Anguille
Bane of the Urbane
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I do not scare very easily, perhaps thats one of the reasons why i'm an atheist
Talk to me about that when we're sharing a foxhole, eh?
That must be the oldest cliche' in the world.
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I do not scare very easily, perhaps thats one of the reasons why i'm an atheist
Talk to me about that when we're sharing a foxhole, eh?
I completely agree with your first sentence.
For the second one I would ask you, is God separate from you or any other being?
For your third assertion, Christians have historically 'saved' those who didn't want to be saved by conquering them. The Crusades killed many non-Christians.
As to the co-creators of our world. We do co-create our world by our thoughts, words and deeds. Dismissing that as goobledy gook or crap just demonstrates that your mind is closed to discourse with others.
The crusades were undertaken as a defensive measure when Islam was advancing and conquering and threatening the whole of Europe.
Any other incredibly intelligent b.s. you'd like to add?
I see. That is why they slaughtered fellow Christians Constinople. The crusades were expeditions of looting and slaughter, no better, and no worse, than the expeditions of the Moslems of the time.
Your curiosity may lessen when you see the lake of fire, and you may find out you still have it in you to fear after all.
I see. And that is how you understand the message of Jesus? A Deity that eternally tortures those that do not bend a knee to him? A very sociopathic Deity. A projection of a very sick mind.
Here's a novel idea... why don't you go join a muslim board and tell all your kind to KNOCK IT OFF... then maybe the world could see some peace. Oh that's right, you people have been KILLING each other and INFIDELS for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.... fat chance the world will EVER see you people stop the killing.
Pesky Muslims and their army bases in our lands... so aggressive! And when we try to make UN resolutions protecting people, they just veto them!!!
I'm right there with ya, Pale.
I hear people talking about fearing God and I don't think I understand why. I don't fear God, I trust God to do what is right for me. Sometimes I need lessons that aren't very pleasant, but I don't fear them or God for giving them to me. So I'm wondering if there's some way to take the phrase that I'm not understanding.
Atheists and other non-believers I would really appreciate it if you could not derail the thread, I really want to hear what other believers think without the usual flaming that accompanies "religious" threads.
Thanks
Ok, I *really* didn't want to step into this, because I have a splitting headache, and I know it's NOT going to be well received. BUT...
Pale - Kalam didn't fly a plane into a building and isn't responsible for what OTHER people do, whether or not he speaks out against it to your satisfaction. He's responsible for that HE does, and nothing more.
That said.. WTF are you two doing, and kindly knock it the hell off.
I'm not interested in the games that are played here, I'm searching for truth and understanding.
Riiiiiiiiiight.... AND THE OSCAR GOES TO...... neurosport.....i don't believe in God and yet i fear him.
it would be stupid not to !
i can joke about fucking little kids in the ass but i don't want to joke with God.
i think fear of God is not really related to whether you're an atheist or not. its whether you think the world owes you something or not. some people are stupid enough to think that it does. i don't believe that.
i also don't believe that i owe the world anything.
you can all go fuck yourselves
Here's a novel idea... why don't you go join a muslim board and tell all your kind to KNOCK IT OFF... then maybe the world could see some peace. Oh that's right, you people have been KILLING each other and INFIDELS for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.... fat chance the world will EVER see you people stop the killing.
Pesky Muslims and their army bases in our lands... so aggressive! And when we try to make UN resolutions protecting people, they just veto them!!!
I'm right there with ya, Pale.
Yeah right gurd... let's just not mention the bombing of the Marine Corp barracks, or the USS Cole, or the World Trade centers.... or any one of the other hundreds of bombings and terrorist acts done world wide by muslims... yeah.... let's just not bother with those "pesky" little details.....
That's a bit of truth right there.I'm not interested in the games that are played here, I'm searching for truth and understanding.
so you think God created internet so u could find the truth about him here ?
i'm sorry but you won't "find" anything.
it's just what you believe ...
I hear people talking about fearing God and I don't think I understand why. I don't fear God, I trust God to do what is right for me. Sometimes I need lessons that aren't very pleasant, but I don't fear them or God for giving them to me. So I'm wondering if there's some way to take the phrase that I'm not understanding.
Atheists and other non-believers I would really appreciate it if you could not derail the thread, I really want to hear what other believers think without the usual flaming that accompanies "religious" threads.
Thanks
i don't believe in God and yet i fear him.
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i think fear of God is not really related to whether you're an atheist or not.
LOL!"i don't believe in God and yet i fear him." If you're a guy, that's like saying that you suck cock but you're not gay. Is that what you think?
"Interesting. I used to fear the devil when I was a kid. The supernatural seemed more possible then." When did you find out there's no Santa Claus?
Amanda, seeing everything through the lens of god seems very unhealthy mentally, like you're losing your grip on reality. Even if there is a god (I'm agnostic), I doubt that it would want people to go through life obsessing about it. Like, it's ok to believe in aliens, but to obsess about seeing them everywhere all the time is a little overboard.
Amanda, seeing everything through the lens of god seems very unhealthy mentally, like you're losing your grip on reality. Even if there is a god (I'm agnostic), I doubt that it would want people to go through life obsessing about it. Like, it's ok to believe in aliens, but to obsess about seeing them everywhere all the time is a little overboard.
When have I been intolerant? A link would be helpful. Thanks.
Had you also accused her of intellectual dishonesty, you would have been pulling a perfect Ravi.
I'm not interested in the games that are played here, I'm searching for truth and understanding.
Pulling an Amanda: Taking a light hearted and obvious attempt at humor directed your way as a vicious personal attack and responding with self-righteous indignation.
Your curiosity may lessen when you see the lake of fire, and you may find out you still have it in you to fear after all.
I see. And that is how you understand the message of Jesus? A Deity that eternally tortures those that do not bend a knee to him? A very sociopathic Deity. A projection of a very sick mind.
All you have to do is accept Jesus and you're saved from the fire.
Nobody else is worthy to be in the presence of a perfect being.Makes sense to me.