difference between leftism and liberalism

[browsing deer]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

 

[Skylar]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

Liberal has a different meaning now than what you're using. If you say 'liberal', 99% of folks are going to think of modern left leaning folks.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Too bad the liberals in today's government practice leftism wholesale.

Making it a distinction without a difference.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Liberal has a different meaning now than what you're using. If you say 'liberal', 99% of folks are going to think of modern left leaning folks.

Correctly.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

Needs work, a lot of it actually, but to make the differentiation is a good thing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Insanity
Clinical insanity


Class dismissed

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Insanity
Clinical insanity


Class dismissed

What a shame for you that you live in a liberal nation, founded by liberals using the principles of liberalism. Oh well, as a I said, you are an American in name only, all non-liberals are.

 

[browsing deer]

It was an interesting point of view. Which gets polluted constantly.

 

[Little-Acorn]

There's always some faker who tries to claim the liberals of the 1700s (back when "liberal" meant supporting liberty) are no different from the disingenuous leftist totalitarians of today.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There's always some faker who tries to claim the liberals of the 1700s (back when "liberal" meant supporting liberty) are no different from the disingenuous leftist totalitarians of today.

The only difference between a liberal then and now is we don't live 250 years ago. They dealt with their world, we deal with ours. The same set of principles apply, you just don't approve of them for the most part.

 

[Pogo]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

Liberal has a different meaning now than what you're using. If you say 'liberal', 99% of folks are going to think of modern left leaning folks.

They'd be wrong. Liberalism views government like a referee and otherwise stands out of the way. Leftism (and rightism) are simply more active. My go-to example: declaring "all men are created equal" is Liberalism; trying to force it into practice via Affirmative Action is leftism.

That said, the OP's list here is pretty much an emotional meltdown that purports to ascribe personal traits to an entire philosophy -- which is always an absurdism.

 

[Pogo]

There's always some faker who tries to claim the liberals of the 1700s (back when "liberal" meant supporting liberty) are no different from the disingenuous leftist totalitarians of today.

They ARE different. That's the whole point. Conflating "left" and "Liberal" is simply disingenuous bullshit. So stop doing it.

Too bad the liberals in today's government practice leftism wholesale.

Making it a distinction without a difference.

Exactly --- which is why you need to learn that distinction.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Too bad the liberals in today's government practice leftism wholesale.

Making it a distinction without a difference.

"Liberals" today in government practice exactly the kind of "leftism" you described.

If anyone is "polluting" the title of "liberal", it's them.

Now by default, "liberal" means "bi-government totalitarian", regardless of attempts by those liberals to pretend there's still a difference.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Liberalism views government like a referee and otherwise stands out of the way.

That's hilarious.

Name ONE liberal in government today who does that.

Not just talks about it, but DOES it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberalism views government like a referee and otherwise stands out of the way.

That's hilarious.

Name ONE liberal in government today who does that.

Not just talks about it, but DOES it.

The head of the SEC. Play by the rules and all is good.

 

[Contumacious]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

Liberal has a different meaning now than what you're using. If you say 'liberal', 99% of folks are going to think of modern left leaning folks.

"Liberal" , AND AND AND "conservative" as use nowadays, are subterfuge for FASCISM

What is Fascism,


...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

 

[Little-Acorn]

There's always some faker who tries to claim the liberals of the 1700s (back when "liberal" meant supporting liberty) are no different from the disingenuous leftist totalitarians of today.

They ARE different. That's the whole point.

Not any more.

And THAT'S the whole point.

Your dreamy-headed wishful thinking has no resemblance to the reality of liberals in government today.

 

[Pogo]

Too bad the liberals in today's government practice leftism wholesale.

Making it a distinction without a difference.

"Liberals" today in government practice exactly the kind of "leftism" you described.

I'm clicking on your examples and the links don't work, but to the extent that's true, they can't be Liberals.

If anyone is "polluting" the title of "liberal", it's them.

Umm.... it's only you and your ilk making that conflation. And you've been trying to get away with it for a long time, but that doesn't make it any less bullshittious.

One of the major problems in American political consciousness today comes from a misrepresentation of the political spectrum. This is partly the result of a deliberate effort to put all of America's enemies (fascists and communists) into the same basket after World War II, and a deliberate effort by the American "Right" to classify everything that they oppose as "Leftist". After World War II the Republican Party was struggling for survival and was in the process of reinventing itself. Part of the political strategy of some Republicans was to portray the Democratic Party of Truman and Franklin D. Roosevelt as "Red," thereby associating "Liberalism" with "Socialism". It was a common tactic during the 1950s to accuse Democrats of being "Communists" or "Communist sympathizers", a tactic that worked well during the McCarthy era and has had a lasting impact on how Americans view politics. -- Redefining the Political Spectrum​

Now by default, "liberal" means "bi-government totalitarian", regardless of attempts by those liberals to pretend there's still a difference.

Wrong. Doesn't mean that and never did.

Liberalism first became a distinct political movement during the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among philosophers and economists in the Western world. Liberalism rejected the notions, common at the time, of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The 17th-century philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property,[11] while adding that governments must not violate these rights based on the social contract. Liberals opposed traditional conservatism and sought to replace absolutism in government with representative democracy and the rule of law. (Wiki)
​

Liberalism threw off the First and Second Estates (Clergy and Aristocracy) and distributed power to We the People -- the Third Estate. That is what it means.

 

[Pogo]

There's always some faker who tries to claim the liberals of the 1700s (back when "liberal" meant supporting liberty) are no different from the disingenuous leftist totalitarians of today.

They ARE different. That's the whole point.

Not any more.

And THAT'S the whole point.

Your dreamy-headed wishful thinking has no resemblance to the reality of liberals in government today.

The fact that you're too dim (and/or lazy) to tell the difference is not their problem or mine. It's actually yours.

 

[Pogo]

I am sufficiently aware there are differences. the leftists always confuse and conflate the two.

this was written by Karen Lehrman Bloch.


1. Liberalism is a political philosophy.

Leftism is a cult.

2. Liberalism espouses a core set of values and principles—freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press—that are applied to every situation in every country of the world.

Leftism espouses a fascist interpretation of said principles with a selective application that serves only to further the Leftist agenda.

3. Liberalism allows for different points of view. Liberals even respectfully listen to viewpoints that go against liberalism.

Leftists angrily silence all dissent.

4. Liberals celebrate individuality: each liberal is unique in both personal and political choices.

Leftism is built upon conformity. Leftists wear the same clothes, speak the same coded language, think the same thoughts. If they don’t, they are immediately outed and ousted.

5. Liberals do not fear being disliked for their beliefs: they would rather be right and out of fashion.

Leftists hate being disliked, and would rather die than have unfashionable beliefs.

6. Liberals have great compassion for the suffering in the world.

Leftists have selective compassion. If the compassion serves the Leftist agenda, they will express it. If it doesn’t, they will ignore it.

7. Liberals think before they talk.

Leftists listen (to hear what other Leftists are saying) before they talk.

8. Politics is important to liberals, but it doesn’t come before family and friends.

Leftists will sell out their parents and children if it meant scoring points with fellow Leftists.

9. Leftists argue by name-calling, bullying, and ending friendships.

Liberals argue by using arguments.

10. Leftists think they are the smartest people in the room because they have advanced degrees.

Liberals don’t see higher education as a sign of advanced intelligence, and also know that intelligence and morality are often mutually exclusive: some of the smartest people have conceived of the most evil ideas.

11. Leftists see the role of universities as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see the role of universities as the enhancement of critical thinking.

12. Leftists see the role of the media as the indoctrination of Leftism.

Liberals see a distinct difference between objective reporting and opinion.

13. Leftists believe in factual relativism—“truth” is a concept to bend when necessary.

Liberals believe in truth and universal truths.

14. Leftists believe in moral relativism; if a trendy “victimized” culture is acting immorally that immorality must be overlooked and/or denied.

Liberals believe in universal morality.

15. Liberalism allows for all religious and spiritual beliefs.

Leftism replaces religion; it even replaces race.

16. Liberals tend to be happy, confident people, secure in their ability to navigate the world.

Leftists tend to be fearful, angry people who use their Leftism both to assuage their fears and as a bulldozer to navigate each day.

Btw OP .............. where the fuck is your link?