Electoral College Vote; Interesting Topic

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    Hi.

    As we all know, if no candidate gets 270 electoral college votes, the House of Representatives picks the next President.

    However, I assumed that the 435 House Members vote, it will be split among party lines, and they decide who is the President.

    WRONG!!!

    There are 50 votes, one per state.

    So if the state has a majority of Republican or Democratic congressmen and women, they will vote for either candidate but the State itself just gets one vote. So if you have a 34-0 GOP majority in Texas, that isn't 34 votes for the republican candidate for President, that is one vote.

    It would be interesting to see how it turns out this year. We all know the GOP has the majority in the House but does the majority cut across state lines or are they just have a massive plurality in a few states. It would be intriguing to have this civics lesson play out.

    The Senate chooses the VP. This is not done by state delegation, it is one person, one vote: So the Democrats would be able to install Joe Biden (if he's on the ballot) as the VP. If there is a deadlock in the Senate, there is a standing question about whether or not the VP can cast a deciding vote...in this case, a defacto vote for himself.

    Interestingly, if the House deadlocks 25 to 25 and can't come up with a President by 1/20 of the following year, Joe Biden--the Vice President-elect-- will be the acting President until the House can select a President.

    It won't happen in 2012 but if both the House and the Senate can't pick a POTUS or VPOTUS, the Speaker of the House becomes the acting President until the chambers can do their job. At that point, the new Senate and House will be seated (after 1/20) so the chance of a deadlocked House and and deadlock senate being maintained across 2 Congressional sessions is incredibly small.
     
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    has this ever happened?

    I don't recall this in history class.
     
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    Interesting thought...........got a link to a viable civics website to back this up?
     
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    seems we have been over estimated.

    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    The House has picked the POTUS twice according to Wiki. The Senate, once I believe. Never has the Speaker ever elevated to the presidency.
     
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    I missed 1 state, which I gave to the Dems, but it hardly matters...it came out 32 R - 17 D - 1 split evenly.
     
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    Electoral College | American Civics | Khan Academy

    I believe this will suffice. Wiki also has a lot of the same information.

    The part about whether the GOP majority would cut across all of the states is truly an open question I haven't researched. It would seem like it would. What it basically comes down to is whether or not the GOP state-by-state supremacy is in a majority of the states or not. If it is, the GOP candidate is in.

    If it isn't, it's very interesting. Some states have even numbers of electoral votes. Since each state has 2 senators, that means the number of house seats is even in those states. I wonder how many delegations are split... Like Maine for example...4 electoral votes means 2 senators, 2 congressmen/women. Minnesota has 8 seats in the house, 4 democrat and 4 republican. So it is pretty easy to envision MN not casting a vote. Curious how it would turn out if it ever came down to that.
     
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    Ahem. This vote is taken after the new members are seated. Biden would no longer be Vice president. Boehner would be the acting president until one is picked.
     
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    RealClearPolitics - 2010 Election Maps - House Final Results


    I think it's a pretty safe bet it does. ^^^^ That's a link to the final map for the 2010 house election.

    There are NO democrat reps from Alaska, Idaho,Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and interestingly enough, New Hampshire!
     
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