Electric Cars Great....Indoors

[RGR]

That is the one your wife drives? you are a liar, that is a picture you downloaded off the internet.

Get real. Hers is an impact blue, that color, Ford Fusion Energi, Titanium, 2014. Feel free to look up your own picture to see what it looks like if you don't like the example I provided.

I doubt you own one at all, you or your wife, why else would post a picture of anything but your own car?

Why would I post a picture of hers when they are all over the internet? It is sitting in the garage charging right now, waiting for a late night non-CO2 emitting trip to the movies! How many movies can you drive too, without emitting CO2 and doing your best to help save the planet?

Yea, take some pics of the warning labels on the battery so we can see what they say. That way we can see if you are a liar.

Oh please, like I couldn't find those on the internet and have you pretend all over again she doesn't own one. I'll fill it up with gasoline this evening (if only to offset condensation in the tank after like MONTHS of not emitting CO2), maybe tomorrow we can discuss how much you don't care about the environment because, you know, you just don't care?

 

[elektra]

But hey, enjoy your Socialist Obama Car, that everyone pays for but you. We will be paying the National Debt off forever to pay for your luxury electric car.

Her car is a Ford. An individual economic decision involving her money doesn't have anything to do with Socialism. But free fuel provided at work sure mattered! Capitalism at its best to attract employees!

Luxury Electric Cars, they add CO2 to the atmosphere as well, in the construction, the constant manufacturing of all things "green". The biggest scam in history.

You are a fool.

It is socialism, you got a tax break for buying the car, Ford gets tax breaks for making the electric car. The company that installed the electric charging station got a tax break. Obama taxing us and giving that money back to you in the form of tax breaks is socialism.

 

[elektra]

All the cars smoke the Tesla, the Tesla only wins a very narrowly defined race. My Toyota Tundra will smoke the Tesla. Lets race 10 times, 1/4 mile drags. I guarantee I win more than half.

What a wanker!! How about 10 races, 1/4 mile, without emitting CO2? How about a 100 mile road course race, without emitting CO2? Your truck only competes in the "big ugly dirty CO2 emissions" class, it is like winning the "most retarded person in the class" award...no one wants to win the race you are talking about.

CO2 is produced by electric cars, it takes more energy to charge them then if you simply burned that fuel in a more efficient gas powered car. Using fossil fuels to first make electricity, then charging the battery, involves losses. Your idea that electric cars do not pollute is one great big fat lie. Denial, really.

 

[elektra]

That is the one your wife drives? you are a liar, that is a picture you downloaded off the internet.

Get real. Hers is an impact blue, that color, Ford Fusion Energi, Titanium, 2014. Feel free to look up your own picture to see what it looks like if you don't like the example I provided.

I doubt you own one at all, you or your wife, why else would post a picture of anything but your own car?

Why would I post a picture of hers when they are all over the internet? It is sitting in the garage charging right now, waiting for a late night non-CO2 emitting trip to the movies! How many movies can you drive too, without emitting CO2 and doing your best to help save the planet?

Yea, take some pics of the warning labels on the battery so we can see what they say. That way we can see if you are a liar.

Oh please, like I couldn't find those on the internet and have you pretend all over again she doesn't own one. I'll fill it up with gasoline this evening (if only to offset condensation in the tank after like MONTHS of not emitting CO2), maybe tomorrow we can discuss how much you don't care about the environment because, you know, you just don't care?

No pics of "your car"? Charging? That creates CO2, if you really owned an electric car you would be able to admit that creating electricity creates CO2. Charging electric cars creates more CO2 than simply burning gas in a regular old fashion car.

This idea that Democrats are saving the World by going green is one big con job that the idiots have fallen for. CO2 free cars? It is as if they are powered by orange trees.

 

[Wyatt earp]

That is the one your wife drives? you are a liar, that is a picture you downloaded off the internet.

Get real. Hers is an impact blue, that color, Ford Fusion Energi, Titanium, 2014. Feel free to look up your own picture to see what it looks like if you don't like the example I provided.

I doubt you own one at all, you or your wife, why else would post a picture of anything but your own car?

Why would I post a picture of hers when they are all over the internet? It is sitting in the garage charging right now, waiting for a late night non-CO2 emitting trip to the movies! How many movies can you drive too, without emitting CO2 and doing your best to help save the planet?

Yea, take some pics of the warning labels on the battery so we can see what they say. That way we can see if you are a liar.

Oh please, like I couldn't find those on the internet and have you pretend all over again she doesn't own one. I'll fill it up with gasoline this evening (if only to offset condensation in the tank after like MONTHS of not emitting CO2), maybe tomorrow we can discuss how much you don't care about the environment because, you know, you just don't care?

What read your post over and carefully

Do you comprehend and understand what charges the car?

 

[Wyatt earp]

That is the one your wife drives? you are a liar, that is a picture you downloaded off the internet.

Get real. Hers is an impact blue, that color, Ford Fusion Energi, Titanium, 2014. Feel free to look up your own picture to see what it looks like if you don't like the example I provided.

I doubt you own one at all, you or your wife, why else would post a picture of anything but your own car?

Why would I post a picture of hers when they are all over the internet? It is sitting in the garage charging right now, waiting for a late night non-CO2 emitting trip to the movies! How many movies can you drive too, without emitting CO2 and doing your best to help save the planet?

Yea, take some pics of the warning labels on the battery so we can see what they say. That way we can see if you are a liar.

Oh please, like I couldn't find those on the internet and have you pretend all over again she doesn't own one. I'll fill it up with gasoline this evening (if only to offset condensation in the tank after like MONTHS of not emitting CO2), maybe tomorrow we can discuss how much you don't care about the environment because, you know, you just don't care?

No pics of "your car"? Charging? That creates CO2, if you really owned an electric car you would be able to admit that creating electricity creates CO2. Charging electric cars creates more CO2 than simply burning gas in a regular old fashion car.

This idea that Democrats are saving the World by going green is one big con job that the idiots have fallen for. CO2 free cars? It is as if they are powered by orange trees.

Another child on here

 

[Wyatt earp]

That is the one your wife drives? you are a liar, that is a picture you downloaded off the internet.

Get real. Hers is an impact blue, that color, Ford Fusion Energi, Titanium, 2014. Feel free to look up your own picture to see what it looks like if you don't like the example I provided.

I doubt you own one at all, you or your wife, why else would post a picture of anything but your own car?

Why would I post a picture of hers when they are all over the internet? It is sitting in the garage charging right now, waiting for a late night non-CO2 emitting trip to the movies! How many movies can you drive too, without emitting CO2 and doing your best to help save the planet?

Yea, take some pics of the warning labels on the battery so we can see what they say. That way we can see if you are a liar.

Oh please, like I couldn't find those on the internet and have you pretend all over again she doesn't own one. I'll fill it up with gasoline this evening (if only to offset condensation in the tank after like MONTHS of not emitting CO2), maybe tomorrow we can discuss how much you don't care about the environment because, you know, you just don't care?

No pics of "your car"? Charging? That creates CO2, if you really owned an electric car you would be able to admit that creating electricity creates CO2. Charging electric cars creates more CO2 than simply burning gas in a regular old fashion car.

This idea that Democrats are saving the World by going green is one big con job that the idiots have fallen for. CO2 free cars? It is as if they are powered by orange trees.

God damn so many lies.. By that child it's not even funny
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[RGR]

It is socialism, you got a tax break for buying the car, Ford gets tax breaks for making the electric car.

You are ignorant, and force yet, CHOOSE to be so. It is the wife's car, and no, she got no tax break. She bought it used, with like 11K miles on it, and therefore received none of the tax benefits that generally come with NEW next generation transport. Ford may have gotten a break, but that is a beef you can take up with them, the wife just got a good deal on a car that functions as EV for months on end, but she, or I, can also take on a classic American road trip or, this coming summer, a drive to the beach.

And will still win a 1/4 mile race, multiple times, against some CO2 emitting "wins retard contest of the world" obsolete monstrosity.

The company that installed the electric charging station got a tax break.

What charging station? The 120V household current she charges in at home? Otherwise known as an electrical outlet, they are all over the house, maybe you've seen them before? Somewhere? Or maybe you mean at work where she gets free fuel? She doesn't care about someone else's tax break because she didn't get them, if someone else did, good for them, no different than you getting a tax break, I'm betting you wouldn't turn down a mortgage deduction or standard deduction any more than anyone else. Why the hypocrisy about tax breaks?

Obama taxing us and giving that money back to you in the form of tax breaks is socialism.

Obama doesn't tax anyone, GovCo does. We know this because it was also happening before he was elected. Now that Trump is elected, we are still being taxed. And he won't ever sign an executive order pretending to stop that. So neither the wife or I got any money back for buying a pretty nice American manufactured car that just doesn't happen to need gasoline to get the wife back and forth to work, 5 days a week, hot or cold.

I realize you are probably envious that your transport just keeps emitting CO2 and causes constant trips to the gasoline extortion store, but you can solve that problem. Certainly at least then you could whine about the next generation transport from a position of information rather than making up things about non-liquid fueled transport.

 

[RGR]

CO2 is produced by electric cars, it takes more energy to charge them then if you simply burned that fuel in a more efficient gas powered car.

Gas powered cars are less efficient. You really should think about some education on this topic prior to utilizing flat earth arguments to justify your stuck in the mud thinking about your own personal transport choices.

Using fossil fuels to first make electricity, then charging the battery, involves losses. Your idea that electric cars do not pollute is one great big fat lie. Denial, really.

About 30% of the local electricity used in my house, including used to fuel the car when it is in the garage, comes from either the panels on the roof of my state average of 10%+ wind fired generation. The rest of mostly cleaner burning natural gas. The burning natural gas involves making CO2, but the other 30% doesn't. Far better than your tail pipe emissions in your obsolete-mobile. And I never said "don't pollute", I said it doesn't emit CO2 when doing its job, taking the wife from here to there, day after day, for months on end. You could say the same, and LEARN something while participating in saving the world, if you would bother to learn...well...anything...

 

[elektra]

the wife just got a good deal on a car that functions as EV for months on end, but she, or I, can also take on a classic American road trip or, this coming summer, a drive to the beach.

I realize you are probably envious that your transport just keeps emitting CO2 and causes constant trips to the gasoline extortion store, but you can solve that problem. Certainly at least then you could whine about the next generation transport from a position of information rather than making up things about non-liquid fueled transport.

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Calling you a liar cause your story does not make sense, and because you won't post any pics, is hardly envious. You can take that Hybrid Fusion on a classic American road trip? What classic American Road trip is a 10 mile, or 21 mile round trip? The Fusion Hybrid you claim to own and drive months on end as an electric vehicle has a 21 mile range! I know you do not own one, otherwise you would not make such ridiculous claims.

2017 Ford® Fusion Energi Titanium Sedan | Model Highlights | Ford.com
EV Range 21 miles

 

[elektra]

About 30% of the local electricity used in my house, including used to fuel the car when it is in the garage, comes from either the panels on the roof of my state average of 10%+ wind fired generation. The rest of mostly cleaner burning natural gas. The burning natural gas involves making CO2, but the other 30% doesn't. Far better than your tail pipe emissions in your obsolete-mobile. And I never said "don't pollute", I said it doesn't emit CO2 when doing its job, taking the wife from here to there, day after day, for months on end. You could say the same, and LEARN something while participating in saving the world, if you would bother to learn...well...anything...

More lies, first and foremost you do not own an Electric Car. The car you posted a pic of is the Ford Fusion Hybrid that has a 21 mile range. I doubt you own the Ford Fusion in the picture you downloaded off the internet, beings how when challenged, you will not take pics of the car you own.

How old is your car, the battery range does decrease with age, so how far can she travel know, 18 miles? 10 miles? Seriously, what is the range of this magical hybrid that seems to operate counter to the claims Ford makes about the newest Fusion.

 

[RGR]

Calling you a liar cause your story does not make sense, and because you won't post any pics, is hardly envious.

Your ignorance has nothing to do with my truthfulness. And I've explained why there is no need to post pics, your inability to understand even such basics matches your ignorance apparently.

Like pics prove anything, how stupid can that claim of yours be, when we are talking about the internet?

You can take that Hybrid Fusion on a classic American road trip? What classic American Road trip is a 10 mile, or 21 mile round trip?

It is a Ford Fusion Energi, a gas/electric hybrid for sure, and as I've explained, the wife commutes for months on end, to and fro, I took it out for a lunch sandwich for lunch just this very day, and it goes on a road trip when you decide to run a full tank of gasoline through it and become a normal polluting car like you drive.

The Fusion Hybrid you claim to own and drive months on end as an electric vehicle has a 21 mile range! I know you do not own one, otherwise you would not make such ridiculous claims.

What claims? That the wife can use it for 6 months, 5 days a week, and never put gasoline in it? She has already done it. And I have also taken it on a road trip, to the top of Mount Washington this last summer as a matter of fact. Now, on that trip I polluted as much as you do when driving The rest of the time? Months commuting and dashing about suburbia without harming a molecule of gasoline, and the free fuel from the office doesn't hurt either!

 

[RGR]

More lies, first and foremost you do not own an Electric Car.

You are right, I don't own an electric car, the wife does. Do try and read AND comprehend a little better.

The car you posted a pic of is the Ford Fusion Hybrid that has a 21 mile range.

No it isn't. I posted a picture of a ford Fusion Energi, not the hybrid, the hybrid doesn't have any ridiculous 21 mile range...but the Energi does.

I doubt you own the Ford Fusion in the picture you downloaded off the internet, beings how when challenged, you will not take pics of the car you own.

You should doubt I own a Ford Fusion Energi, as I've told you its the wife's car. And pics...please...only a child doesn't know how easy it would be to round up any pic and pretend its mine, what are you, like 12?

How old is your car, the battery range does decrease with age, so how far can she travel know, 18 miles?

Her car is a 2014, acquired used. How far you can go on electric depends on the conditions. Roundtrip from the garage or office, she can consistently hit 19-22 miles, as long as she doesn't need to use the heater. If she has ICEed her way to the top of the continental divide, she can EV for 50 miles. I did the same thing on Mount Washington, ICEd to the top, charged it back up on the 7 or so mile descent, and then EVed out of the mountains for another 25 miles (there was more downhill along the way).

Last summer she commuted to and from work, we took no trips anywhere, 6 months with no stops at the middle east extortion stores!!! Bet you can't say that as you pollute your way to and from wherever!

 

[elektra]

More lies, first and foremost you do not own an Electric Car.

You are right, I don't own an electric car, the wife does. Do try and read AND comprehend a little better.

The car you posted a pic of is the Ford Fusion Hybrid that has a 21 mile range.

No it isn't. I posted a picture of a ford Fusion Energi, not the hybrid, the hybrid doesn't have any ridiculous 21 mile range...but the Energi does.

I doubt you own the Ford Fusion in the picture you downloaded off the internet, beings how when challenged, you will not take pics of the car you own.

You should doubt I own a Ford Fusion Energi, as I've told you its the wife's car. And pics...please...only a child doesn't know how easy it would be to round up any pic and pretend its mine, what are you, like 12?

How old is your car, the battery range does decrease with age, so how far can she travel know, 18 miles?

Her car is a 2014, acquired used. How far you can go on electric depends on the conditions. Roundtrip from the garage or office, she can consistently hit 19-22 miles, as long as she doesn't need to use the heater. If she has ICEed her way to the top of the continental divide, she can EV for 50 miles. I did the same thing on Mount Washington, ICEd to the top, charged it back up on the 7 or so mile descent, and then EVed out of the mountains for another 25 miles (there was more downhill along the way).

Last summer she commuted to and from work, we took no trips anywhere, 6 months with no stops at the middle east extortion stores!!! Bet you can't say that as you pollute your way to and from wherever!

21 mile range, on the battery, no more. A 3 year old electric car with a range of 21 miles, by now, I am sure, at best, it gets 15 miles per charge. Like I said, your story does not add up.

 

[elektra]

No it isn't. I posted a picture of a ford Fusion Energi, not the hybrid, the hybrid doesn't have any ridiculous 21 mile range...but the Energi does.

The Energi is a hybrid!!!!!!!!! It seems if you owned the Fusion Energi like you claimed then you would know it is a hybrid.

 

[RGR]

21 mile range, on the battery, no more.

The difference between your opinion on its range, and mine, is I've driven it farther than 21 miles, as I said, it depends. Running full heat in the winter, it is less than about 16 miles. Depending on where your starting and ending points are, it can be more than 40-50. The beauty of long downhill runs being that the car generates more power than it needs, so you can store energy until you need it to get over the next hill, and then it depends on whether or not you are generally losing elevation, or gaining it.

Of course I know this, and you do not, because this is the second EV in the family (I owned a Volt),, and you apparently haven't owned any of these next gen forms of transport.

A 3 year old electric car with a range of 21 miles, by now, I am sure, at best, it gets 15 miles per charge. Like I said, your story does not add up.

So far, the electric range hasn't decreased at all.

 

[RGR]

The Energi is a hybrid!!!!!!!!! It seems if you owned the Fusion Energi like you claimed then you would know it is a hybrid.

Fundamentally, there is only one major difference between a Fusion Hybrid and Fusion Energi, and that is the battery size and ability to charge it from house current. And then the Energi becomes an EV, for 20 miles at a time. It is why she got the thing, because she can use it as a pure EV around town, but it doesn't have the range or comfort limitations of the only EVs.

 

[blenkins90]

Honestly....electric cars are not going to save the world. The electricity has to come from somewhere...

 

[Old Rocks]

Both wind and solar are cheaper than fossil fuels on a delivered kilowatts basis.

 

[Desperado]

More lies, first and foremost you do not own an Electric Car.

You are right, I don't own an electric car, the wife does. Do try and read AND comprehend a little better.

The car you posted a pic of is the Ford Fusion Hybrid that has a 21 mile range.

No it isn't. I posted a picture of a ford Fusion Energi, not the hybrid, the hybrid doesn't have any ridiculous 21 mile range...but the Energi does.

I doubt you own the Ford Fusion in the picture you downloaded off the internet, beings how when challenged, you will not take pics of the car you own.

You should doubt I own a Ford Fusion Energi, as I've told you its the wife's car. And pics...please...only a child doesn't know how easy it would be to round up any pic and pretend its mine, what are you, like 12?

How old is your car, the battery range does decrease with age, so how far can she travel know, 18 miles?

Her car is a 2014, acquired used. How far you can go on electric depends on the conditions. Roundtrip from the garage or office, she can consistently hit 19-22 miles, as long as she doesn't need to use the heater. If she has ICEed her way to the top of the continental divide, she can EV for 50 miles. I did the same thing on Mount Washington, ICEd to the top, charged it back up on the 7 or so mile descent, and then EVed out of the mountains for another 25 miles (there was more downhill along the way).

Last summer she commuted to and from work, we took no trips anywhere, 6 months with no stops at the middle east extortion stores!!! Bet you can't say that as you pollute your way to and from wherever!

21 mile range, on the battery, no more. A 3 year old electric car with a range of 21 miles, by now, I am sure, at best, it gets 15 miles per charge. Like I said, your story does not add up.

An electric vehicle with a range of 21 miles is nothing more than an enclosed golf cart.