Don't Ask Dems What They Really Think Same Sex Marriage

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    There's a reason that the media hasn't asked national Democrats what they think about California's same-sex marriage bill.
    by Hugh Hewitt
    09/22/2005 9:40:00 AM


    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/108fnrwj.asp
     
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    This article is full of speculation. And it missed a few stories that are a little more important than homos getting married.

    Yeah, like the story about how Pat Roberts called for the assassination of an elected leader of another country. If a mulah from Iran called for the assassination of Dubya, we'd crucify him!

    Or the story about the security leak in the Bush administration that resulted the outing of former US Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson's wife as a CIA operative.

    Or the story about the failing Iraqi government that's about to erupt into civil war.

    On a scale of 1-10, I'd put homos being able to get a civil union license at about a 1.Idon'tgiveash*t. If you don't have to live with them and watch them have sex, why do you care? Are you afraid God will level our country with balls of fire from the sky and turn you into a pillar of salt? Please.
     
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    Wow more insightful deflection. :mm:
     
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    Hi Celine. I hear you on your comments.

    Bonnie, I am sort of confused by this article. Do you truly believe that the media is really biased in favor of democrats? Because I sure don't. Regardless, I don't give the author's concerns much probative value. We had one of the worst storms hit this country. That was the primary issue at that time. If you noticed, no one was talking about the war in Iraq, and people were dying during that time period. This is common. Some big news occurs and everyone is all over it. The lesser newsworthy stories don't get much coverage, if at all. I got sick and tired of turning on the TV and everything being about Katrina.

    I know you may think I am biased in this circumstance, but I though Hewitt's analysis of these facts was totally off-base. Sorry, but the death of human beings, the displacement of thousands of people, watching people beg for food and water, and discussin the failure of state and federal authorities were far more important than talking about gay marriage.

    JMO
     
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    at least post equal time for your statements...FACT:Saddam Hussein did order the assassination of Bush 41 after the first Gulf War...were you asleep?
     
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    Exactly. In J-school you learn about story hierarchy. Since Katrina was such a catastrophy, filler issues like gay marriage were pushed to the sidelines because catastrophes get ratings. "If it bleeds it leads" babe.

    Oh and there is no vast liberal media conspiracy. If you remember back to the Clinton administration, the media dragged his name through the mud with the whole Lewinski scandal. All public officials and personalities are highly scrutinized by the media.

    I don't know what this has to do with my last post, but you're right. Saddam did order an assassination attempt on H.W.Bush. That is about the only thing we ever had on the guy. The Iraq war is a Bush family agenda.
     
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    Of course all those things are more important but the jist of the article was about how evasive Democrats have been on this subject and why. In the grand scheme of things happening at that time it ranks low.

    And yes a good portion of the media is biased towards a liberal mode of thinking and it comes thru in printed word whether they mean it to or not. Have you never seen statistics that show how those in the media vote, it's almost always 90% democrat and are in favor of liberal cuases. Liberals in general gravitate towards journalism and then those idealistic ideas are compounded by colleges. The media doesn't report the news anymore, it makes the news. Many would say Fox et al are too leaning toward conservative ideas, but if you watch all the networks you will see much more balance on Fox by presenting both a Conservative and a Liberal in almost every debate, I rarely see that on CNN or even MSNBC. The NY Times and LA Times are so biased they have been caught many times of making up information in their stories, doctoring up pictures of our soldiers, making numerous mention of anyone who is pro-life, christian, in favor of home schooling, or wanting lower taxes, as being right wing fringe, or right wing extremeists. I never read references to pro-choicers or feminists as radical left wing fringe, or left wing extremeists.
     
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    Oh, Celine, you are speaking my language. On a similar note, Maureen Dowd had this to say in her article in the New York Times on Saturday:

    With Karl Rove's help, Junior designed his presidency as a reverse of his father's. W. would succeed by studying Dad's failures and doing the opposite. But in a bizarre twist of filial fate, the son has stumbled so badly in areas where he tried to one-up Dad that he has ended up giving Dad a leg up in the history books. . . .

    His father made the "mistake" of not conquering and occupying Iraq because he had the silly idea that Iraqis would resent it. His father made the "mistake" of raising taxes, not cutting them, and overly obsessing about the federal deficit. And his father made the "mistake" of hewing to the center, making his base mad and losing his bid for re-election.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/o...rials and Op-Ed/Op-Ed/Columnists/Maureen Dowd
     
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    Nothing, but i'll bite anyway...If this was a Bush agenda then why all the support by liberals such as Kerry, Clinton, and Kennedy to stop Hussein way before Bush ever became president?? Why were they saying back then that Hussein was a threat to the US and the world and that he did have WMD's?

    And BTW the same media you claim were the ones dragging Clinton's name thru the mud were the same ones who were making excuses for him lying under oath to a Grand Jury by saying it was just about sex, and that Kenneth Starr who was appointed by to investigate Clinton was nothing more than "A VAST Right Wing Conspiracy"..
    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    But Clinton's lying under oath was about sex, wouldn't you agree? Or was his lying about having "sexual relations" with her a subliminal message for something much more devious?

    Or are you implying that the media dismissed it because it was "just about sex" and nothing more important. I remember headline after headline in teh local newspapers about this issue. I think the media gave it lots of attention. As for me, I genuinely did not care about that issue at all. While I was disappointed with him, I sort of couldn't blame him because if I was married to a cold fish, I might look elsewhere too. If I liked Hillary, I might have been more angry with him.
     

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