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During the Republican Debate, Ron Paul was asked about a hypothetical young man without insurance who gets sick. Ron Paul said you have to live by your choices.
When the moderator asked, "So we should let him die?" and then the audience started wildly cheering, "Yea, let him die!".
And how many of those people in the audience were old and fat? Well, from what they were showing, most of them. How many have Medicare and Social Security? And they were cheering, "Let him die?" because he had no insurance?
I thought it was bad enough when they cheered when Rick Santorum talked about ending "Medicare".
These people are insane. What other explanation could there be?
The Republican Party is truely evil.
Frank, I'm curious. Why do you never mention that those experiments were started under Hoover?See why they love FDR and his Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments
Frank, I'm curious. Why do you never mention that those experiments were started under Hoover?See why they love FDR and his Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments
I didn't either when I was single, but once the family came insurance was the responsible thing to do. I couldn't imagine being 30 with a family and chancing it without insurance, incredibly irresponsible.
Must be that conservative upbringing that taught me to look out for my own.
Once, family health insurance was somewhat affordable. Once, every employer offered health insurance. Now, young couples face difficult economic choices when it comes to insurance
Do you pay your college loans? The rent check? Utilities? How do you pay that $2000 repair bill on the car you need to get to work?
You have a $500 monthly bill on that family insurance policy. You feel healthy and think you can get by for a few years until you are in better financial shape.
Do you deserve to die for that decision?
No you don't but you also don't deserve to be bailed out by me because you took that gamble while I struggled and went without 3 meals a day because I decided to buy the health insurance.
Why should I be responsible for some other guys failed gamble? What's next your going to tell me to bail out GM when they make bad choices or the banks? Oh wait!
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REP. ZACH WAMP: Half the people that are uninsured today choose to remain uninsured. Half of them don't have any choice but half of them choose to, what's called, go naked, and just take the chance of getting sick. They end up in the emergency room costing you and me a whole lot more money.
WENDELL POTTER: He used the word naked. It's an industry term for those who, presumably, choose not to buy insurance, because they don't want to. They don't want to pay the premiums. So he was saying that half... Well, first of all, it's nothing like that. It was an absolutely ridiculous comment. But it's an example of a member of Congress buying what the insurance industry is peddling.
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BILL MOYERS: You told Congress that the industry has hijacked our health care system and turned it into a giant ATM for Wall Street. You said, "I saw how they confuse their customers and dump the sick, all so they can satisfy their Wall Street investors." How do they satisfy their Wall Street investors?
WENDELL POTTER: Well, there's a measure of profitability that investors look to, and it's called a medical loss ratio. And it's unique to the health insurance industry. And by medical loss ratio, I mean that it's a measure that tells investors or anyone else how much of a premium dollar is used by the insurance company to actually pay medical claims. And that has been shrinking, over the years, since the industry's been dominated by, or become dominated by for-profit insurance companies. Back in the early '90s, or back during the time that the Clinton plan was being debated, 95 cents out of every dollar was sent, you know, on average was used by the insurance companies to pay claims. Last year, it was down to just slightly above 80 percent.
So, investors want that to keep shrinking. And if they see that an insurance company has not done what they think meets their expectations with the medical loss ratio, they'll punish them. Investors will start leaving in droves.
I've seen a company stock price fall 20 percent in a single day, when it did not meet Wall Street's expectations with this medical loss ratio."
And Rightwinger, way to avoid the accurate criticisms by me of how the left treats the tea party
During the Republican Debate, Ron Paul was asked about a hypothetical young man without insurance who gets sick. Ron Paul said you have to live by your choices.
When the moderator asked, "So we should let him die?" and then the audience started wildly cheering, "Yea, let him die!".
These people are insane. What other explanation could there be?
The Republican Party has lost its way, and has moved away from the teachings of our Lord. It will take a REAL "Compassionate Conservative" like Ronald Reagan to bring the GOP back into God's good graces. We have not seen that Candidate yet
"Despite his aw shucks style, Reagan found virtually every anticommunist action justified, no matter how brutal. From his eight years in the White House, there is no historical indication that he was troubled by the bloodbath and even genocide that occurred in Central America during his presidency, while he was shipping hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to the implicated forces."
During the Republican Debate, Ron Paul was asked about a hypothetical young man without insurance who gets sick. Ron Paul said you have to live by your choices.
When the moderator asked, "So we should let him die?" and then the audience started wildly cheering, "Yea, let him die!".
And how many of those people in the audience were old and fat? Well, from what they were showing, most of them. How many have Medicare and Social Security? And they were cheering, "Let him die?" because he had no insurance?
I thought it was bad enough when they cheered when Rick Santorum talked about ending "Medicare".
These people are insane. What other explanation could there be?
You know I get more than a little tired of people who seem to deliberately mis-characterize what has been said and what it really means.
Ron Paul was asked about what government should do in the event someone had refused to buy health insurance and then became ill and was asked "so we should just let him die?" He wasn't asked about people who didn't have it because they couldn't afford it -but those who could but chose not to buy it! And yes -even I agree if someone can afford to buy health insurance but chooses not to -it is their right not to buy it. But they must also live with the consequences of choosing not to buy it!
.....easily solved!!!!
And Rightwinger, way to avoid the accurate criticisms by me of how the left treats the tea partyPlease!!!!
The typical Teabagger (I've seen) has never had a "clue", regarding politics.....
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y]9.12 DC TEA PARTY - MARCH FOOTAGE WITH INTERVIEWS - YouTube[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevga9jUC48]9.12 DC TEA PARTY - INTERVIEW B-ROLL - YouTube[/ame]
.....and, never felt any need to get "involved" (in politics), until some Black-dude got the Presidency!!!!
It doesn't GET any-more-obvious, than when they're asked a direct-question (about politics/policy)!!!!!
.....And, THEY'RE the ones who suggest a test should be taken......before anyone's allowed to vote??!!!
If someone destroys a sea turtle nest they have violated the law; if a women has an abortion within the limits imposed by Roe, she has not violated the law.
That's the point. What's being questioned is a law against killing unborn sea turtles but no law against killing unborn humans.
So the egg of an unborn animal out weighs the egg of an unborn human? Liberal minds are sick
I know you have been a loyal Tea Party member from the beginning and respect your views on curbing spending
However, your Tea Party movement was long ago taken over by a certain cable news network and the ultra conservative wing of the Republican party
One just has to look at the Iowa Tea Party and the pledges they make candidates sign up to. Those are not no tax pledges but also include anti gay marriage, anti abortion, pro gun and other social issues
I'd love to see the Tea Party take a more independent stand. I can't say I'm opposed to their goal of transforming the Republican party, but it's become increasingly difficult to tell who is transforming who. The Tea Party started with a solid goal that could have (and still can) appeal to a broad range of voters. As they've allowed the Republicans to water down their aims, and import more and more traditional authoritarian, 'big conservative' values, they've compromised their integrity, imho.
Well the cartoon one showed up..This is a fitting end to a stupid thread.
Today is a new day, Time for ANOTHER Faux outrage. eh?
Frank, I'm curious. Why do you never mention that those experiments were started under Hoover?See why they love FDR and his Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments
That's the point. What's being questioned is a law against killing unborn sea turtles but no law against killing unborn humans.
So the egg of an unborn animal out weighs the egg of an unborn human? Liberal minds are sick
Sea turtles are a higher form of life.
