CDZ Do those who push gun control think there are no actual threats?

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    There are no high powered guns?

    There are no high capacity magazines?

    I missed something.
     
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    So did I...I thought he was saying the magazines were high powered.......and no... a standard size magazine that comes with the pistol is not high capacity....that term was created to scare the uninformed into going along with banning magazines......it is the typical anti gun bait and switch......those who don't pay attention think that a high capacity magazine is a 100 round drum magazine for rifles......so they want those banned....then, of course, the anti gunners switch what they really wanted banned, and ban 15 round magazines...the standard issue magazine for various models of pistol....making those pistols unusable...even though the owners never used them to commit any crime...it is a backdrop gun ban.
     
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    Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that gun control laws are not going to stop murderers. Do murder laws stop them? Duhhhhhhh.
     
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    So you are saying we shouldn't have murder laws?
     
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    Of course laws work. That is why no one has ever been shot in a gun free zone.
     
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    The simple fact is that the majority will exact the controls that the majority finds desirable. So, maintaining an inflexible position against the majority is a sure way to be frustrated. This poster doesn't care how many firearms people own or what type they are or how many bullets their clips or magazines hold.
    He doesn't care about the terminology involved.
    He does know that the statistical probability of finding oneself in a situation where a firearm will resolve a problem is very low.
    He does realize that the growing sense in America is that the fascination with firearms is unhealthy.
    He sees that steps may be taken to address this.
    He sees that the attitude of many firearm enthusiasts does not help their cause.
     
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    The general defense belongs to the States, not the Union; the Union is for the common defense.
     
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    Nope......what we are saying is focus on those who actually break the law....arrest them....don't worry about normal, law abiding people who own guns...they are not the ones shooting people or using their guns to commit crimes.

    If someone uses a gun to commit rape, robbery or murder...you can arrest them...just make sure to put them in jail for 30 years and you will actually be stopping gun crimes....

    But creating meaningless laws.....registration, licensing, and universal background checks, don't stop people from using guns to commit those crimes.......they target non criminals. They don't stop criminals, they don't stop mass shooters.....
     
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    Why is registration a meaningless law? Just before he pulled the trigger, Hodgkinson and Lanza and Roof were "law abiding citizens". After their crimes, whymshould the source of their weaponry be searched by hand by file clerks using 19th century technology?
     

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