Egyptian-Turkish military+economic pact

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    As George Friedman from Stratfor saw it coming a while ago


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    Central Bank President of Israel:

    VeriFone Israel: We can't give up on Turkey - Israel Business, Ynetnews
     
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    Federation of Israeli Chambers of Commerce

    Key Israelis warn of high Turkey rift cost - Hurriyet Daily News
     
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    Dispatch: Turkey Suspends Defense Ties With Israel | STRATFOR

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qmo_kuh_0]Dispatch: Turkey Suspends Defense Ties With Israel - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Congratulations.. I guess the Syrian thing didn't work out for you. and I don't think they are done killing each other in Egypt.
     
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    Probably, your next post will be about the propaganda how USA's money-transfer to Israel benefits US economy.
    Probably, Jstone (Marc39) will show up and tell us that Americans have to be grateful and thankful for this.

    1 day before we announced our sanctions against Israel, both Clinton and our FM met in Paris (Lybia conference).
    In same night Turkish Foreign Ministry released statement to host NATO's radars for the Alliance's Missile Shield, which was agreed to be built in Lisbon NATO meeting.
    The day Incirlik's nuclear bombs are removed from Turkey's soil we can assume US-Turkish relations head to a break or a major reset.
    No signs of such development, and north-east to Incirlik we'll now also host NATO's radars in Diyarbakir Air-Force base.

    USA will do what is best in its strategic interest.
    Contrary to the Jewish wishful thinking, the US-Turkish relations will improve with US withdrawal from Iraq.
    Iraq issue was the reason why relations "turned sour" in first place.

    Turkey is essential to US's continued influence in the Middle-East, unlike Israel.
    And unlike any other nation, Turkey has to offer qualitative influence over this region once interests between Turkey and an outside country (USA) converge.
    We have the biggest economy and the admiration of the people of this region, and we are exerting ever-increasing soft-power over them.
    Certainly, all the youth who are now revolting want to turn their countries into something that resembles Turkey.
    usmb.com: Turkey most popular country among Arabs

    Israel is relevant to exactly 20.000 square kilometers of Levant desert.
    Israel's security doesn't necessitate a US foreign policy, which produces wider regional dynamics, that produces a situation which turns against US's interests which are complex (Oil etc).

    Whether USA wants or not, USA will redeploy to China Sea, China's rise leaves no other choice.
    Especially after USA has fought a war in Iraq with China's money, that has produced no other result than strengthening Iran.
    That is what you get for spending the money you dont have and own.
    USA has to look after bigger issues and can and will not bind her downgraded $ from budget on-ground in Mid-East.

    And no matter how you would like the USA or its Congress to act, the USA will not go hostile against Turkey, which shares border with Iran.
    Iran's economy is half the size of Turkey in nominal terms and does not grow as fast as Turkey's.
    Still, USA has failed to contain Iran for 30 years and Iran is a major pain in the ass for US's interests.
    Now imagine a situation where Turkey enters that kind of game.
    Overall, this is way too expensive for USA and it would change how the Eastern-Mediterranean and West-Asia will look like, totally hostile against USA.
    USA will never allow another enemy state next to Iran, which has far more capabilities than Iran, maybe even turning into full-scale alliance with Iran.

    Egypt is one of the countries that is undergoing change in Mid-East and with Egypt we'll now have preferential relations from now on.
    As Egypt emancipates from US-backed dictatorial rule, Turkey is injecting herself in the Egyptian democratization process. And surely, we will assist them on all fronts where we can.
    Egypt is the biggest country of this region and the relationship between the new Egypt and Turkey will enhance Turkey's influence even more.
    I would say, that this is also to benefit of USA.

    At the end of the day, USA is leaving Iraq by year's end. It does not matter whether USA leaves some limited troop presence behind. USA won't have capability to enforce anything in Iraq after it has redeployed.

    The dynamics of this region will now be shaped by the regional countries.
    Turkey is the strongest horse in this game, and there is no reason to assume, that Turkey has not the backing of the USA.

    I'm sure, you and the other Jews will do everything to throw mud around and to hi-jack this thread into Anti-Turkish rants, like you always do.
    At some point, you'll understand, that this isn't your "Golden Days" anymore, and that no matter what you write, you won't prevent ascendance of Turkey, which is primarily nourished by socio-economic developments within Turkey - on which the Jew has no influence.
     
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    Mr. Erdogan will either cross into Gaza during his Egypt visit or there will be a visit to Gaza after his Egypt visit.
    Alon Liel, a former director general of Israel's foreign ministry says, that Mr. Erdogan will be treated "like a god" in Gaza.
    The Independent

    In Gaza, Mr Erdogan will hold a speech to millions of the Muslim world, unlike no-worth Obama speech in Cairo. Whole Muslim world will watch it.
    If Erdogan would say to Palestinians: It is time to rise up, Egyptians and Turks stand behind you..... look at what Israel will be facing.

    That's the price you paid for electing fascists like Liebermann and "total bullshitter" (Ehud Barak) Netanyahu into Government.
    You disrespected US's approach of a 2-state solution by 2012, and you played Jew-Lobby with the US's wider regional interests. Just look at the arrogance of Jews like Jstone (Marc39) or Ropey as if USA survives just because of Israel and it's not the other way round.
    Whole world will vote for Palestinian Statehood in UN General Assembly and you left USA in an embarrassing situation.
    Surely, the US establishment can't "punish" Israel as it wishes without leaving a dysfunctional Congress behind as long as the US Army doesn't clean the Jewish shit from Washington, that has amassed there.
    We'll do it for USA, that's what allies are for.

    Robert Gates: Israel an ungrateful ally - Israel News, Ynetnews
    Robert Gates Says Israel Is an Ungrateful Ally: Jeffrey Goldberg - Bloomberg


    Turkish journalist on the issue why USA is silent:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-KVQuDWnA]How Turkey Alone Rebuffs Arrogant Israel - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    The war, it comes. The military ramp up is clear. It will not be Israel that Turkey deals with.

    It will be the Kurds and an attempt to vest greater control in the arena. I'm an old military man and the military/political ramp up is clear to my eyes.

    There is only one way to make this a 'fast war'. :(
     

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