Discussing politics with people who don't share your views........

[ABikerSailor]

I have told both neo-Cons and Liberals why I disagree vehemently with them.
Neo-Cons will discuss.
Liberals go insane...eyes bug out, head does an Exorcist 360, shortness of breathe and then they storm away.

Well put. I never discuss politics with people until I know them. When people bring it up to me, I say something neutral. Trump supporters will usually realize I don't want to talk about politics and drop it. Leftists will keep pushing it

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

What about the Trump tow truck driver that left a disabled Bernie supporter stranded, just because she had a bumper sticker on her car?

Pro-Trump tow truck driver leaves disabled Sanders supporter stranded

On Monday, a Donald Trump-supporting tow truck driver outside Asheville, North Carolina, responded to a call from a driver with disabilities.


When the tow truck driver saw the stranded motorist’s Bernie Sanders sticker, Fox Carolina reported, he aborted the pick-up and left her on the side of the highway.


According to Fox Carolina: “Kenneth Shupe said he was called to pick up a woman stranded on I-26 in Asheville on Monday.


“When he saw ‘a bunch of Bernie Sanders stuff’, he said he told the woman ‘very politely’ that he couldn’t tow her car because she was ‘obviously a socialist’.


Shupe “advised her to ‘call the government’ for a tow”, the report said, adding: “Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid … every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with an ‘e’ not a ‘u’.’”

I gave you examples of thousands of people. You gave me one person

Doesn't change the fact that there are idiots on both sides. You happen to qualify as one by the way.

 

[kaz]

Well Mac, you can see it here on these boards everyday. I think that the anonymous nature of message boards makes people less likely to compromise.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

You answered, I commented on your post. Too bad

 

[Indeependent]

I have told both neo-Cons and Liberals why I disagree vehemently with them.
Neo-Cons will discuss.
Liberals go insane...eyes bug out, head does an Exorcist 360, shortness of breathe and then they storm away.

Well put. I never discuss politics with people until I know them. When people bring it up to me, I say something neutral. Trump supporters will usually realize I don't want to talk about politics and drop it. Leftists will keep pushing it

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

What about the Trump tow truck driver that left a disabled Bernie supporter stranded, just because she had a bumper sticker on her car?

Pro-Trump tow truck driver leaves disabled Sanders supporter stranded

On Monday, a Donald Trump-supporting tow truck driver outside Asheville, North Carolina, responded to a call from a driver with disabilities.


When the tow truck driver saw the stranded motorist’s Bernie Sanders sticker, Fox Carolina reported, he aborted the pick-up and left her on the side of the highway.


According to Fox Carolina: “Kenneth Shupe said he was called to pick up a woman stranded on I-26 in Asheville on Monday.


“When he saw ‘a bunch of Bernie Sanders stuff’, he said he told the woman ‘very politely’ that he couldn’t tow her car because she was ‘obviously a socialist’.


Shupe “advised her to ‘call the government’ for a tow”, the report said, adding: “Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid … every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with an ‘e’ not a ‘u’.’”

I gave you examples of thousands of people. You gave me one person

Doesn't change the fact that there are idiots on both sides. You happen to qualify as one by the way.

And you just did “The Liberal”; as you always do.

 

[westwall]

You know, there has been a lot of talk (mostly by comedians) about how people like to live in an echo chamber and only talk with others who think like them. Some have said that discussing politics with someone who doesn't agree with you is a way to mend the divide and learn compromise. Face to face negotiation has been proven to lead to compromise and understanding.

Turns out that ain't the case when it comes to the Internet. Seems that if you are discussing politics with a person different than your group can actually be worse than living in a bubble, because people will dig in even harder in their views. I guess the lack of face to face communication is what causes it to happen.

Caught in a political echo chamber? Listening to the opposition can make partisanship even worse

Dwelling in a political echo chamber — where you only encounter people who agree with you — is hardly conducive to a healthy democracy.


But it turns out that broadening your horizons by perusing opposing points of view on social media may just make the partisan divide worse.


That’s the depressing result of an unusual experiment involving 909 Democrats and 751 Republicans who spend a lot of time on Twitter.


“Attempts to introduce people to a broad range of opposing political views on a social media site such as Twitter might be not only ineffective but counterproductive,” researchers reported this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.




Political polarization is on the rise in America, and the results aren’t pretty, the study authors explained.


“Americans are deeply divided on controversial issues such as inequality, gun control, and immigration,” they wrote. “Partisan divisions not only impede compromise in the design and implementation of social policies but also have far-reaching consequences for the effective function of democracy more broadly.”


The researchers, led by Duke University sociologist Christopher Bail, set out to do something about this problem by harnessing the power of Twitter.


They already knew people become more inclined to compromise on political issues when they spend time with people who hold opposing views. Face-to-face meetings can override negative stereotypes about our adversaries, paving the way for negotiation.

I think the study is flawed for one very important reason. It is impossible to carry on a reasoned exchange of ideas via twitter. There is nowhere near enough space to expound on an idea. The study was doomed to this result from the offing.

 

[kaz]

I have told both neo-Cons and Liberals why I disagree vehemently with them.
Neo-Cons will discuss.
Liberals go insane...eyes bug out, head does an Exorcist 360, shortness of breathe and then they storm away.

Well put. I never discuss politics with people until I know them. When people bring it up to me, I say something neutral. Trump supporters will usually realize I don't want to talk about politics and drop it. Leftists will keep pushing it

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

What about the Trump tow truck driver that left a disabled Bernie supporter stranded, just because she had a bumper sticker on her car?

Pro-Trump tow truck driver leaves disabled Sanders supporter stranded

On Monday, a Donald Trump-supporting tow truck driver outside Asheville, North Carolina, responded to a call from a driver with disabilities.


When the tow truck driver saw the stranded motorist’s Bernie Sanders sticker, Fox Carolina reported, he aborted the pick-up and left her on the side of the highway.


According to Fox Carolina: “Kenneth Shupe said he was called to pick up a woman stranded on I-26 in Asheville on Monday.


“When he saw ‘a bunch of Bernie Sanders stuff’, he said he told the woman ‘very politely’ that he couldn’t tow her car because she was ‘obviously a socialist’.


Shupe “advised her to ‘call the government’ for a tow”, the report said, adding: “Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid … every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with an ‘e’ not a ‘u’.’”

I gave you examples of thousands of people. You gave me one person

Doesn't change the fact that there are idiots on both sides. You happen to qualify as one by the way.

If your point was that there is at least one idiot on both sides, then congratulations. I award you with an honorary degree as master of the obvious

And yes, I know you're an authoritarian leftist who believes anyone who thinks we should be allowed to make our own choices is a lunatic. That's not new information either. Just FYI, government has demonstrated none of these magical powers to make our lives better by making our choices for us that you ascribe to them.

You on the other hand do normal things like call people racists and tell them that your military experience taught you how useless guns are for defending yourself

 

[Nosmo King]

Well Mac, you can see it here on these boards everyday. I think that the anonymous nature of message boards makes people less likely to compromise.

The problem with compromising with you is that every compromise that I give you limits my freedom while every compromise you give me expands yours

How is that so? Freedom is not a zero sum game. By extending the same freedoms to those with whom you disagree does nothing to erode your own freedoms.

When marriage equality became the law of the land, were your freedoms threatened? When the Civil Rights and Voter's Rights bills were signed, did you lose civil rights or voter's rights?

The only 'freedom' many Conservatives actually lost was the 'freedom' to be openly bigoted and proud of that bigotry. But those 'freedoms' were rescinded by society, not the state.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I have told both neo-Cons and Liberals why I disagree vehemently with them.
Neo-Cons will discuss.
Liberals go insane...eyes bug out, head does an Exorcist 360, shortness of breathe and then they storm away.

Well put. I never discuss politics with people until I know them. When people bring it up to me, I say something neutral. Trump supporters will usually realize I don't want to talk about politics and drop it. Leftists will keep pushing it

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

What about the Trump tow truck driver that left a disabled Bernie supporter stranded, just because she had a bumper sticker on her car?

Pro-Trump tow truck driver leaves disabled Sanders supporter stranded

On Monday, a Donald Trump-supporting tow truck driver outside Asheville, North Carolina, responded to a call from a driver with disabilities.


When the tow truck driver saw the stranded motorist’s Bernie Sanders sticker, Fox Carolina reported, he aborted the pick-up and left her on the side of the highway.


According to Fox Carolina: “Kenneth Shupe said he was called to pick up a woman stranded on I-26 in Asheville on Monday.


“When he saw ‘a bunch of Bernie Sanders stuff’, he said he told the woman ‘very politely’ that he couldn’t tow her car because she was ‘obviously a socialist’.


Shupe “advised her to ‘call the government’ for a tow”, the report said, adding: “Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid … every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with an ‘e’ not a ‘u’.’”

I gave you examples of thousands of people. You gave me one person

Doesn't change the fact that there are idiots on both sides. You happen to qualify as one by the way.

If your point was that there is at least one idiot on both sides, then congratulations. I award you with an honorary degree as master of the obvious

And yes, I know you're an authoritarian leftist who believes anyone who thinks we should be allowed to make our own choices is a lunatic. That's not new information either. Just FYI, government has demonstrated none of these magical powers to make our lives better by making our choices for us that you ascribe to them.

You on the other hand do normal things like call people racists and tell them that your military experience taught you how useless guns are for defending yourself

Actually, I believe that people should be able to make a lot of choices for themselves. That includes abortion, smoking marijuana and having a gun. Yes, I believe that responsible gun ownership is a good thing. I grew up hunting in the mountains of Montana. But, you notice I said RESPONSIBLE. That means you shouldn't be able to buy them if you are nuts or on mind altering medication long term. But, I also believe that there needs to be some kind of framework for getting things done like infrastructure.

By the way....................I challenge you to find a post where I said that guns were useless for defending oneself. Never have I said something like that. But, in your fevered partisan brain, you may have interpreted it that way. Bring up the full post and show where I said that.

 

[tycho1572]

Well Mac, you can see it here on these boards everyday. I think that the anonymous nature of message boards makes people less likely to compromise.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

The left "debates" on emotion. The right on logic

There’s also a level of ignorance involved.
I saw that when a leftist woman at work joined me for lunch. I don’t think she’ll be doing that again. lol

 

[kaz]

Well Mac, you can see it here on these boards everyday. I think that the anonymous nature of message boards makes people less likely to compromise.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

It's only leftists that are out publicly calling for publicly confronting the other side. You may not like "wingers," but it sure isn't equally

 

[Mac1958]

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

It's only leftists that are out publicly calling for publicly confronting the other side. You may not like "wingers," but it sure isn't equally

Well, you're the arbiter.
.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

It's only leftists that are out publicly calling for publicly confronting the other side. You may not like "wingers," but it sure isn't equally

What about when Trump said he would pay for the legal expenses of those that beat up protesters?

If you beat up a protester at Trump’s rally, he’ll cover your legal fees.

If you beat up a protester at Trump’s rally, he’ll cover your legal fees.
After receiving a notice from his security that someone might be planning to throw tomatoes at him (again), Trump told his supporters to “knock the crap out of them … I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.” The crowd vociferously cheered him on.

Trump to Iowa rally supporters: "If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them." MSNBC on Twitter

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 1, 2016
This isn’t the first time Trump has condoned violence—last year he told Fox News that a Black Lives Matter activist who got attacked at his rally “should have been roughed up.” Say what you will about George W. Bush, but when confronted with a projectile all he did was duck.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Well Mac, you can see it here on these boards everyday. I think that the anonymous nature of message boards makes people less likely to compromise.

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

The left "debates" on emotion. The right on logic

There’s also a level of ignorance involved.
I saw that when a leftist woman at work joined me for lunch. I don’t think she’ll be doing that again. lol

You debate one leftist you've debated them all, same talking points and when you corner them they scream "you racist, bigoted, homophobe!!!!" and run away

 

[kaz]

I have told both neo-Cons and Liberals why I disagree vehemently with them.
Neo-Cons will discuss.
Liberals go insane...eyes bug out, head does an Exorcist 360, shortness of breathe and then they storm away.

Well put. I never discuss politics with people until I know them. When people bring it up to me, I say something neutral. Trump supporters will usually realize I don't want to talk about politics and drop it. Leftists will keep pushing it

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

What about the Trump tow truck driver that left a disabled Bernie supporter stranded, just because she had a bumper sticker on her car?

Pro-Trump tow truck driver leaves disabled Sanders supporter stranded

On Monday, a Donald Trump-supporting tow truck driver outside Asheville, North Carolina, responded to a call from a driver with disabilities.


When the tow truck driver saw the stranded motorist’s Bernie Sanders sticker, Fox Carolina reported, he aborted the pick-up and left her on the side of the highway.


According to Fox Carolina: “Kenneth Shupe said he was called to pick up a woman stranded on I-26 in Asheville on Monday.


“When he saw ‘a bunch of Bernie Sanders stuff’, he said he told the woman ‘very politely’ that he couldn’t tow her car because she was ‘obviously a socialist’.


Shupe “advised her to ‘call the government’ for a tow”, the report said, adding: “Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid … every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with an ‘e’ not a ‘u’.’”

I gave you examples of thousands of people. You gave me one person

Doesn't change the fact that there are idiots on both sides. You happen to qualify as one by the way.

If your point was that there is at least one idiot on both sides, then congratulations. I award you with an honorary degree as master of the obvious

And yes, I know you're an authoritarian leftist who believes anyone who thinks we should be allowed to make our own choices is a lunatic. That's not new information either. Just FYI, government has demonstrated none of these magical powers to make our lives better by making our choices for us that you ascribe to them.

You on the other hand do normal things like call people racists and tell them that your military experience taught you how useless guns are for defending yourself

Actually, I believe that people should be able to make a lot of choices for themselves. That includes abortion, smoking marijuana and having a gun. Yes, I believe that responsible gun ownership is a good thing. I grew up hunting in the mountains of Montana. But, you notice I said RESPONSIBLE. That means you shouldn't be able to buy them if you are nuts or on mind altering medication long term. But, I also believe that there needs to be some kind of framework for getting things done like infrastructure.

By the way....................I challenge you to find a post where I said that guns were useless for defending oneself. Never have I said something like that. But, in your fevered partisan brain, you may have interpreted it that way. Bring up the full post and show where I said that.

It's what you vote for and your only defense is that you were silent to that.

And of course, you pick three things that a libertarian supports, legal abortion, drugs and guns. You don't mention the monstrous socialist economy that you support or the business crippling regulations either. Even if you are to be believed, you have three things that neither of us have to compromise on. Then everything else you support is exactly as I said. Every compromise with me expands your freedom and my every compromise with you restricts mine.

And race baiting is completely unlibertarian to get that socialist monstrosity. No one cares the Obama was black who opposes him other than a few swamp monkeys and they are on both sides. That's why I treat Obama with the contempt of Gore, Bill, Hillary, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid and a bunch of other leftist idiots who's asses are white.

I'm not harder on him because he's black. But I don't have to be easier on him because he's black either, race baiter

 

[kaz]

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

It's only leftists that are out publicly calling for publicly confronting the other side. You may not like "wingers," but it sure isn't equally

Well, you're the arbiter.
.

Actually, I just have an opinion. I have a right to that. Fuck the shit out of you

 

[kaz]

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

And when you turn on hearings, it's leftists screaming and disrupting. It's leftists kicking people out of their restaurants. It's leftists to tried to stop Trump supporters physically from getting to his rallies. It's leftists who stopped anyone they disagreed with from speaking at Berkeley.

But you admitted what I said, you're not observant or just flat out biased, you don't see it

Of course I'm biased. I'm not a big fan of wingers on either end.

You asked, I answered. Too bad.
.

It's only leftists that are out publicly calling for publicly confronting the other side. You may not like "wingers," but it sure isn't equally

What about when Trump said he would pay for the legal expenses of those that beat up protesters?

If you beat up a protester at Trump’s rally, he’ll cover your legal fees.

If you beat up a protester at Trump’s rally, he’ll cover your legal fees.
After receiving a notice from his security that someone might be planning to throw tomatoes at him (again), Trump told his supporters to “knock the crap out of them … I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.” The crowd vociferously cheered him on.

Trump to Iowa rally supporters: "If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them." MSNBC on Twitter

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 1, 2016
This isn’t the first time Trump has condoned violence—last year he told Fox News that a Black Lives Matter activist who got attacked at his rally “should have been roughed up.” Say what you will about George W. Bush, but when confronted with a projectile all he did was duck.

That's another lie. He said if the protester starts it, he's pay their legal fees if they fight back. He didn't say he would pay for assaulting the protester. Leftists can't open your mouth without lying

 

[kaz]

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
.

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
.

The left "debates" on emotion. The right on logic

There’s also a level of ignorance involved.
I saw that when a leftist woman at work joined me for lunch. I don’t think she’ll be doing that again. lol

You debate one leftist you've debated them all, same talking points and when you corner them they scream "you racist, bigoted, homophobe!!!!" and run away

That is so literally true. They will just pick the closest DNC talking point to whatever you say and parrot it

 

[Yarddog]

You know, there has been a lot of talk (mostly by comedians) about how people like to live in an echo chamber and only talk with others who think like them. Some have said that discussing politics with someone who doesn't agree with you is a way to mend the divide and learn compromise. Face to face negotiation has been proven to lead to compromise and understanding.

Turns out that ain't the case when it comes to the Internet. Seems that if you are discussing politics with a person different than your group can actually be worse than living in a bubble, because people will dig in even harder in their views. I guess the lack of face to face communication is what causes it to happen.

Caught in a political echo chamber? Listening to the opposition can make partisanship even worse

Dwelling in a political echo chamber — where you only encounter people who agree with you — is hardly conducive to a healthy democracy.


But it turns out that broadening your horizons by perusing opposing points of view on social media may just make the partisan divide worse.


That’s the depressing result of an unusual experiment involving 909 Democrats and 751 Republicans who spend a lot of time on Twitter.


“Attempts to introduce people to a broad range of opposing political views on a social media site such as Twitter might be not only ineffective but counterproductive,” researchers reported this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.




Political polarization is on the rise in America, and the results aren’t pretty, the study authors explained.


“Americans are deeply divided on controversial issues such as inequality, gun control, and immigration,” they wrote. “Partisan divisions not only impede compromise in the design and implementation of social policies but also have far-reaching consequences for the effective function of democracy more broadly.”


The researchers, led by Duke University sociologist Christopher Bail, set out to do something about this problem by harnessing the power of Twitter.


They already knew people become more inclined to compromise on political issues when they spend time with people who hold opposing views. Face-to-face meetings can override negative stereotypes about our adversaries, paving the way for negotiation.

Thats why its Always better discussing politics over a big lunch. Even if you wildly disagree, stuffing yourself with pasta will prevent all the blood rushing to peoples heads. And no matter how bad it gets, they can at least leave the table partially satisfied and look forward to the next meeting

 

[tycho1572]

What concerns me is that I'm seeing more and more of this manic behavior in real life. More and more people I talk to and see are walking around, one inch away from completely losing their shit on someone. Screaming, not listening, ever.
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And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
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The left "debates" on emotion. The right on logic

There’s also a level of ignorance involved.
I saw that when a leftist woman at work joined me for lunch. I don’t think she’ll be doing that again. lol

You debate one leftist you've debated them all, same talking points and when you corner them they scream "you racist, bigoted, homophobe!!!!" and run away

That particular woman has known me for years from work. She knows I’m in the habit of respecting everyone.

She sat down when she noticed I was watching Fox News. That’s when I realized she was a leftist.
That’s also when she learned I’m a Trump supporter.

 

[kaz]

And you don't even notice the high correlation with them being leftists, do you?

No, not at all. Sometimes when talking with a new client about taxes, they go off on the same shallow, naive talking points I hear on talk radio and see here daily.

Lefties see more volatile and angry, Righties seem more trained and obedient.

Just my observation, of course.
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The left "debates" on emotion. The right on logic

There’s also a level of ignorance involved.
I saw that when a leftist woman at work joined me for lunch. I don’t think she’ll be doing that again. lol

You debate one leftist you've debated them all, same talking points and when you corner them they scream "you racist, bigoted, homophobe!!!!" and run away

That particular woman has known me for years from work. She knows I’m in the habit of respecting everyone.

She sat down when she noticed I was watching Fox News. That’s when I realized she was a leftist.
That’s also when she learned I’m a Trump supporter.

LOL, yes, they are nuts.

I work with a leftist. We walked in the break room and FoxNews was on. He said, "I can't watch Fox News and changed the channel to CNN without asking me." Then he asked about it. I said either is fine, I like a variety of channels. I never discuss politics at work or with people I don't know in general.

He's not a jerk, he's a nice guy. But he makes comments that he thinks I'm a Trump supporter since then. It amuses me, I haven't told him no, I'm not a Republican at all and didn't vote for them. Just not going to discuss it.

Trump supporters are overwhelmingly quiet about it at work. Leftists always make it known

 

[Lesh]

Newsflash.
We talk past each other.

There is no discussing anything with Trumpers and really not much chance of a real discussion with Republicans in general.

No matter what evidence is presented to them...the response is always

Hillary!!!....or Obama!!!!...

The only reason I bother is to counter their bullshit for any open minded people out there