Real campaign finance reform means what? You want to limit how much money candidate can raise? How much they can spend? Do you realize that limits on campaign spending never take into account the amount of money an incumbent candidate can spend on from his office? Why do you want to make things worse by making it harder to get new people in? Tell you what, I am willing to trade you finance reform for term limits. The debates are not controlled by the government, so any ideas I have about them are irrelevant, because what you are discussion is government actions. Do you have any evidence that the elections anywhere in this country are not honest?