Does smoking shorten lifespan? Mmm no it doesn't.

[OnePercenter]

Lung cancer and emphysema shorten life spans.

Sure, unfortunately for the hysterical anti-smoking clique though only about 40% of lung cancer patients smoked.

The rest of them had to put up with second hand smoke. Same as smoking.

Uh no. Think about it. Inhaling a partial lungfull of smoke, or smoking directly and getting every bit of it. Which is gonna result in more exposure?

That's the kind of ridiculous claims made easily dispelled.

A smoker is pulling filth into his lungs only while the cigarette is lit
Someone who works in a second hand smoke environment is breathing in that filth for an entire eight hour shift

Off-gassing from new car smell can do the same.

 

[OnePercenter]

Lung cancer and emphysema shorten life spans.

Sure, unfortunately for the hysterical anti-smoking clique though only about 40% of lung cancer patients smoked.

Not quite....

Facts about LUNG CANCER


"Smoking causes 87% of lung cancer"

Perhaps in Illinois, but unless you study people that have died from lung cancer that have had no other environmental or DNA risk you can't be sure of the number.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Maureen O'Hara, dead at 95. Smoker.

O'Hara (Female Celebrity Smoking List)

While the link claims she didn't, for a 'non-smoker' she seemed to endorse a lot of Camels and smoke in a lot of movies. And whether she did or not, it shatters another anti-tobacco lie, that 2nd hand smoke is more dangerous than first. Um, think she lived and worked around non-smokers or do you think old Hollywood maybe had a few she woulda been breathing in smoke from?

 

[Vandalshandle]

 

[Dot Com]

All true I'm afraid and unfortunately the good genes that your parents or grandparents enjoy may not be the genes you've been gifted with. Smoking damages the heart muscle and while your great grand whatever may have gotten away with it that doesn't mean you will be as lucky.

It would be great if there were a test that showed that you could smoke or drink as much as you like. I suppose a DNA test could reveal some things, but knowing you are likely to survive versus you will survive is a big difference. In the end, why would you want to live capriciously anyway? There really isn't anything special in the ability to smoke, drink, or overeat except you will stink, stagger, and be fat.

yep. You maybe able to live to 100 but your lungs will be coated in tar, your tastebuds won't he 1/2 as good as a non-smokers, your clothes will have burn holes and you'll smell

 

[rightwinger]

Maureen O'Hara, dead at 95. Smoker.

O'Hara (Female Celebrity Smoking List)

While the link claims she didn't, for a 'non-smoker' she seemed to endorse a lot of Camels and smoke in a lot of movies. And whether she did or not, it shatters another anti-tobacco lie, that 2nd hand smoke is more dangerous than first. Um, think she lived and worked around non-smokers or do you think old Hollywood maybe had a few she woulda been breathing in smoke from?

Sample of one

You as a smoker, will die an early death

Even worse, you will suffer in your last years

 

[Dot Com]

Maureen O'Hara, dead at 95. Smoker.

O'Hara (Female Celebrity Smoking List)

While the link claims she didn't, for a 'non-smoker' she seemed to endorse a lot of Camels and smoke in a lot of movies. And whether she did or not, it shatters another anti-tobacco lie, that 2nd hand smoke is more dangerous than first. Um, think she lived and worked around non-smokers or do you think old Hollywood maybe had a few she woulda been breathing in smoke from?

Sample of one

You as a smoker, will die an early death

Even worse, you will suffer in your last years

yep, smoking-related deaths are the most protracted and expensive as well

 

[rightwinger]

Maureen O'Hara, dead at 95. Smoker.

O'Hara (Female Celebrity Smoking List)

While the link claims she didn't, for a 'non-smoker' she seemed to endorse a lot of Camels and smoke in a lot of movies. And whether she did or not, it shatters another anti-tobacco lie, that 2nd hand smoke is more dangerous than first. Um, think she lived and worked around non-smokers or do you think old Hollywood maybe had a few she woulda been breathing in smoke from?

Sample of one

You as a smoker, will die an early death

Even worse, you will suffer in your last years

yep, smoking-related deaths are the most protracted and expensive as well

Not a pretty sight

Gasping for breath

 

[auditor0007]

Smoke, drink, eat the wrong food and live to 100... if you've inherited the right genes

"Smoking, drinking and eating fast food will not stop you living to a ripe old age – if you have the right genes.

A study of hundreds of centenarians revealed they were just as likely to have vices as other people – and in some cases they indulged in them more.

Some of them had smoked for 85 years, others got through more than two packets of cigarettes a day. They also exercised less than their shorter-lived counterparts but were less likely to become obese.
...
Almost 500 men and women aged between 95 and 109 were asked about how they had lived their lives for the study.

If lifestyle was more important than genetics, the results would have shown the centenarians to be less likely to smoke than the others and have led healthier lives.

But this was far from the case, the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society reported.
Pugh

The long-lived men and women were no more likely to have dieted than the others and were more likely to have smoked and drunk."

rest at link

Our genes determine our health and longevity, not lifestyle factors like diet and smoking. If you really want people to be healthier quit lying to them.

There are exceptions to everything, and yes, some people who smoke and drink and do drugs will live longer than others who do none of those things. That does not change the fact that the majority of non-smokers will live approximately ten years longer than lifelong smokers. That is a statistical fact.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Smoke, drink, eat the wrong food and live to 100... if you've inherited the right genes

"Smoking, drinking and eating fast food will not stop you living to a ripe old age – if you have the right genes.

A study of hundreds of centenarians revealed they were just as likely to have vices as other people – and in some cases they indulged in them more.

Some of them had smoked for 85 years, others got through more than two packets of cigarettes a day. They also exercised less than their shorter-lived counterparts but were less likely to become obese.
...
Almost 500 men and women aged between 95 and 109 were asked about how they had lived their lives for the study.

If lifestyle was more important than genetics, the results would have shown the centenarians to be less likely to smoke than the others and have led healthier lives.

But this was far from the case, the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society reported.
Pugh

The long-lived men and women were no more likely to have dieted than the others and were more likely to have smoked and drunk."

rest at link

Our genes determine our health and longevity, not lifestyle factors like diet and smoking. If you really want people to be healthier quit lying to them.

There are exceptions to everything, and yes, some people who smoke and drink and do drugs will live longer than others who do none of those things. That does not change the fact that the majority of non-smokers will live approximately ten years longer than lifelong smokers. That is a statistical fact.

For a statistical fact I notice you didn't cite it.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

1920
53.6 54.6
Life expectancy in the USA, 1900-98

Life expectancy in 1920 when Maureen O'Hara was born. Men Women respectively.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

We die when our genes say we'll die. Has little to nothing to do with lifestyle factors like diet, exercise, smoking. O'Hara spent much of her life around secondhand smoke. If the anti-smoekrs were right she should died over 50 years ago.

See more impact from psychological stress on longevity than you do smoking, diet, or exercise. Hear about health nuts who drop dead all the time in their 50s from heart attacks because they thought if they exercised vigourously enough they'd live forever.

Relax, accept you're mortal, and you'll do just fine.

 

[Iron Head]

Having recently dealt with taking care of both parents who went through bouts with cancer as a result of smoking (one winning, the other losing), and all of the care and treatment that entails (surgeries, chemo, radiation therapy), I have read a fair bit on the subject and spoken to a number of oncologists, surgeons, cardiovascular specialist, and so on.

If this numb nuts, Delta, wants to project the dangerous sentiment that you are no more likely to develop cancer if you smoke, then let him. Maybe he will learn first hand what horrors cancer inflicts on the human body and the brutality of the treatments to fight it. I would wish such an ordeal on nobody, not even Delta.

But no medical doctor in his or her right mind that practices will ever agree with Delta dipshit. Prolonged smoking is about the worst thing that you can do to your body, as it affects not just your lungs, but also the tissues in your mouth, throat and wind pipe, your cardiovascular system, your metabolism, the health of your organs, and more. It is much more likely that smokers will suffer from heart attack,?stroke and complications from diabetes.

Delta is a fucking joke. It would be comical if he were not so fucking stupid and serious, and that did not involve such a serious disease.

 

[Esmeralda]

Lung cancer and emphysema shorten life spans.

Sure, unfortunately for the hysterical anti-smoking clique though only about 40% of lung cancer patients smoked.

Not quite....

Facts about LUNG CANCER


"Smoking causes 87% of lung cancer"

Also, smoking isn't just about dying earlier: it is about quality of life as well as contributing to the development of other diseases. There is nothing good about smoking.

 

[Esmeralda]

We die when our genes say we'll die. Has little to nothing to do with lifestyle factors like diet, exercise, smoking.

This is total, complete, unadulterated bullshit.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Lung cancer and emphysema shorten life spans.

Sure, unfortunately for the hysterical anti-smoking clique though only about 40% of lung cancer patients smoked.

Not quite....

Facts about LUNG CANCER


"Smoking causes 87% of lung cancer"

Also, smoking isn't just about dying earlier: it is about quality of life as well as contributing to the development of other diseases. There is nothing good about smoking.

Is actually about half a dozen benefits to it. Used to prescribe ciggies. If you were an honest and impartial researcher you'd know these things.

"Tobacco use confers a small degree of protection against several diseases and conditions, described in the sections below. It is estimated that in 2004–05, tobacco use prevented about 148 deaths in Australia...

[conditions it treats or helps prevent]

Ulcerative colitis, Parkinson's disease, Endometrial cancer and uterine fibroids, Pre-eclampsia (hypertension in pregnancy, Thyroid cancer, Skin cancer.)

[Aids] Cognitive performance, Psychiatric symptoms.

Other possible health 'benefits'

There is some evidence that smokers44 and users of smokeless tobacco45 are less likely to develop aphthous stomatitis (common mouth ulcers). One recent study found that the possible protective effect of smoking was only present when there was heavy cigarette smoking or smoking for long periods of time (>5 years) and no significant associations were found between intensity or duration of smoking and clinical severity of aphthous stomatitis lesions.46 Transient increased incidence of mouth ulcers is commonly reported by individuals on quitting smoking."
3.28 Health 'benefits' of smoking? - Tobacco In Australia

Google 'health benefits smoking' if you wanna be right instead of political for a change.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

We die when our genes say we'll die. Has little to nothing to do with lifestyle factors like diet, exercise, smoking.

This is total, complete, unadulterated bullshit.

What some faceless coward says online means less than a glob of spit without evidence. Can say whatever you like dear. But your statements mean shit without evidence.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Longevity More Linked To Genes Than Lifestyle, Research Reveals

"Individuals who live past 95 years of age have similar lifestyles to the rest of the population regarding smoking, drinking, diet and exercise, researchers at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University revealed in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society. As far as longevity is concerned, it really does seem that nature matters more than nurture, the authors explained."

"The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance." - "Q"

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Lung cancer and emphysema shorten life spans.

Sure, unfortunately for the hysterical anti-smoking clique though only about 40% of lung cancer patients smoked.

Not quite....

Facts about LUNG CANCER


"Smoking causes 87% of lung cancer"

That's demonstratably false. That number in fact comes from,

"Surprisingly, fewer than 10 percent of lifelong smokers will get lung cancer. Fewer yet will contract the long list of other cancers, such as throat or mouth cancers. In the game of risk, you're more likely to have a condom break than to get cancer from smoking.

That the majority of smokers beat cancer doesn't make for effective anti-smoking campaigning. So the statistics are turned around: Smoking accounts for 30 percent of all cancer deaths and 87 percent of lung cancer deaths; the risk of developing lung cancer is about 23 times higher in male smokers compared to non-smokers; smoking is associated with increased risk of at least 15 types of cancer; or that smoking causes millions of deaths worldwide."
Smoking's Many Myths Examined

If you didn't get it don't worry, I'm here to explain it for you. Only TEN percent of smokers get cancer. Of that 10%, 87% die because of it.

"Every year, about 16,000 to 24,000 Americans die of lung cancer, even though they have never smoked. In fact, if lung cancer in non-smokers had its own separate category, it would rank among the top 10 fatal cancers in the United States."
Lung Cancer Risks for Non-smokers

If you want people to do or not do something, tell em the truth. Make shit up and it's found out, your name is Mudd.

 

[Iron Head]

Somebody needs to backhand this op.