Did he cheat and win 9.6 million?

[Nutz]

Is Phil Ivey a cheater

Phil Ivey, one of the world's top poker players, is being sued by the Borgata Hotel Casino and Spa in Atlantic City, N.J. The casino accuses the poker star of noticing a defect in the cards being played during a baccarat session and parlaying that into a $9.6 million haul back in 2012...

I don't know, I think that the house always has the advantage and if the gambler finds a way to get the edge, good for him. Same idea of card counting...I think it is a legitimate practice, but if a casino catches you, they will throw you out and you will probably be banned from all casinos if you are good at it.

 

[Mertex]

Is Phil Ivey a cheater

Phil Ivey, one of the world's top poker players, is being sued by the Borgata Hotel Casino and Spa in Atlantic City, N.J. The casino accuses the poker star of noticing a defect in the cards being played during a baccarat session and parlaying that into a $9.6 million haul back in 2012...

I don't know, I think that the house always has the advantage and if the gambler finds a way to get the edge, good for him. Same idea of card counting...I think it is a legitimate practice, but if a casino catches you, they will throw you out and you will probably be banned from all casinos if you are good at it.

What a crock. If someone is able to figure something as obscure as the edges on the cards being different, then screw the casino.....that's their fault and the guy did nothing wrong. Casinos have the machines set so that they only pay out so much....that should be against the rules, if it's all supposed to be left to "luck"...

I hope it (the casino) loses.

 

[Nutz]

Here is how they cheated! I don't know, maybe the casino does have a point.
How Phil Ivey Beat (Or Maybe Cheated) A Casino For Millions

The previous night he and his unnamed companion, a Chinese woman from Las Vegas, started with a million-pound stake and played punto banco in a private room until they lost a half million pounds. They asked to raise the stakes, from 50,000 pounds per hand to 150,000. The club agreed. Soon Ivey and company were up almost two million. They agreed to come back and play again the next night only if the club agreed to keep the exact same cards for them to use. "Superstition," the mysterious woman explained. Crockfords agreed.

The next night when Ivey and his friend returned to play, the woman insisted that the dealers turn certain cards 180 degrees before putting them into the shoe to deal. Again, Ivey is superstitious, she explained. He also happened to be a very good tipper. The club again agreed to the unusual request. A few hours later, Ivey and his partner had won more than seven million pounds.

There are a few forces at work here. First, casinos bend over backwards to accommodate peculiar superstitions by big time gamblers—especially at table games in which the house has the edge—and Ivey is one of the biggest gamblers who's going to walk through your doors.

On the other hand, come on, guys. In the Borgata incident, Ivey's partner, identified as Cheng Yin Sun, allegedly requested a Chinese dealer so that she could make her requests in Mandarin. But still, this is a well known method of cheating, and as soon as a player begins making requests like this, a lot of bosses would, without being rude, try to eyeball if they're getting an advantage from something like edge sorting. This apparently never happened, even as Ivey returned multiple times over several months during 2012.

 

[Mertex]

I still agree with the comment made by one of the people commenting on the article, I don't think you can consider that cheating as much as using all the expertise you can.


It's the setting up of the deck that skirts cheating. However, the casino was the one DOING the requests, which is where I would call it good. He himself didn't modify the equipment in any way shape or form. It would be like asking that a roulette ball be dropped at a certain point when the wheel is at a certain spot. Not cheating, but the pit boss should look at that and go "Yeah, we're not gonna do that."

 

[Dot Com]

i was watching a big poker match the other day & the guy was wearing sunglasses!!! Looked youngish too (<40) They can make millions in one sitting.

 

[Politico]

He figured it out. Good for him.

 

[Grandma]

Yep. He should get to keep the money.