Dershowitz: ‘You Cannot Charge a President With Obstruction for Exercising His Constitutional Power’

Policy gets in his way. If he doesn't like someone, he fires them. If he thinks Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel he recognizes it as such. If he feels like pissing off North Korea, he does it. If he feels like saying something that is opposite of what he said last week, he says it. It's that simple. He does what he feels like doing when the urge hits him. If you understand this, you understand Trump and hopefully you understand the problems that poses for the nation. However, Trump's president is not about the nation, it's about Trump.

That may be fine for local consumption. but it's dangerous when the world has to make sense of his illogical behavior. Countries will no longer want to work with the USA, and who can blame them.
 
The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice.
Not for firing an appointee.

The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice for firing an appointee if he did so to obstruct justice.

Shit. You people really don't have any respect for the legal foundations that make this nation great.

Thankfully, you are not the fucking majority.
No he can not. The absolute power to dismiss is the Presidents and it IS absolute. And there is no actual precedent for charging him now.
Well, it's not quite that simple. Mueller can ask the grand jury for an indictment of the president. The president can then fire Mueller, but the indictment stands. Someone will then take over the investigation and pursue that incitement. Trump can fire them and hire someone to shut down the investigation and dismiss the grand jury. However, keep in mind there are political consequence when a leader fires someone to keep them from investigating his activities. To even the most committed Trump follower, that is obstruction of justice at the highest level. Not even a republican controlled congress can ignore that.
. Yeah well if Trump got rid of the circus, and he went on to become the greatest economic boom president the nation has had in decades, then watch how all that you claim would evaporate quicker than the steam coming out of the over heated radiator you forgot to tighten the cap on does dissapate. That is Trump's charge now - get the circus shut down, and prove as to what kind of American president he can be for this nation. We don't need the distraction any longer, so SHUT IT DOWN TRUMP !!! QUIT worrying about any threats from the fall out over it... No cullusion, no case. Finish it already.
 
Policy gets in his way. If he doesn't like someone, he fires them. If he thinks Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel he recognizes it as such. If he feels like pissing off North Korea, he does it. If he feels like saying something that is opposite of what he said last week, he says it. It's that simple. He does what he feels like doing when the urge hits him. If you understand this, you understand Trump and hopefully you understand the problems that poses for the nation. However, Trump's president is not about the nation, it's about Trump.

That may be fine for local consumption. but it's dangerous when the world has to make sense of his illogical behavior. Countries will no longer want to work with the USA, and who can blame them.
And that is the problem.

Trump pisses off half the Middle East with his statement that Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel. Yet Trump wants to be the great deal maker in middle east, fat chance of that now.

Both Russia and China, the 2 most important trading partners with North Korea urge Trump to tone down his rhetoric and provocative military actions toward North Korea. However, Trump decides on starting an infantile fight on Twitter with Kim Jong-Un which accomplishes nothing except moving the US closer to a real war.
 
And what was said is backed up by other lawyers and constitutional scholars Yes, a president can obstruct justice, legal experts say the president can not be charged with obstruction in regards his firing of comey.
Of course he can. Mueller just needs to present the evidence to Grand Jury and ask for an indictment and there is nothing Trump can do about it because he is not represented within grand jury proceedings. Trump can certainly fight the charge, but this is not going to happen. Trump's trial will not be in a court of law but before the US Senate.
 
And what was said is backed up by other lawyers and constitutional scholars Yes, a president can obstruct justice, legal experts say the president can not be charged with obstruction in regards his firing of comey.
Of course he can. Mueller just needs to present the evidence to Grand Jury and ask for an indictment and there is nothing Trump can do about it because he is not represented within grand jury proceedings. Trump can certainly fight the charge, but this is not going to happen. Trump's trial will not be in a court of law but before the US Senate.
wrong read the article while Trump can be charged with obstruction for actions he takes THE ACT of firing Comey is NOT one of them. He has a legal constitutional right and power to fire ANY appointee for ANY reason.
 
Policy gets in his way. If he doesn't like someone, he fires them. If he thinks Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel he recognizes it as such. If he feels like pissing off North Korea, he does it. If he feels like saying something that is opposite of what he said last week, he says it. It's that simple. He does what he feels like doing when the urge hits him. If you understand this, you understand Trump and hopefully you understand the problems that poses for the nation. However, Trump's president is not about the nation, it's about Trump.

That may be fine for local consumption. but it's dangerous when the world has to make sense of his illogical behavior. Countries will no longer want to work with the USA, and who can blame them.

Trump's behavior is entirely logical. That's why you don't understand it.
 
Trump's behavior is entirely logical. That's why you don't understand it.
I wish that such a thing was true but Don the Con is a moron like you. What's "logical" to him is whatever he "feels" like doing. He has the mind of 12-year-old boy.
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This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

Dershowitz is an attention whore. He defended OJ Simpson. He will say or do anything that will get him a lot of attention. Other lawyers with just as much credibility, if not more, agree that the president can be convicted of obstruction of justice.

"It is not only theoretically possible for a president to be guilty of obstructing investigations; President Richard M. Nixon would in fact have been removed from office over it had he not resigned. The first article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee alleged that Nixon had “prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice,” by (among other things) “interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States [and] the Federal Bureau of investigation.”

Read more at: The President’s Power to End a Criminal Investigation
 
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The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice.
Not for firing an appointee.

The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice for firing an appointee if he did so to obstruct justice.

Shit. You people really don't have any respect for the legal foundations that make this nation great.

Thankfully, you are not the fucking majority.
No he can not. The absolute power to dismiss is the Presidents and it IS absolute. And there is no actual precedent for charging him now.
Well, it's not quite that simple. Mueller can ask the grand jury for an indictment of the president. The president can then fire Mueller, but the indictment stands. Someone will then take over the investigation and pursue that incitement. Trump can fire them and hire someone to shut down the investigation and dismiss the grand jury. However, keep in mind there are political consequence when a leader fires someone to keep them from investigating his activities. To even the most committed Trump follower, that is obstruction of justice at the highest level. Not even a republican controlled congress can ignore that.
. Yeah well if Trump got rid of the circus, and he went on to become the greatest economic boom president the nation has had in decades, then watch how all that you claim would evaporate quicker than the steam coming out of the over heated radiator you forgot to tighten the cap on does dissapate. That is Trump's charge now - get the circus shut down, and prove as to what kind of American president he can be for this nation. We don't need the distraction any longer, so SHUT IT DOWN TRUMP !!! QUIT worrying about any threats from the fall out over it... No cullusion, no case. Finish it already.

You are suggesting that we be ruled by a dictator because you believe in him.

Weird shit.
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

Dershowitz is an attention whore. He defended OJ Simpson. He will say or do anything that will get him a lot of attention. Other lawyers with just as much credibility, if not more, agree that the president can be convicted of obstruction of justice.

You vented your spleen and proved exactly nothing.
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

Dershowitz is an attention whore. He defended OJ Simpson. He will say or do anything that will get him a lot of attention. Other lawyers with just as much credibility, if not more, agree that the president can be convicted of obstruction of justice.

You vented your spleen and proved exactly nothing.
"It is not only theoretically possible for a president to be guilty of obstructing investigations; President Richard M. Nixon would in fact have been removed from office over it had he not resigned. The first article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee alleged that Nixon had “prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice,” by (among other things) “interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States [and] the Federal Bureau of investigation.”

Read more at: The President’s Power to End a Criminal Investigation
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

Dershowitz is an attention whore. He defended OJ Simpson. He will say or do anything that will get him a lot of attention. Other lawyers with just as much credibility, if not more, agree that the president can be convicted of obstruction of justice.

You vented your spleen and proved exactly nothing.
"It is not only theoretically possible for a president to be guilty of obstructing investigations; President Richard M. Nixon would in fact have been removed from office over it had he not resigned. The first article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee alleged that Nixon had “prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice,” by (among other things) “interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States [and] the Federal Bureau of investigation.”

Read more at: The President’s Power to End a Criminal Investigation
These idiots think Trump is immune because they want a dictator, a big daddy, not a president. The rule of man versus the rule of law. When you lack all morals and can't be nonpartisan you embrace shit like that.
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The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice.
Not for firing an appointee.

The president can be charged with obstruction of Justice for firing an appointee if he did so to obstruct justice.

Shit. You people really don't have any respect for the legal foundations that make this nation great.

Thankfully, you are not the fucking majority.
No he can not. The absolute power to dismiss is the Presidents and it IS absolute. And there is no actual precedent for charging him now.
Well, it's not quite that simple. Mueller can ask the grand jury for an indictment of the president. The president can then fire Mueller, but the indictment stands. Someone will then take over the investigation and pursue that incitement. Trump can fire them and hire someone to shut down the investigation and dismiss the grand jury. However, keep in mind there are political consequence when a leader fires someone to keep them from investigating his activities. To even the most committed Trump follower, that is obstruction of justice at the highest level. Not even a republican controlled congress can ignore that.
Methinks you give a republican congress too much credit
 
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Stick to the OP, people.
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”


he's lost his freaking mind.
 
Policy gets in his way. If he doesn't like someone, he fires them. If he thinks Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel he recognizes it as such. If he feels like pissing off North Korea, he does it. If he feels like saying something that is opposite of what he said last week, he says it. It's that simple. He does what he feels like doing when the urge hits him. If you understand this, you understand Trump and hopefully you understand the problems that poses for the nation. However, Trump's president is not about the nation, it's about Trump.

That may be fine for local consumption. but it's dangerous when the world has to make sense of his illogical behavior. Countries will no longer want to work with the USA, and who can blame them.
And that is the problem.

Trump pisses off half the Middle East with his statement that Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel. Yet Trump wants to be the great deal maker in middle east, fat chance of that now.

Both Russia and China, the 2 most important trading partners with North Korea urge Trump to tone down his rhetoric and provocative military actions toward North Korea. However, Trump decides on starting an infantile fight on Twitter with Kim Jong-Un which accomplishes nothing except moving the US closer to a real war.
. Gotta stand for something or continue to fall for anything. To long now this nation has fallen, and it's time to turn and face our opponents where ever they might be in this nation or in the world. We must face them with diplomacy of course, and if need be through strength. No more being the world's idiots while they kill us as they laugh, and we defend their killing us as they laugh even harder. No more.
 
This is for all the forum idiots who think Mueller can charge Trump with obstruction of justice:


Monday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz batted down the merit of obstruction of justice charges aimed at President Donald Trump for what he said was exercising his constitutional power and authority regarding the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey and instructing the Department of Justice what to and not to investigate.

“If Congress were to ever charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we’d have a constitutional crisis,” he explained. “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. That’s what Thomas Jefferson did. That’s what Lincoln did. That’s what Roosevelt did. We have precedents that clearly establish that.”

Dershowitz is an attention whore. He defended OJ Simpson. He will say or do anything that will get him a lot of attention. Other lawyers with just as much credibility, if not more, agree that the president can be convicted of obstruction of justice.

You vented your spleen and proved exactly nothing.
"It is not only theoretically possible for a president to be guilty of obstructing investigations; President Richard M. Nixon would in fact have been removed from office over it had he not resigned. The first article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee alleged that Nixon had “prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice,” by (among other things) “interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States [and] the Federal Bureau of investigation.”

Read more at: The President’s Power to End a Criminal Investigation
These idiots think Trump is immune because they want a dictator, a big daddy, not a president. The rule of man versus the rule of law. When you lack all morals and can't be nonpartisan you embrace shit like that.
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. If we end up with a dictator, it will be only the crazy libs/Demon-crats to blame. Period.
 

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