will not kill people then you even dumber than I thought & that is pretty fucking dumb.

 

[Lastamender]

Nobody is ending health insurance for 13M people, you damn liar

Senate Republicans have proposed eliminating the ACA’s requirement that all Americans have health insurance or pay a penalty. By getting rid of this, the CBO estimates 13 million fewer people would have insurance a decade from now.

What gives you the impression the CBO is right?

 

[whitehall]

When are hypocrite lefties going to stop depending on political cliches and start thinking for themselves? It's fake news concocted by hypocrite democrats who are enjoying the perks of healthy corporations and a roaring economy while they are busy fooling their ignorant constituents into voting for stagnation and political unrest.

 

[Lastamender]

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

Just wait for the bodies to pile up.....

Of course, because we all know prior to 2011 bodies were lining the streets all over the country.



You people lie through your teeth so much that I don't think you can even tell the difference anymore between the truth and your delusions.

If you think that will not kill people then you even dumber than I thought & that is pretty fucking dumb.

How about remembering that when other things are discussed like illegals or Muslims, or don't you think they kill people. That are also known facts not predictions.

The hypocrisy reeks.

 

[RealDave]

Oooohhhh, those evil Republicans....they destroyed the existing health care system, lied their asses off, rammed a minority-supported piece of socialist agenda-driven legislation into law against the majority will of the people, rammed mandates up the other end of the American people, and exempted themselves from it....

Oh wait, that was Obama and the Democrats.

Snowflakes, like the OP, continue to bitch and moan about Obama's and Democrats' health care, still seeking to blame the continually deteriorating POS on the Republicans.

Their continuing to do so remains equivalent to the Captain who ran the Exon Valdez on the rocks and caused the massive oil spill blaming the clean up crew for the disaster / not cleaning it up fast enough.

Wow, is there any bullshit lie you don;t believe? Oh wait, you're a Trump fan.

When the Republicans change the ACA to take way aspects, then they own it.

The Democrats were driving that oil tanker & then you asswipes took over & crashed it.

This year, T-Rump ended those payments to insurance companies increasing the cost of health insurance, the Orange Asswsipe shorted the sign up time & slashed efforts to get people signed up. The Republicans effiot to repeal caused rates to rise due to uncertainty.

You own it Dumbass.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

How do you "pay" for tax cuts?

Middle class tax cuts.....................TEMPORARY
Conglomerates' tax cuts................PERMANENT

The former WILL have to pay for the latter unless more debt (than the already proposed $1.5 TRILLION) is incurred.

Get a grown up to explain the above to you.

You need a grown up to explain that taxes are the way the government gets people to pay for free stuff. You don't pay for tax cuts.

When you cut taxers & not spending it created debt. Debt that you pay for.

Republicans just cut taxes & put it on the credit card. How did those Bush tax cuts work out? Recession.

You people can't teach anything because you are all morons.

Actually, it led to increased gov't revenues. Want to know how I know that? Obama told me. He signed his name to a report showing it.

 

[RealDave]

When are hypocrite lefties going to stop depending on political cliches and start thinking for themselves? It's fake news concocted by hypocrite democrats who are enjoying the perks of healthy corporations and a roaring economy while they are busy fooling their ignorant constituents into voting for stagnation and political unrest.

Fae News? Yep, we know exactly who you are. Everyone is lying except for Trump. I get it.