Don't be blind

[eots]

^^^^ more TPP

Dwivecon just debwunked You..He typed tpp..you sir.. have been debwunked

thanks for showing once again what a delusional dipshit you are
seek out professional help before you try to attack the pentagon or an IRS office

and you should stop debwunking before you rape children or commit other horrible crimes

Homeland Security official arrested in child sex sting

CNN.com - Homeland Security official arrested in child sex sting - Apr 5, 2006


By Michael Grabell, ProPublica
Shawn Nguyen bragged that he could sneak anything past airport security using his top-secret clearance as a federal air marshal. And for months, he smuggled cocaine and drug money onto flights across the country, boasting to an FBI informant that he was "the man with the golden badge."
Michael McGowan used his position as an air marshal to lure a young boy to his hotel room, where he showed him child porn, took pictures of him naked and sexually abused him.
Crimes by air marshals raise questions about hiring - USATODAY.com

Department of Homeland Security Official Arrested on Extortion Charge
20 Mar 2006 ... Charge Manuel E. Mora and Department of Homeland Security ...
www.dhs.gov/xoig/assets/press/OIGpr_valle_032006.pdf

 

[eots]

lick that ass again, rimjob

DBWUNKERS LIKE DWIVECON....Like to imagine other board members engaging in homosexual acts...they are a strange bunch

hey, i can't help it rimjob loves to lick ass

No ..you cant help your homosexual imaginings

 

[ProudTwoofer]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8eyZL_7Co]YouTube - Rick Sanchez 911 police have found a 'suspicious device'[/ame]
Why wasn't this "suspicious device" ever spoken of again?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4vbO67Bp4]YouTube - Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy MEDIA LIES 9/11[/ame]

NewsMine.org - Cruise missile with wings hit pentagon

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTRsuRao7A]YouTube - Mike Walter, pentagon witness, CNN, 17:14, 9/11[/ame]

SPACE.com -- Eyewitness: The Pentagon

Now we'll never know whether Mike Walter made the connection of an "American airlines jet" while the event unfolded in front of him, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't compare an American Airliner with a missile. BUT HE WAS SPEAKING IN METAPHOR! Let's continue to use some common sense. We all know what a commercial plane sounds like. So why would Rains say it didn't sound like one?

Glen Stanish, Major General Albert Stubblebine, Lt. Col. John Marks and Col George Nelson
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38SlquOjvE]YouTube - Pod Under Flight 175? Military Plane Hit South Tower! Proved by CNN Footage![/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSe1OERJOyE]YouTube - CNN Discusses Mysterious White Plane Over D.C. on 9/11[/ame]

Can't find the source I really wanted though. Very often the most damning sources are taken offline.

 

[DiveCon]

ah, more twisted youtube videos

 

[DiveCon]

DBWUNKERS LIKE DWIVECON....Like to imagine other board members engaging in homosexual acts...they are a strange bunch

hey, i can't help it rimjob loves to lick ass

No ..you cant help your homosexual imaginings

ah, more projections

 

[ProudTwoofer]

One member here emphatically claimed Ron Paul was a truther. And when I posted a video of Ron Paul in his own words denying that, the member said well that's what he says for the public. In private - to the truthers - he says what he really believes. (Cue Twilight Zone eerie music in background please. . . . .)

I didn't "claim". I let Ron Paul speak for himself. Even candycorn says he embraces us. He's been on the Alex Jones show THREE times.

Do you in your wildest imagination honestly think that if there was ANYTHING credible to point to the conspiracy, that the President we now have and the Congress we now have would not be all over it to incriminate President Bush and the GOP Congress?

Anybody who questions the official story is always demonized. It's called thug journalism. There are plenty of credible people, not people I THINK are credible, but truly credible people who raise serious questions. Any politician that openly questions 9/11 will suffer political suicide, like Cynthia McKinney.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWXrMCGJT4]YouTube - SEN. SANDERS GOES OFF ON BERNANKE_ 03/03/09[/ame]

If congress can't get scum like Bernanke to admit where trillions of dollars go, if Bush wouldn't go under oath, if Obama wants to lock people up who haven't done anything, let alone been accused of anything, what makes you think anybody has anything on them that will will be taken into consideration in a court of law?

 

[eots]

Dedicated conspiracy theorists are masters at putting together what appaers to be 'evidence' and they are egged on by people eager to believe the conspiracies.

If 9/11 was an inside job as the conspiracy theorists say, it would have to involved cooperation of thousands upon thousands of eye witnesses, rescue workers, law enforcement pesonnel, and technical experts. At some point some credible person would have produced irrefutable evidence requiring a full Congressional investigation including interviews of credible witnesses.

As none of that has happened, but there has been testimony of thousands of witnesses who witnessed airplanes flying into buildings and dealing with remnants of those same planes pullled from the wreckage that the conspiracy theorists simply can't make their case stand up.

People like FauxFire are masters of baseless assumptions like of thousands and thousands of people would be required to pull off a false flag operation or that there is not powerful wittiness testimony that draws the official story into question...he also makes bizarre statements about planes flying into buildings implying that somehow the questions surrounding 9/11 are that planes did not fly into the wtc towers

Sorry but I know people who were there

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Where ?..and what relevance does that have ??

I have also read the very credible opinions of expert structural engineers and other witnesses that effectively debunkl the arguments of the conspiracy theorists.

Whom ?

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

You see the truthers' posts all the time. No crash into a Pennsylvania field. The hole in the Pentagon was nowhere near large enough for an airliner to have made it, etc. etc. etc. There is no way that an airliner crashing into the World Trade center could make a tower collapse, etc. etc. etc.

One member here emphatically claimed Ron Paul was a truther. And when I posted a video of Ron Paul in his own words denying that, the member said well that's what he says for the public. In private - to the truthers - he says what he really believes. (Cue Twilight Zone eerie music in background please. . . . .)

Ron Paul supports a new investigation..does that make him a truther...I don't know..what is the criteria to be called a truther ?

It just gets crazier and crazier, and it doesn't hold up in the face of rational scrutiny. And if there was ANY truth to it, somebody credible would have spoken up, spilled the beans, or provided incriminating evidence to require a Congressional investigation.

That is like not investigating a Mafia and saying it does not exist because no one turned themselves in..they are apparently searching for bin laden and still none.. spilled the beans

Do you in your wildest imagination honestly think that if there was ANYTHING credible to point to the conspiracy, that the President we now have and the Congress we now have would not be all over it to incriminate President Bush and the GOP Congress?

There really is a limit to even how nuts President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Senate leader Reid are willing to appear

You buy into the left/right illusion...you are deluded

 

[ProudTwoofer]

these paid shills have sick and strange minds.

Well, I don't know how long this conspiracy theory section has been here but DiveCon joined in 08, so, I don't think he's a shill, just part of the sheeple.

 

[ProudTwoofer]

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Debunkers dismiss anybody on our side by saying we "appeal to authority" and dismiss those who were there that claim anything that contradicts the official story no matter how crystal clear their testimony is because in the "confusion of the day, people can't remember clearly".

 

[DiveCon]

these paid shills have sick and strange minds.

Well, I don't know how long this conspiracy theory section has been here but DiveCon joined in 08, so, I don't think he's a shill, just part of the sheeple.

and you think that has any bearing on it?
just because i didnt join HERE till 08, doesnt mean i havent been online sine 1993
dipshit

 

[Foxfyre]

People like FauxFire are masters of baseless assumptions like of thousands and thousands of people would be required to pull off a false flag operation or that there is not powerful wittiness testimony that draws the official story into question...he also makes bizarre statements about planes flying into buildings implying that somehow the questions surrounding 9/11 are that planes did not fly into the wtc towers

.

Where ?..and what relevance does that have ??



Whom ?

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report




Ron Paul supports a new investigation..does that make him a truther...I don't know..what is the criteria to be called a truther ?




That is like not investigating a Mafia and saying it does not exist because no one turned themselves in..they are apparently searching for bin laden and still none.. spilled the beans

Do you in your wildest imagination honestly think that if there was ANYTHING credible to point to the conspiracy, that the President we now have and the Congress we now have would not be all over it to incriminate President Bush and the GOP Congress?

There really is a limit to even how nuts President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Senate leader Reid are willing to appear

You buy into the left/right illusion...you are deluded

I don't believe I assigned any of my opinions or yours as a left or rightwing ideology. But I'm not so stupid to think that the current Democratic leaders would ignore an opportunity to make George W. Bush look really bad.

However the author of the article you linked is this guy:
Alan Miller is author of the website Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report and webmaster for Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth

Do you think he might have a vested interest in coloring just about anything in a way that would support his point of view?

By contrast, I hunted and hunted for anything indicating James Quintiere, Ph.D., that indicated that he had made his views known to any authorities regarding 9/11 or the WTC. I can't find anything other than people on truther sites paraphrasing his comments. I would really like to hear from him after he has no doubt read all the engineering reports; even the more simple ones that I have read.

 

[DiveCon]

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Debunkers dismiss anybody on our side by saying we "appeal to authority" and dismiss those who were there that claim anything that contradicts the official story no matter how crystal clear their testimony is because in the "confusion of the day, people can't remember clearly".

because its just one of a SMALL group
you troofer morons suck at math

 

[DiveCon]

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Debunkers dismiss anybody on our side by saying we "appeal to authority" and dismiss those who were there that claim anything that contradicts the official story no matter how crystal clear their testimony is because in the "confusion of the day, people can't remember clearly".

btw, dipshit, you and Id-Eots dont understand, i have never claimed to be a debunker, because i dont have to debunk anything
it has already been done by others with far more evidence than i care to dig up
you guys are fucking delusional paranoids in fear of your own government

 

[DiveCon]

I don't believe I assigned any of my opinions or yours as a left or rightwing ideology. But I'm not so stupid to think that the current Democratic leaders would ignore an opportunity to make George W. Bush look really bad.

However the author of the article you linked is this guy:
Alan Miller is author of the website Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report and webmaster for Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth

Do you think he might have a vested interest in coloring just about anything in a way that would support his point of view?

By contrast, I hunted and hunted for anything indicating James Quintiere, Ph.D., that indicated that he had made his views known to any authorities regarding 9/11 or the WTC. I can't find anything other than people on truther sites paraphrasing his comments. I would really like to hear from him after he has no doubt read all the engineering reports; even the more simple ones that I have read.

well, clearly the democrats are all in on the conspiracy as well
as well as all the media, and anyone that doesnt buy into their bullshit
Alex Jones is their savior

 

[eots]

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Where ?..and what relevance does that have ??



Whom ?

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report




Ron Paul supports a new investigation..does that make him a truther...I don't know..what is the criteria to be called a truther ?




That is like not investigating a Mafia and saying it does not exist because no one turned themselves in..they are apparently searching for bin laden and still none.. spilled the beans





You buy into the left/right illusion...you are deluded

I don't believe I assigned any of my opinions or yours as a left or rightwing ideology. But I'm not so stupid to think that the current Democratic leaders would ignore an opportunity to make George W. Bush look really bad.

these operations are not effected by party by politics they are puppets of the same masters

However the author of the article you linked is this guy:
Alan Miller is author of the website Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report and webmaster for Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth

Do you think he might have a vested interest in coloring just about anything in a way that would support his point of view?

How does that address the statements of those that appear on the site that are actively involved in 9/11truth of which there are many ??

By contrast, I hunted and hunted for anything indicating James Quintiere, Ph.D., that indicated that he had made his views known to any authorities regarding 9/11 or the WTC. I can't find anything other than people on truther sites paraphrasing his comments. I would really like to hear from him after he has no doubt read all the engineering reports; even the more simple ones that I have read.

lmao....he was the lead fire investigator at NIST !!...He did the bulk of the research up until 2007 !



The full text of Dr. Quintiere’s statement to the Science Committee can be found at The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps ]

Responding to a comment from a NIST representative in the audience, Dr. Quintiere said, “I found that throughout your whole investigation it was very difficult to get a clear answer. And when anyone went to your advisory panel meetings or hearings, where they were given five minutes to make a statement; they could never ask any questions. And with all the commentary that I put in, and I spent many hours writing things, and it would bore people if I regurgitated all of that here, I never received one formal reply.”
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[Foxfyre]

these operations are not effected by party by politics they are puppets of the same masters



Do you think he might have a vested interest in coloring just about anything in a way that would support his point of view?

How does that address the statements of those that appear on the site that are actively involved in 9/11truth of which there are many ??

By contrast, I hunted and hunted for anything indicating James Quintiere, Ph.D., that indicated that he had made his views known to any authorities regarding 9/11 or the WTC. I can't find anything other than people on truther sites paraphrasing his comments. I would really like to hear from him after he has no doubt read all the engineering reports; even the more simple ones that I have read.

lmao....he was the lead fire investigator at NIST !!...He did the bulk of the research up until 2007 !



The full text of Dr. Quintiere’s statement to the Science Committee can be found at The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps ]

Responding to a comment from a NIST representative in the audience, Dr. Quintiere said, “I found that throughout your whole investigation it was very difficult to get a clear answer. And when anyone went to your advisory panel meetings or hearings, where they were given five minutes to make a statement; they could never ask any questions. And with all the commentary that I put in, and I spent many hours writing things, and it would bore people if I regurgitated all of that here, I never received one formal reply.”
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Perhaps you could refer me to the precise place in the linked document/site where he said that so that I would have the full context of his comment? I simply don't have time to plow through the whole thing looking for it.

 

[DiveCon]

How does that address the statements of those that appear on the site that are actively involved in 9/11truth of which there are many ??





lmao....he was the lead fire investigator at NIST !!...He did the bulk of the research up until 2007 !



The full text of Dr. Quintiere’s statement to the Science Committee can be found at The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps ]

Responding to a comment from a NIST representative in the audience, Dr. Quintiere said, “I found that throughout your whole investigation it was very difficult to get a clear answer. And when anyone went to your advisory panel meetings or hearings, where they were given five minutes to make a statement; they could never ask any questions. And with all the commentary that I put in, and I spent many hours writing things, and it would bore people if I regurgitated all of that here, I never received one formal reply.”
OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Perhaps you could refer me to the precise place in the linked document/site where he said that so that I would have the full context of his comment? I simply don't have time to plow through the whole thing looking for it.

no where does he buy into the bullshit that 9/11 was an inside job
he disagrees with the conclusion that thermal expansion was the cause

 

[Foxfyre]

Perhaps you could refer me to the precise place in the linked document/site where he said that so that I would have the full context of his comment? I simply don't have time to plow through the whole thing looking for it.

no where does he buy into the bullshit that 9/11 was an inside job
he disagrees with the conclusion that thermal expansion was the cause

I haven't been able to find a transcript of anything he wrote on it. Just what the Truthers say he said, and they aren't providing any kind of context.

However, in rebuttal to that whole long and most complex site linked, I'll admit I have neither the time nor the interest to read it all. But I will provide this detailed report from Popular Mechanics as the rebuttal for it:

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

It is fascinating reading.

 

[ProudTwoofer]

and you think that has any bearing on it?
just because i didnt join HERE till 08, doesnt mean i havent been online sine 1993
dipshit

Wow, what a dumb ass. Why do I have to spell everything out for you? The fact you've been active here since 08 gives you more credibility that you're not a shill. Whereas somebody who joined rather recently and only spreads propaganda, etc wouldn't.

you troofer morons suck at math

What happened in Nazi Germany when scientists spoke out against eugenics? They lost their jobs. Same holds true for today. Anybody that speaks out against the official story of 9/11 is fired. Rosie, Lou Dobbs, Steven Jones among others.

 

[ProudTwoofer]

Here's Ron Paul saying he's not a truther:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k]YouTube - Ron Paul on 9/11 Truthers[/ame]

Here's him saying otherwise:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d91a13Yr3oQ]YouTube - Ron Paul Questioned about 9/11[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88x6JdfjwCY]YouTube - WeAreChangeLA questions Ron Paul about the IMF as well as 9-11 Truth[/ame]

And Ron Paul has been on the Alex Jones show THREE FREAKING TIMES. Got that everybody? The most recent was in January.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1iDdMmiTA]YouTube - Ron Paul on Alex Jones Tv 1/3: Obama's Hypocrisy & The Continued Loss of Freedoms![/ame]S