Do you think Bin Laden is dead?

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Do you think Bin Laden is dead?

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  1. Nevadamedic
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    I just read this on Wikopedia........

    April 2005
    The Sydney Morning Herald stated "Dr Clive Williams, director of terrorism studies at the Australian National University, says documents provided by an Indian colleague suggested bin Laden died of massive organ failure in April last year...'It's hard to prove or disprove these things because there hasn't really been anything that allows you to make a judgment one way or the other', Dr. Williams said."[85]


    August 2006
    On September 23, 2006 the French newspaper L'Est Républicain quoted a report from the French secret service (DGSE) stating that Osama bin Laden had died in Pakistan on August 23, 2006 after contracting a case of typhoid fever that paralyzed his lower limbs. According to the newspaper, Saudi security services first heard of bin Laden's alleged death on September 4, 2006.[86][87][88] The alleged death was reported by the Saudi Arabian secret service to its government, which reported it to the French secret service. The French defense minister Michèle Alliot-Marie expressed her regret that the report had been published while French President Jacques Chirac declared that bin Laden's death had not been confirmed.[89] American authorities also cannot confirm reports of bin Laden's death,[90] with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice saying only, "No comment, and no knowledge."[91] Later, CNN's Nic Robertson said that he had received confirmation from an anonymous Saudi source that the Saudi intelligence community has known for a while that bin Laden has a water-borne illness, but that he had heard no reports that it was specifically typhoid or that he had died.

    Do you think he is dead or alive? I have mixed feelings. I think there is a chance he could be dead, there's always that possibility, but then again I can see why they would want to circulate rumors of his death.

    Personally I hope he is still alive as I want our Country the satisfaction of getting this son of a bitch. What do you think will happen if he is caught? Brought to trial? Or killed by our forces during the captured?
     
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    Given his history of ESRD, if he is alive, he's getting dialyzed somewhere. A diagnosis of massive organ failure would not be inconsistent with ESRD, if the patient has a line infection from a hemodialysis catheter or peritonitis from a PD catheter. Either can lead to sepsis and multi system failure. Of course, the Bush administration let him slip out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan. So much for "dead-or-alive". Of course, if he's dead, well BushCo doesn't want that to get out as they can't use that boogey-man any more to try and frighten American's gullible enough to fall for their shit.
     
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    Wow. I love to see the truth spoken. :eusa_clap:
     
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    And the Democrats wouldn't want it to get out for their most bandied complaint about Iraq is that first bin Laden needed to be dead.
     
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    George W. Bush is the last person that wants to capture bin Laden.
     
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    That's not true at all.
     
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    Yes it is. Learn history and you would know that.
     
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    that's a little out there. Why don't you explain to us your version of history that makes that plausible.
     
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    Bully eluded to it earlier. In order for Bush's policy to work, you need an enemy...someone to rally against. Bin Laden is the face of that enemy. Once he gets captured, the short attention span of the American public is drawn to something else.

    The American public are very simple minded people. To get them to keep fighting, you need a face for the enemy. Bin Laden is really all they've got.
     
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    Bush's policy? You mean his policy to fight terrorists. You're right, that's way out there.

    Incorrect on many levels. One, the American people don't fight the war. the troops do. The attention span of the people is irrelevent. For you're argument to work what you would really need to mean is that the American peolpe won't tolerate a continued war on terrorism if bin Laden is caught. By extension then what you are saying is that the American people will see no need to fight the war on terror once bin Laden is caught. The American people aren't that simple minded. To say the American people are stupid enough to believe the war on terror would be over once bin Laden is caught is the statement of an elitist.
     

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