Egyptian-Turkish Naval exercise

[ekrem]

Dude, stop posting sources from 2003.
Our economy has tripled since then.

 

[JStone]

Dude, stop posting sources from 2003.
Our economy has tripled since then.

Turkish Army Using Israeli Drones: Turkish army using Israeli-built drones - CNN

The Turkish army was in Israel, recently, for UAV training.

Investor's Business Daily: How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In The Dark

Israel, a New Jersey-sized nation of 7.5 million people (1.7 million of whom are Arab) filed 7,082 international patents in the five years ending in 2007. By contrast, 28 majority-Muslim nations with almost 1.2 billion people — 155 times the population of Israel — were granted 2,071 patents in the same period. Narrowing the comparison to the 17 Muslim nations of the Middle East from Morocco to Iran and down the Arabian Peninsula, the 409 million people in that region generated 680 patents in five years.
This means that the Arab and Iranian world produced about one patent per year for every 3 million people, compared with Israel's output of one annual patent for every 5,295 people, an Israeli rate some 568 times that of Israel's neighbors and sometime enemies.

The awarding of Nobel Prizes in the quantitative areas of chemistry, economics and physics shows a similar disparity, with five Israeli winners compared with one French Algerian (a Jew who earned the prize for work done in France) and an Egyptian-American (for work done at Caltech in California).

The telltale signs of Israel's economic rise can be seen in the Tel Aviv skyline and the new office complexes around Jerusalem. International giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. was founded in 1901 by three pharmacists in Jerusalem. Today it employs 40,000 around the world.

Teva has a market cap of $44.2 billion — the most highly valued company based in Israel and the ninth-largest firm traded on the Nasdaq

Less than 300 miles separate the purposeful creative buzz in the JVP Media Quarter from the restive streets of Cairo, where the Muslim Brotherhood tells Egypt's unemployed that their plight is the fault of corrupt capitalists and Jews. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize-winning economist to figure out where these two economies are going.

How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In Dark - Investors.com

 

[JStone]

Dude, stop posting sources from 2003.
Our economy has tripled since then.

When might Turkey invent something or discover a cure for a disease? Israel invented the Intel Pentium and Centrino microprocessors that operate 90% of the world's computers and Israel invented an exoskeleton that permits paraplegics to walk. . The list goes on and on.

 

[ekrem]

When might Turkey invent something

Marc39 or JStone:
I never claimed Turks are scientists.

We can replace our lost equipment, better than you can.
Simple rules of economics and industrial output.
Take the US out of the game and Israel would lose in a conventional war against Turkey.

We produce almost everything we need to conduct a conventional War.
Except fighter Airframes, well not really. F-16's we produce near Ankara, but we still need the Radars from Lockheed Martin and the Electronic Warfare Systems from BAE Systems.

 

[Jroc]

When might Turkey invent something

Marc39 or JStone:
I never claimed Turks are scientists.

We can replace our lost equipment, better than you can.
Simple rules of economics and industrial output.
Take the US out of the game and Israel would lose in a conventional war against Turkey.
We produce almost everything we need to conduct a conventional War.
Except fighter Airframes, well not really. F-16's we produce near Ankara, but we still need the Radars from Lockheed Martin and the Electronic Warfare Systems from BAE Systems.

The thing with you is you don't understand that it could never happen as you say. 1st no NATO country would ever go to war with Israel, 2nd Israel only fights defensive wars and if it ever came to a point were they might loose, which would mean annihilation, Israel as plenty of nukes and could destroy your whole damn country. Get it?

 

[JStone]

When might Turkey invent something

Marc39 or JStone:
I never claimed Turks are scientists.

We can replace our lost equipment, better than you can.
Simple rules of economics and industrial output.
Take the US out of the game and Israel would lose in a conventional war against Turkey.

We produce almost everything we need to conduct a conventional War.
Except fighter Airframes, well not really. F-16's we produce near Ankara, but we still need the Radars from Lockheed Martin and the Electronic Warfare Systems from BAE Systems.

When did Turkey last fight in a war? Israel pummeled multiple Muslim armies in '48 and '67 with no US assistance. You're still humiliated after all these years

 

[uscitizen]

Why shouldn't Turkey have nukes too?

 

[ekrem]

The thing with you is you don't understand that it could never happen as you say. 1st no NATO country would ever go to war with Israel, 2nd Israel only fights defensive wars and if it ever came to a point were they might loose, which would mean annihilation, Israel as plenty of nukes and could destroy your whole damn country. Get it?

Your Israeli country-man makes adventurous claims like "the Muzzies being trained by Israel" or the Turkish Navy getting sunk.

I was discussing Turkish Naval Task force that conducted a naval exercise with Egypt after the mission was completed.

 

[JStone]

The thing with you is you don't understand that it could never happen as you say. 1st no NATO country would ever go to war with Israel, 2nd Israel only fights defensive wars and if it ever came to a point were they might loose, which would mean annihilation, Israel as plenty of nukes and could destroy your whole damn country. Get it?

Your Israeli country-man makes adventurous claims like "the Muzzies being trained by Israel" or the Turkish Navy getting sunk.

I was discussing Turkish Naval Task force that conducted a naval exercise with Egypt after the mission was completed.

Turkish Military Delegation In Israel For Drone Deal
Thursday June 24, 2010 01:51 by Saed Bannoura - IMEMC & Agencies

Turkish Military officials are currently in Israel to receive training and test four Israeli drones, Heron, manufactured by Israel Aerospace Industries which is owned by the Israeli government.
Turkish Military Delegation In Israel For Drone Deal - International Middle East Media Center

 

[ekrem]

Had we bought US Global Hawk, we'd be instructed in that, too by the American company who sells it.
Sounds very different than what you say:

The Jews have to teach the Muzzies how to fight.

Why shouldn't Turkey have nukes too?

We are participating in NATO nuclear-sharing agreement, and there are Nuclear bombs stationed in Turkey. So far that seemed to be sufficient.

 

[uscitizen]

Now this is the proper way to exercise a turkish naval:

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[CitizenPained]

Yes indeed facts suck. Israel has shot down enemy aircraft at a rate of around 100 to 1. So, Israel has around 500 combat aircraft and Turkey has around the same. So after the air combat phase of the war Israel will have, let's be kind....400 planes and the Turks have none. Guess how long it takes for the Turkish fleet to disappear?

First thing is naval-blockade and cutting Israel from the world. Fuel-supply, imports/exports.
Once you find a solution for this problem else then calling USA, we can talk again about war-strategy - if you have that desire. Probably the MB in Egypt would open her territory for Israelian fuel-supply.
Good-bye.

It's 'Israeli', not "Israelian'. But anyway. You are missing our point: Israel has a FAR MORE superior Air Force and Turkey will look like it commands a flotilla of tugboats if it came against Israel's defense.

I mean, here in the US, we have a great Navy fleet, too, but it is too large and some of our ships in service are unnecessary and maintained for political purposes. It's not just numbers that matter, but maybe you don't understand warfare enough to get that.

 

[ekrem]

but maybe you don't understand warfare enough to get that.

Your expertise in warfare is exactly what?

 

[Jroc]

but maybe you don't understand warfare enough to get that.

Your expertise in warfare is exactly what?

Couldn't be any worst than your expertise on the Israelian military.

 

[CitizenPained]

It's clear in this thread who has studied history and who just eats political party propaganda.

 

[ekrem]

It's clear in this thread who has studied history and who just eats political party propaganda.

Than please tell me how you're going to fight off a Turkish Naval blockade?
What are your capabilities in Anti-Submarine Warfare?
You don't have such capability and at the end of the day you have to call the USA to break a fictive Turkish Naval blockade on Israel, that supplies you with fuel, food, metal and everything else. Basically everything needed to wage a war. Or will the MB in Egypt supply you?

 

[ekrem]

14 submarines for Israel's tiny coastline with 6 new subs entering service in 2015.
All based on German design and licence-produced in Turkey. We have more German-type submarines than Germany herself.

It was a simple question about how you're going to get your supplies to wage a conventional War.
We can leave it now, and you don't have to answer it, because there is no answer to this without US involvement.

 

[ekrem]

5th in shipbuilding behind Germany, who occupies 4th place
The Turkish shipbuilding industry shone brightly for a brief period between 2005 and 2008, increasing orders tenfold and moving from 23rd position to eighth, growing 360 percent in the process compared to a global average of 89 percent.
globalsecurity.org

In war we'll put them one after one on battlefield. Just like the other equipment unless nukés are involved.

 

[ekrem]

5th in shipbuilding behind Germany, who occupies 4th place
The Turkish shipbuilding industry shone brightly for a brief period between 2005 and 2008, increasing orders tenfold and moving from 23rd position to eighth, growing 360 percent in the process compared to a global average of 89 percent.
globalsecurity.org

In war we'll put them one after one on battlefield. Just like the other equipment unless nukés are involved.

http://www.worldsteel.org/pictures/newsfiles/2010 statistics tables.pdf

 

[ekrem]

Debt as % of GDP
= ability to replace/procure new weapons

Economy

World Military Strength Comparison - Strength in Numbers - GlobalFirepower.com

Thanks for your attention.