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Oh, I would have shot something last week had I had my gun with me. Turned out for the best I did not, but I would if it happened again.
You nailed the hand gun reason.
I'm back to to thinking all guns need their ballistics logged and owner information split between the NRA, the ACLU and some group against the Patriot Act and DHS where the government has to get a warrent to obtain it.
I am curious....what would logging the ballistics do? Since guns used in crime are acquired illegally....and have a street life of about 9 years before they are found by police....how would knowing who the original owner is solve a crime.....used by a criminal who isn't the original owner?
Because it would tell us who sold it illegally.
We can do this two ways. We can fight the power of big government and repeal all the Patriot Act type oversteps like a bunch of hippies or we can protect our rights.
I see no movement in the Tea Coalition or whoever voted to protect our rights so...
Lets try to do this right instead of giving up on the grounds my shotgun or my buddy's AK are going to make a difference against the National Guard. (Speaking of balistics lol)
Actually, no, it doesn't. The people who straw buy report the gun stolen. Or the gun is actually stolen. So either way the gun has no connection to the original owner when it is used in a crime and eventually found...9 years later...which is the average life on the street of an illegal gun.......
You are of the mind to give up too easily. Just because people drive with suspended licenses doesn't mean we don't enforce laws.
Wait for my punishments for straw-buying or fake theft victims lol.
Law enforcement frequently works in slow methodical ways. It is totally possible to rob a railcar sitting in a siding as it moves between LATC and Anapra and get away with it. Its more difficult to do it a few times and not get caught as the times and places are narrowed down.
I do understand your dislike of registering firearms. The good news is I suspect I'll have your support on anti - big brother threads I have coming up I suppose..
I already had to get fingerprinted like a common criminal just to carry a gun I am legally eligible to ownOh, I would have shot something last week had I had my gun with me. Turned out for the best I did not, but I would if it happened again.
You nailed the hand gun reason.
I'm back to to thinking all guns need their ballistics logged and owner information split between the NRA, the ACLU and some group against the Patriot Act and DHS where the government has to get a warrent to obtain it.
Correction - that is your right to bear.I already had to get fingerprinted like a common criminal just to carry a gun I am legally eligible to ownOh, I would have shot something last week had I had my gun with me. Turned out for the best I did not, but I would if it happened again.
You nailed the hand gun reason.
I'm back to to thinking all guns need their ballistics logged and owner information split between the NRA, the ACLU and some group against the Patriot Act and DHS where the government has to get a warrent to obtain it.
A firearm is a firearm is a firearm.If reasonable limits are not self imposed, they are imposed externally.
Owning a firearm is one thing. Carrying is another. High powered, high capacity firearms are yet another.
Seat belts, motorcycle helmets and alarm systems are designed exclusively to kill people. Handguns are. Seat belts, motorcycle helmets and alarm systems are wise precautionary things. Carrying a gun is extreme and caters to that paranoia. Or, more unfortunately, carrying a gun reinforces the Dirty Harry complex. The Hero Gunslinger complex. What my sainted father called "small man's syndrome".Do we have to assume there is a constant and imminent threat to want guns for all? And if we do assume that such a threat exists, does that, or does that not effect our thinking on when and where gunplay is appropriate?
Personally, I do not feel threatened. Consequently I do not think a gun is a safe, appropriate or viable action to take. Perhaps your circumstances are different. I hope not. For to think your life hangs on such a slender thread must be emotionally exhausting. To live with such paranoia must push away every other consideration.
And neither do gun owners who choose to carry a gun for self defense. There is no paranoia, the same way there is no paranoia when they buckle their seat belt, put on their helmet for the motorcycle, or put in an alarm system for the home.....there is an understanding, without any more emotion than carrying a cell phone, that some people are the victim of violent crimes....and those victims never know when or where it will happen. The gun is of no more concern than the cell phone, or the wallet for the gun owner........
You guys are the ones who actually obsess about guns.......and live in fear of guns that you never see, or know are being carried right under your noses....
If reasonable limits are not self imposed, they are imposed externally.
Owning a firearm is one thing. Carrying is another. High powered, high capacity firearms are yet another.
When it makes a difference to the population surrounding you in a culture, it makes a difference.
If you own a gun, there are plenty of threats.....
Muslims
Mexicans
Black males
Your neighbors dog
Your daughters boyfriend
And in your caseIf you own a gun, there are plenty of threats.....
Muslims
Mexicans
Black males
Your neighbors dog
Your daughters boyfriend
Yes...those folks (a word obama liked to use) in the Orlando nightclub must feel really silly since you seem to think muslim terrorists aren't a threat....
As do the Mexican Citizens murdered by Mexican drug cartels in the 10s of thousands right across our border.....
And black males are the ones who are afraid of other black males......
Dog attacks...they actually do happen....
And the boyfriend....I remember the T.V. news show where the girl was stabbed over 40 times by her exboyfriend..
yep..nothing to worry about in that list...
And in your caseIf you own a gun, there are plenty of threats.....
Muslims
Mexicans
Black males
Your neighbors dog
Your daughters boyfriend
Yes...those folks (a word obama liked to use) in the Orlando nightclub must feel really silly since you seem to think muslim terrorists aren't a threat....
As do the Mexican Citizens murdered by Mexican drug cartels in the 10s of thousands right across our border.....
And black males are the ones who are afraid of other black males......
Dog attacks...they actually do happen....
And the boyfriend....I remember the T.V. news show where the girl was stabbed over 40 times by her exboyfriend..
yep..nothing to worry about in that list...
There is the threat of Nazi invasion
And in your caseIf you own a gun, there are plenty of threats.....
Muslims
Mexicans
Black males
Your neighbors dog
Your daughters boyfriend
Yes...those folks (a word obama liked to use) in the Orlando nightclub must feel really silly since you seem to think muslim terrorists aren't a threat....
As do the Mexican Citizens murdered by Mexican drug cartels in the 10s of thousands right across our border.....
And black males are the ones who are afraid of other black males......
Dog attacks...they actually do happen....
And the boyfriend....I remember the T.V. news show where the girl was stabbed over 40 times by her exboyfriend..
yep..nothing to worry about in that list...
There is the threat of Nazi invasion
No.....we defeated the national socialists in the 40s........with guns.
And in your caseIf you own a gun, there are plenty of threats.....
Muslims
Mexicans
Black males
Your neighbors dog
Your daughters boyfriend
Yes...those folks (a word obama liked to use) in the Orlando nightclub must feel really silly since you seem to think muslim terrorists aren't a threat....
As do the Mexican Citizens murdered by Mexican drug cartels in the 10s of thousands right across our border.....
And black males are the ones who are afraid of other black males......
Dog attacks...they actually do happen....
And the boyfriend....I remember the T.V. news show where the girl was stabbed over 40 times by her exboyfriend..
yep..nothing to worry about in that list...
There is the threat of Nazi invasion
No.....we defeated the national socialists in the 40s........with guns.
Armor , air superiority and bombs
The commanders in chief of that which is declared necessary to the security of a free State; must have (defense in depth) plans to win; we have a Second Amendment.This is a study by a german group that found....amazingly.....that the primary driver of gun ownership is fear....of criminals.....and that in order to push gun control and disarming gun owners, there will need to be a way to erase this fear of criminals from the gun owner's mind.......
Now the question......do left wing, anti-gunners think there is no such thing as violent criminal attack? Or governments that murder their own people? And this, coming from a German......do they teach German history in German schools?
So.....as one response to the article pointed out.....is buying a fire extinguisher, car insurance, home insurance teaching kids stop, drop and roll....are they acts of fear, or acts of intelligence...?
New Study: Handgun Owners Are Motivated By Fear - The Truth About Guns
“New research finds the strongest motivation to buy handguns is the vague but deeply held perception that we live in a dangerous world,” psmag.com reports. Huh. Who’d a guessed it?
Ah, but the troika of academics behind Is It a Dangerous World Out There?: The Motivational Bases of American Gun Ownership reckon that handgun buyers are motivated by “two distinct impulses.”
Which would be “the specific perceived threat of assault, and a diffuse threat of a dangerous world.” So it’s the difference between that guy might try to kill me vs. someone might try to kill me. Guess which one’s the stronger of the two?
A research team led by University of Groningen psychologist Wolfgang Stroebe [not shown] reports that second, vague notion of potential peril is the stronger of the two—and the one most resistant to rethinking.
Wait. Who said that handgun owners need to stop thinking they live in a dangerous world? Why would they want to do that? Oh right.
Someone who doesn’t want Americans to keep and bear handguns! ‘Cause if they “rethought” their world view, seeing the world for the unicorn pooping rainbows place that it really is, they’d stop buying and carrying handguns and the world would be safer!
Yeah, not buying it.
“This [resistance] could make it difficult to conduct persuasion campaigns aimed at dissuading handgun owners of the need to own a gun (or support limitations on gun ownership),” they write. That’s because “a broader system of beliefs about the nature of the social world, and what people are like, is extremely difficult to influence.”
Not to go all Godwin’s Law, but perhaps Goebbels‘ ghost would like to opine on how anti-gunners could “influence” gun owners’ “broader system of beliefs about the nature of the social world” to convince handgun owners to surrender their firearms or make it exceedingly difficult for a civilian to own one?
No matter how you look at it, this particular piece of academic anti-gun animus is a special blend of stupid and scary. Which is why the Huffington Post was on it like Scott Diseck on anything female. Their story New Study Says Fear of Crime, Danger Drives American Handgun Ownership is helpfully sub-headed Handgun owners are more fearful of crime, even when it is unlikely.
“While the primary goal of the research is to serve as a building block for further study, Stroebe does think there’s some practical application. ‘If we want to help people conquer their fears, we have to recognize that a sense of threat can have multiple layers and each layer may have to be addressed separately,’ he said.”
Seat belts, motorcycle helmets and alarm systems are designed exclusively to kill people. Handguns are. Seat belts, motorcycle helmets and alarm systems are wise precautionary things. Carrying a gun is extreme and caters to that paranoia. Or, more unfortunately, carrying a gun reinforces the Dirty Harry complex. The Hero Gunslinger complex. What my sainted father called "small man's syndrome".Do we have to assume there is a constant and imminent threat to want guns for all? And if we do assume that such a threat exists, does that, or does that not effect our thinking on when and where gunplay is appropriate?
Personally, I do not feel threatened. Consequently I do not think a gun is a safe, appropriate or viable action to take. Perhaps your circumstances are different. I hope not. For to think your life hangs on such a slender thread must be emotionally exhausting. To live with such paranoia must push away every other consideration.
And neither do gun owners who choose to carry a gun for self defense. There is no paranoia, the same way there is no paranoia when they buckle their seat belt, put on their helmet for the motorcycle, or put in an alarm system for the home.....there is an understanding, without any more emotion than carrying a cell phone, that some people are the victim of violent crimes....and those victims never know when or where it will happen. The gun is of no more concern than the cell phone, or the wallet for the gun owner........
You guys are the ones who actually obsess about guns.......and live in fear of guns that you never see, or know are being carried right under your noses....
