Did America Turn Into Communism After Citizens United?

[AntiParty]

Did America Turn Into Communism After Citizens United?


Nope. Long before.

They've been turning toward communism (actually socialism, not much significant difference at this stage) since at least the 1930s.

Citizens United decision, if anything, backtracked a little as the Supreme Court decided that people had the right to see their political spending protected as political speech (the main purpose of that part of the 1st amendment), and so forbade government from regulating as much as they had been. Whether the people were acting individually or in groups.

Citizens United basically stated "Corporations are People" and gave them the same voting rights as people without notating that not everyone in one industry is in the same party and not a "people". It's directly against the Constitution to force someone to vote a specific way, we do we allow this? Not everyone in "GE" is in one party.

You trying to say Citizens United is a step in the (R)ight direction doesn't surprise me

Forced to vote a specific way, really? You're losing it, no one is forced to vote or invest in a corporation.

A corporation is not a Corporate owner. This is your flaw. Christie Walton is not Wal-Mart, correct? Yet if Christie Walton decides to give to a politician she can do so under Wal-Mart. The topic isn't hard to comprehend. Not everyone who works for Wal-Mart, invests in the stocks at Wal-Mart wants to vote the same way. This is just one Corp of the many.

Just taking a VERY basic example to try to wake your brain up.

 

[AntiParty]

It's ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN IN 2015 that Corporations run and control our Government. If you haven't noticed that yet, you are a knuckle dragging idiot. The Politician is the puppet, not the master. The internet has opened up a way to research the funding to the puppets and you can get nearly down to the thousand facts on who pays for what party puppet.

So via the OP. Politicians own and run industry, because they are paid for by industry. Communism.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Communism is when Government Owns and Runs Industry.

Today In America;

Industry Owns and Runs Government.

A relatable point to all parties would be that 3 of Obama's top 10 donors were ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Some of us Americans are saying Obama is controlling the mainstream media. While others notate that ABC, CBS, and NBC are all Corporations that spent a hefty penny to see things their way.

No matter your perspective, the President has very little power unless he/she abuses it. Welcome to America 2015.

This makes no sense whatsoever – but that's the case for most of you posts.

It makes no sense to you because you don't know what Communism is. It's a typical response. You just know "commies are bad, m'kay"

This also makes no sense.

Citizens United was a First Amendment case, having nothing to do with who 'runs the government' or 'communism.'

 

[AntiParty]

Communism is when Government Owns and Runs Industry.

Today In America;

Industry Owns and Runs Government.

A relatable point to all parties would be that 3 of Obama's top 10 donors were ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Some of us Americans are saying Obama is controlling the mainstream media. While others notate that ABC, CBS, and NBC are all Corporations that spent a hefty penny to see things their way.

No matter your perspective, the President has very little power unless he/she abuses it. Welcome to America 2015.

Stupidest thread of the day. Keep up the good work.

Great post. So much info, I thought we were on a debate forum.

 

[OKTexas]

Did America Turn Into Communism After Citizens United?


Nope. Long before.

They've been turning toward communism (actually socialism, not much significant difference at this stage) since at least the 1930s.

Citizens United decision, if anything, backtracked a little as the Supreme Court decided that people had the right to see their political spending protected as political speech (the main purpose of that part of the 1st amendment), and so forbade government from regulating as much as they had been. Whether the people were acting individually or in groups.

Citizens United basically stated "Corporations are People" and gave them the same voting rights as people without notating that not everyone in one industry is in the same party and not a "people". It's directly against the Constitution to force someone to vote a specific way, we do we allow this? Not everyone in "GE" is in one party.

You trying to say Citizens United is a step in the (R)ight direction doesn't surprise me

Forced to vote a specific way, really? You're losing it, no one is forced to vote or invest in a corporation.

A corporation is not a Corporate owner. This is your flaw. Christie Walton is not Wal-Mart, correct? Yet if Christie Walton decides to give to a politician she can do so under Wal-Mart. The topic isn't hard to comprehend. Not everyone who works for Wal-Mart, invests in the stocks at Wal-Mart wants to vote the same way. This is just one Corp of the many.

Just taking a VERY basic example to try to wake your brain up.

If the share holders don't like the way the board of company is doing things they should fire them, or sell their shares, otherwise keep their mouths shut. Also employees don't get a vote on how the company spends it's money. Businesses are the most democratic institutions in the country, you don't like how they make their political contributions take your dollars elsewhere, if enough people agree with you the business will disappear. But don't just bitch when they are operating within the law, that accomplishes nothing.

 

[AntiParty]

Did America Turn Into Communism After Citizens United?


Nope. Long before.

They've been turning toward communism (actually socialism, not much significant difference at this stage) since at least the 1930s.

Citizens United decision, if anything, backtracked a little as the Supreme Court decided that people had the right to see their political spending protected as political speech (the main purpose of that part of the 1st amendment), and so forbade government from regulating as much as they had been. Whether the people were acting individually or in groups.

Citizens United basically stated "Corporations are People" and gave them the same voting rights as people without notating that not everyone in one industry is in the same party and not a "people". It's directly against the Constitution to force someone to vote a specific way, we do we allow this? Not everyone in "GE" is in one party.

You trying to say Citizens United is a step in the (R)ight direction doesn't surprise me

Forced to vote a specific way, really? You're losing it, no one is forced to vote or invest in a corporation.

A corporation is not a Corporate owner. This is your flaw. Christie Walton is not Wal-Mart, correct? Yet if Christie Walton decides to give to a politician she can do so under Wal-Mart. The topic isn't hard to comprehend. Not everyone who works for Wal-Mart, invests in the stocks at Wal-Mart wants to vote the same way. This is just one Corp of the many.

Just taking a VERY basic example to try to wake your brain up.

If the share holders don't like the way the board of company is doing things they should fire them, or sell their shares, otherwise keep their mouths shut. Also employees don't get a vote on how the company spends it's money. Businesses are the most democratic institutions in the country, you don't like how they make their political contributions take your dollars elsewhere, if enough people agree with you the business will disappear. But don't just bitch when they are operating within the law, that accomplishes nothing.

If the share holders don't like the way the board of company is doing things they should fire them, or sell their shares, otherwise keep their mouths shut. Also employees don't get a vote on how the company spends it's money~ Brainy stuff

 

[AntiParty]

It use to be We The People.

What happened to that?

Rhetorical question. The poor people were convinced the Country will do better and they will get more profits if they just comply.

 

[The Rabbi]

Communism is when Government Owns and Runs Industry.

Today In America;

Industry Owns and Runs Government.

A relatable point to all parties would be that 3 of Obama's top 10 donors were ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Some of us Americans are saying Obama is controlling the mainstream media. While others notate that ABC, CBS, and NBC are all Corporations that spent a hefty penny to see things their way.

No matter your perspective, the President has very little power unless he/she abuses it. Welcome to America 2015.

Stupidest thread of the day. Keep up the good work.

Great post. So much info, I thought we were on a debate forum.

Its hard to debate stupid and ignorant. First off corporations are barred by federal law from contributing to candidates. Second the mainstream media has been losing market share to alt media so they dont have the clout they used to. Third this president seems to have more power than the Constitution gave him,bypassing Congress at will.
But dont let facts get in the way ofyour ignorant rant about corporate takeovers. Koch Brothers anyone?

 

[nat4900]

Did America Turn Into Communism After Citizens United?


Nope. Long before.

They've been turning toward communism (actually socialism, not much significant difference at this stage) since at least the 1930s.

Citizens United decision, if anything, backtracked a little as the Supreme Court decided that people had the right to see their political spending protected as political speech (the main purpose of that part of the 1st amendment), and so forbade government from regulating as much as they had been. Whether the people were acting individually or in groups.

Here's where right winger LACK any sense of both history and definition of terms......

We have become a PLUTOCRACY or an OLIGARCHY but definetely NOT "communistic"......the erosion of unions should have confirmed that a long time ago, but lack of comprehension of terms coupled with mud-slinging at Obama and the federal government makes right wingers throw out terms like communism which does NOT even remotely apply.