Dems Telling Us We Have To Pay Extra To Protect Our Troops

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    Economics 101 is that tax incentives spur the economy. Obama has been floating the idea of giving tax incentives to businesses. This is another way of giving tax-cuts to the wealthy. It all depends on how you want to describe it.

    Tax cuts do not cost us anything because they allow investors and consumers to keep more of their own money thus they spend more. That means they feel free to buy those high dollar items they've been putting off. Or hire more workers because they're feeling good about the future. And what happens when more people are working? That's right....more people are paying taxes.

    The job losses we've experienced in the last year are a direct result of Obama policies...even the threat of which causes fear in the private sector. Enough to double unemployment, decreased productivity, and lower consumption. All of which has resulted in a recession.

    People are worried about the future. An administration that tells you that your family has to learn to expect less in the future tends to slow the transfer of cash in any economy. And because of that....the lack of exchanging money...less taxes are paid in the process. Less profit means less revenue.

    Getting even with the rich only assures that the Middle-class ends up paying more taxes eventually to make up for the loss in revenue. Raising taxes during a recession is a serious mistake. Obama is learning this....personally his actions up until now makes me think he's screwing up the economy on purpose....you can't blame me for thinking this after hearing over a year of rhetoric that would give any smart business owner the impression the government is out to ruin them.
     
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    It's difficult for a president that was raised on socialist and communist principles to run a capitalist economy. All of his beliefs go against the grain in the US. The Democrats aren't Liberals in the pure sense. Too many of them are progressives or communists. They aren't the friend to the little guy but instead are the ones keeping them from realizing their dreams.

    Some of the czars Obama has chosen believe in tweaking regulations forcing up costs of goods and services thus reducing consumption. This alone will cause a recession. Some of the nut-cases Obama has working for him believe that mankind is a disease that needs to be eradicated from the Earth. Mankind is a plague on this planet according to some of them. Animals need lawyers to protect themselves from man's abuse and habit of polluting their surroundings.

    Some of them even think that getting rid of excess populations is the key to any great society. The old and the sick need not bother us with their presence. This is a communist belief from way back. Get rid of the generations that preceded the new order. Raise our kids to be mindless zombies while they're cutting off the elderly who remember when this country was great.

    As these freaks continue to surface folks like Glenn Beck shine a light on them and they're soon ushered out of the White House and hidden away down the street at the Center for American Progress. Van Jones was just one of them.
     
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    If your marriage is so weak that gays being able to LEGALLY say they are married threatens it then get divorced now because it WON'T last the test of time.......Personally though I don't think the gov't has ANY business getting involved in marriage. Give civil unions to EVERYONE and if you can find a priest to "Marry" you then you are "Married."


    As for the $12 BILLION "lost" in Iraq I see shades of Iran/Contra and it scares me. Not ONLY was $12 BLLION "lost" but so were about a 100,000 small arms (ak-47s and handguns). I see someone's wet dream of a "shadow army".

    Once you figure in all the "REBUILDING" projects for KBR that were "cost plus" and ended up being so poorly built that they were WORTHLESS and you understand just how much money was "LOST" in Iraq.
     
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    Tell me what does Econ 101 tell you about LOSING our manufacturing base since the 80's when Reagan gave tax breaks based on "Trickle Down Economics"? Those ULTRA RICH and the CORPS made MILLIONS of jobs........OVERSEAS!!! Then they moved their corporate HQs to the Cayman Islands (little more than a P.O. box) to SCREW the US out of the taxes they SHOULD pay.
     
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    Let's assume you're correct....that all of those jobs went overseas during the Reagan years.

    What was the primary cause of that? I'll tell you....government regulations....Capital Gains taxes....a high corperate tax rate [second highest in the world]....rising wages because of unions.....even higher health care requirements in those union jobs.

    Seems everything the Dems push for....higher minimum-wage....more benefits for workers...costing the employer millions in benefits and workman's comp......jobs just started leaving because lower wage workers in other countries were becoming available.

    No company can compete in the US market if they don't take advantage of what's out there and the trends were to ship manufacturing overseas. It continued into the Clinton years and the early part of the Bush years.
     
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    As far as population control Mother Nature will ALWAYS equalize the equation. The ability to have airline stops in three countries in one day will ENSURE that when (not if) the next major pandemic occures it will be global in days. Will it have a 100% mortality rate......Not likely but it could have a 70-90% mortality rate. We are the ONLY species on Earth that does so much damage to our surroundings. We Overpopulate, we Pollute, we Overhunt, and we wage war against out own species. You have to admit that we are becoming not MORE resistant to a Pandemic we are becoming LESS resistent. We OVERuse antibiotics we play Russian Roulette with our tampering with Viruses and diseases and it is only a matter of time whether man made or from nature that we are faced with some SERIOUS shit.
     
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    It's a wonder you can sleep at night thinking about all of this.

    If animals with their habit of killing each other were to replace us I don't think things would be any better...purhaps worse.

    At least some of us take the time to clean up after ourselves and have learned how to conserve.

    Problem is folks like Obama and Al Gore waste our resources more then anyone yet they have the nerve to tell us to cut back.

    I say they can stick it up their asses. I don't need some prick from Harvard to tell me how important the environment is...having grown up in the mountains of Montana and being a free-lance herbalist as well. I don't hunt because I know I can go to a store and get what I need every day or grow it myself. However game is much more plentiful then it was when I did in my youth because of an excellent government sponsored nationwide hunting program that has been in place since the 70s.

    I recycle and I try to conserve....much more then those assholes in Copenhagen are today.
     
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    Hey I will give a "THMBS UP" to Bush's Crawford ranch......Pretty cool.
     
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    O.K. Mud I would like you to just CONSIDER this proposal.....Any new homes in Arizona must have solar panels installed during construction. Just CONSIDER for a moment how much energy that could save.....During the HOTTEST time of day when there is the GREATEST draw on the power grid these solar panels would create the MOST power.....Even if it was just enough to run the AC so you can come home to a house that isn't 110 degrees it would save MASSIVE amounts of power. Now let's throw in Nevada....I think they get a lot of sun.... Maybe parts of CA......Texas......FL......How MUCH power would that save?


    Now I am SURE you don't like the idea of mandates but we MUST start SOMEWHERE!!!
     
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    One other thing Mud in my Geology class there was a disturbing little post he showed us......How many years of copper do you think the world has?
     

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