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Remember, when Democrats win, it's clearly the will of the people.
When Republicans win, they stole the election.
Right, USMB lefties?
You seem to argue a point that was never made. Keep it up, if you argue with yourself you will always win (or lose, depends how you look at it)
But it's only bad when Republicans do it.This was the Rep strategy to win: slow the economy with obstruction, gerrymandering and voter suppression.
The gerrymandering part worked in the House, with the resulting mess like the fiscal cliff and ongoing debt reduction, the later again being used to slow the economy. Now we are stuck with this albatross of a House.
We need to fix the law to prevent gerrymandering if we want a government that works.
Now That's What I Call Gerrymandering! | Mother Jones
Check out what Tom Brokaw had to say on Meet the Press.
Brokaw: 'The system is rigged' - POLITICO.com
Novus, I know this argument really well because 3 leaders of 3 opposition parties who lost to the Conservatives banded together to try to overthrow an election up here in Canada.
Claiming more votes in total.
This is the "new" progressive argument. Yours just has a slightly different spin, but basically the purpose is the same.
To undo an election.
Thanks but I disagree. The rules were there and the election was won according to the rules. Undoing the election would be a divisive catastrophe. I did not ask for that.
But if we see a systemic problem, we can work a solution to change the rules before the next election so the outcome would be fair under any type of Republic or Democracy.
In todays political environment, district representation is absurd. We have to face the reality of national political parties and national elections. Forget districts.
Exactly what is the "systemic problem" that has your panties all in a ruffle? The fact that conservatives get a voice in government? Or just the fact that people who don't live in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago get a voice in government? Exactly whose lack of subjugation is the "systemic problem" you're trying to eliminate?
Novus, I know this argument really well because 3 leaders of 3 opposition parties who lost to the Conservatives banded together to try to overthrow an election up here in Canada.
Claiming more votes in total.
This is the "new" progressive argument. Yours just has a slightly different spin, but basically the purpose is the same.
To undo an election.
Thanks but I disagree. The rules were there and the election was won according to the rules. Undoing the election would be a divisive catastrophe. I did not ask for that.
But if we see a systemic problem, we can work a solution to change the rules before the next election so the outcome would be fair under any type of Republic or Democracy.
In todays political environment, district representation is absurd. We have to face the reality of national political parties and national elections. Forget districts.
Thanks but I disagree. The rules were there and the election was won according to the rules. Undoing the election would be a divisive catastrophe. I did not ask for that.
But if we see a systemic problem, we can work a solution to change the rules before the next election so the outcome would be fair under any type of Republic or Democracy.
In todays political environment, district representation is absurd. We have to face the reality of national political parties and national elections. Forget districts.
Exactly what is the "systemic problem" that has your panties all in a ruffle? The fact that conservatives get a voice in government? Or just the fact that people who don't live in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago get a voice in government? Exactly whose lack of subjugation is the "systemic problem" you're trying to eliminate?
The systemic problem is that a minority has control over the minority. It is a color blind problem because it could be the other way tomorrow.
And it is a problem that could be fixed.