Does this count as "redistribution of wealth"

[emilynghiem]

1. seizing land from Native Americans and redistributing the land to colonists to develop
2. forcing the Kingdom of Hawaii to abdicate under military threat of violence against their will, and taking the land for US citizens and government
3. using forced labor of Irish, Chinese and Black slaves to build the nation's economy and infrastructure historically in development as a nation

Is this wrong if it is under "socialism" using civil laws to justify government controls (argued against as a grab for political power), but OK if war or force is used to take over territories or people's labor because that is under "capitalism" and colonial/corporate development for economic growth (which is also argued against as a grab for political power)?

so it isn't socialism vs capitalism that is the evil, but the oppressive abuse to override others?

 

[occupied]

The standard operating policy of the west has always been to grease the skids of commerce with the blood and toil of third-world peasants.

 

[Duped]

1. seizing land from Native Americans and redistributing the land to colonists to develop
2. forcing the Kingdom of Hawaii to abdicate under military threat of violence against their will, and taking the land for US citizens and government
3. using forced labor of Irish, Chinese and Black slaves to build the nation's economy and infrastructure historically in development as a nation

Is this wrong if it is under "socialism" using civil laws to justify government controls (argued against as a grab for political power), but OK if war or force is used to take over territories or people's labor because that is under "capitalism" and colonial/corporate development for economic growth (which is also argued against as a grab for political power)?

so it isn't socialism vs capitalism that is the evil, but the oppressive abuse to override others?

Capitaism is a platform where your dreams can be realized. Socialism is where the state owns your dreams.

Nation building is an evolution: 1,2, and 3 happened in the past wherein past people had the onus to deal with it. We are in the present; we need to deal with our problems.

To dig into the past; conjure up some percieved wrong to justify socialist ridistribution is modern day theft!

Human nature is sinful irrespective of politics, but socialism is a blanket of sin - it is oppresive; dims the human spirit; criminal!

You know we stopped fire bombing civilian populations some time ago too

 

[TemplarKormac]

If we're going to play this game....

We might as well include Obamacare in this discussion. It is a textbook redistribution of wealth. So are entitlement programs.

 

[pvsi]

Capitaism is a platform where your dreams can be realized. Socialism is where the state owns your dreams.

Nation building is an evolution: 1,2, and 3 happened in the past wherein past people had the onus to deal with it. We are in the present; we need to deal with our problems.

To dig into the past; conjure up some percieved wrong to justify socialist ridistribution is modern day theft!

Human nature is sinful irrespective of politics, but socialism is a blanket of sin - it is oppresive; dims the human spirit; criminal!

You know we stopped fire bombing civilian populations some time ago too

I will let the 3 images do all the talking for anyone who cares about the truth:

 

[OKTexas]

Only really ignorant people try to re-litigate historical events. I refer to the alcoholics prayer.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.