Does anyone here understand the term "insurgent"?

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    I've been reading here for months and always questioned the term "insurgent" as applied to American opposition in Iraq. Consider that many here tend to believe that "insurgent" means some uninvited or otherwise outside force manipulating internal politics. Actually what it does mean is "rising in revolt against established authority". Herein I have a problem.

    Typically, all reference to "insurgents" in the context of Iraq are included with remarks bearing reference to al Queda or other religious fundamentalist Islamists. Surely you're not impying that Islamists in general are "insurgents" anymore than our occupiers of Iraq are religious fundamentalist Christians, or are you? I don't ever recall any reference to the Shiites, Sunnis, Baathists or even the Kurds as "insurgents" before the war we now have in Iraq and there are thousands of references of pre-war vintage. How did the term "insurgent" finally enter into the equation?

    I once posted an article that would entertain the reference of myself as an "insurgent" should I defend myself and my country should an outside force invade us, the USA, due to some international difference with GWB. I was immediately assured that "No, you would be a patriot." So now I find myself confused.

    Considering that Iraq is now a sovereign nation ruled by a council that hasn't been democratically elected and the US has never demonstrated established authority there, what do we now call the opposition? Patriots, insurgents, malcontents, whatever. We simply must have a media friendly name for them. Don't you think?

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    Hell no I don't call them 'insurgents' 'activists' 'freedom fighters' or any other euphamism. I call them, terrorists, without quotes. I believe that Reuters began that nonsense and the other media picked it up.
     
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    I certainly dig that, Kathianne!!!!!!!!! But what about the rest?

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    I would assume you are referring to the civilians? They are always called, civilians or Iraqi people. Not by any euphamism that I've ever seen. Not even Islamics for that matter, unless in religious discussions.
     
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    Semantics. Insurgents may be PC, I call them terrorists. Or animals. I particularly like to call them Goat Meat after our Troops shoot the snot out of them.
     
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    I call them dog shit. :)
     
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    :clap1: :clap1:

    Although pig shit might be more appropriate. :D
     
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    So, based on what I'm reading so far, it would be acceptable for many of you to call me "terrorist", up to and including "dog shit" should I decide to defend my nation against a foreign agressor that had political differences with GWB? Or am I confusing the double standard? "Insurgent" is just so innocent, or don't you agree?

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    Actually, I think you are innocent. :D
     
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    Apples and Oranges.

    You cannot compare Iraq with the USA.
     

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