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You really shouldn't buy into the Democrat party talking points so wholeheartedly. Republicans are NOT against immigration. They ARE for following immigration laws.This election has been a HUGE wake up call for both major parties.
We've been hearing about the Republicans for several years now. It's like an impending divorce that is messy, stuff gets thrown and broken and there are calls for "we have to stay together for the kids". It's been loud and public, like celebrity marriage. It's been analyzed and reanalyzed.
But what about the Democrats? Their midlife crisis has been much more quiet. Lots of behind closed doors bickering and presenting a happy face for the kids. Bernie kind of opened the door on that. Hillary's loss cemented it.
What is the Democrat Party going to do, from here on in? It can't continue as the party of "identity politics". And what does it/should it represent? We have major demographic changes which offer hope to both parties IF they can grasp them?
Hispanics: this is a demographic that is growing, hugely. It's a demographic the Dems have largely attracted because of immigration issues. Yet it's a demographic that is, by and large, socially conservative and Catholic. It should be prime picking for Republicans EXCEPT another big part of their party is a strong anti-immigrant contingent.
Blacks: another demographic that is growing but and could easily be exploited by the Republicans. Like white voters, they are diverse outside of racial issues. A high proportion of them are religious and socially conservative.
If the Republican's hang on the politics of fear - they're going to to take your guns away, discriminate against your religion, flood this country with foreigners, and whites will be a minority - the Democrats hang on to the politics of identity - black, female, hispanic, lgbd. This strategy works only as long as the OTHER side, opposes identity. Essentially, each side has become a house of cards.
But we don't hear much about the Democrat's implosion and I think we need to.
What do the Dems need to do to rebuild their party? What principles can they promote that can resound in a way that reaches everyone - not selected groups who are actually fairly diverse and might not always be counted on for support across the board?
There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
One thing Democrats need to understand that too many broken promises will sink you sooner or later...
Maybe a few years out will help the old party and bring on a new class of leaders that can shape the party into something that can one day lead again...
What ideas do you feel defined the old party that the new has lost?
You really shouldn't buy into the Democrat party talking points so wholeheartedly. Republicans are NOT against immigration. They ARE for following immigration laws.This election has been a HUGE wake up call for both major parties.
We've been hearing about the Republicans for several years now. It's like an impending divorce that is messy, stuff gets thrown and broken and there are calls for "we have to stay together for the kids". It's been loud and public, like celebrity marriage. It's been analyzed and reanalyzed.
But what about the Democrats? Their midlife crisis has been much more quiet. Lots of behind closed doors bickering and presenting a happy face for the kids. Bernie kind of opened the door on that. Hillary's loss cemented it.
What is the Democrat Party going to do, from here on in? It can't continue as the party of "identity politics". And what does it/should it represent? We have major demographic changes which offer hope to both parties IF they can grasp them?
Hispanics: this is a demographic that is growing, hugely. It's a demographic the Dems have largely attracted because of immigration issues. Yet it's a demographic that is, by and large, socially conservative and Catholic. It should be prime picking for Republicans EXCEPT another big part of their party is a strong anti-immigrant contingent.
Blacks: another demographic that is growing but and could easily be exploited by the Republicans. Like white voters, they are diverse outside of racial issues. A high proportion of them are religious and socially conservative.
If the Republican's hang on the politics of fear - they're going to to take your guns away, discriminate against your religion, flood this country with foreigners, and whites will be a minority - the Democrats hang on to the politics of identity - black, female, hispanic, lgbd. This strategy works only as long as the OTHER side, opposes identity. Essentially, each side has become a house of cards.
But we don't hear much about the Democrat's implosion and I think we need to.
What do the Dems need to do to rebuild their party? What principles can they promote that can resound in a way that reaches everyone - not selected groups who are actually fairly diverse and might not always be counted on for support across the board?
As for blacks, when they come to the realization that the Democrats are simply using them to maintain power, they'll once again become a block of voters who will weigh the merits of a candidates argument and vote based upon what is best for the country and themselves. The bigotry of expecting blacks to vote based upon the benefits they receive from government is actually rather vile and repugnant.
I think the Democrats have been pandering to minorities and the LGBT communities because they THINK those groups will keep them afloat. Obviously, that is not the case. Good policies that affect everyone would do them as well.There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
I agree that there is - but in order to do that, they are going to have to alter some key messages and risk alienating some of the core constituencies that brought Trump to victory. If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs. IF they do that, the Democrats would be hard pressed to keep that demographic. But it conflicts with some pretty important core Republican positions.
Where the Democrats could strengthen their appeal is to focus on comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship, with specific proposals, keeping families together, and jobs - all of which are pretty important to that community. They could tone down their pro-lgbt & abortion rights side, but then like the Republicans they are faced with alienating a key defining part of their party.
One thing Democrats need to understand that too many broken promises will sink you sooner or later...
Maybe a few years out will help the old party and bring on a new class of leaders that can shape the party into something that can one day lead again...
What ideas do you feel defined the old party that the new has lost?
When I wrote old party what I meant was how old it is...
What I believe happen was that too many broken promises has hurt the Democratic Party and trying to blame their failure on the GOP was not working with groups like the Hispanic Community...
You have to deliver more than saying you want to fix wedge issues and to fail to do so will cost you...
Do I believe the GOP or Trump will deliver on their promises?
When I see a Unicorn fart rainbows...
What can the younger Democrats do that will be different than the older Democrats?
Keep your promise and don't try to sell a product that is so flawed that you have to admit later you need to fix it because you did not realize how flawed it was in the first place...
( Immigration Reform failure and the ACA )
If you're going to go down the road of Sanders then you need to educate the people of America your type of Socialism because too many people confuse it with Stalinism which it is not...
The future Democratic leaders need to explain their idea and less soundbites and show how their system will work by pointing to systems that have worked and if not then expect soundbite politicians to win over you...
I think the Democrats have been pandering to minorities and the LGBT communities because they THINK those groups will keep them afloat. Obviously, that is not the case. Good policies that affect everyone would do them as well.There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
I agree that there is - but in order to do that, they are going to have to alter some key messages and risk alienating some of the core constituencies that brought Trump to victory. If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs. IF they do that, the Democrats would be hard pressed to keep that demographic. But it conflicts with some pretty important core Republican positions.
Where the Democrats could strengthen their appeal is to focus on comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship, with specific proposals, keeping families together, and jobs - all of which are pretty important to that community. They could tone down their pro-lgbt & abortion rights side, but then like the Republicans they are faced with alienating a key defining part of their party.
I think the Democrats have been pandering to minorities and the LGBT communities because they THINK those groups will keep them afloat. Obviously, that is not the case. Good policies that affect everyone would do them as well.There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
I agree that there is - but in order to do that, they are going to have to alter some key messages and risk alienating some of the core constituencies that brought Trump to victory. If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs. IF they do that, the Democrats would be hard pressed to keep that demographic. But it conflicts with some pretty important core Republican positions.
Where the Democrats could strengthen their appeal is to focus on comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship, with specific proposals, keeping families together, and jobs - all of which are pretty important to that community. They could tone down their pro-lgbt & abortion rights side, but then like the Republicans they are faced with alienating a key defining part of their party.
If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs.
One thing Democrats need to understand that too many broken promises will sink you sooner or later...
Maybe a few years out will help the old party and bring on a new class of leaders that can shape the party into something that can one day lead again...
What ideas do you feel defined the old party that the new has lost?
When I wrote old party what I meant was how old it is...
What I believe happen was that too many broken promises has hurt the Democratic Party and trying to blame their failure on the GOP was not working with groups like the Hispanic Community...
You have to deliver more than saying you want to fix wedge issues and to fail to do so will cost you...
Do I believe the GOP or Trump will deliver on their promises?
When I see a Unicorn fart rainbows...
What can the younger Democrats do that will be different than the older Democrats?
Keep your promise and don't try to sell a product that is so flawed that you have to admit later you need to fix it because you did not realize how flawed it was in the first place...
( Immigration Reform failure and the ACA )
If you're going to go down the road of Sanders then you need to educate the people of America your type of Socialism because too many people confuse it with Stalinism which it is not...
The future Democratic leaders need to explain their idea and less soundbites and show how their system will work by pointing to systems that have worked and if not then expect soundbite politicians to win over you...
Two things strike me here...Sanders and soundbytes.
I really like Sanders on a multitude of levels. His positions have been consistent and unwaivering in the political winds, he strikes me as an ethical, compassionate person with integrity (something I can't say about many politicians). I'm not sure his message can resonate on a national level though.
The thing about soundbytes - that is what Trump used to win. That was how he got his message across. And it seemed to be what people wanted and it resonated. He was going to bring good paying manufacturing jobs back to the rustbelt. A simple message, no details to mess things up. Soundbytes.
If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs.
Again with the anti-immigrant BS... It is illegal immigration that is opposed...
Jeez, Bruce, don't say that.I think the Democrats have been pandering to minorities and the LGBT communities because they THINK those groups will keep them afloat. Obviously, that is not the case. Good policies that affect everyone would do them as well.There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
I agree that there is - but in order to do that, they are going to have to alter some key messages and risk alienating some of the core constituencies that brought Trump to victory. If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs. IF they do that, the Democrats would be hard pressed to keep that demographic. But it conflicts with some pretty important core Republican positions.
Where the Democrats could strengthen their appeal is to focus on comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship, with specific proposals, keeping families together, and jobs - all of which are pretty important to that community. They could tone down their pro-lgbt & abortion rights side, but then like the Republicans they are faced with alienating a key defining part of their party.
I am going to go off what you wrote and write that I believe the Democratic Party failed to understand that Asian Americans and the Hispanic\Latino communities are not like the African American communities and the Democratic Party need to learn to build their ideas around each community and not one size fit all idea.
The Hispanic and Asian communities are more conservative by nature and focus on small business and community and their needs are not met in my opinion.
Also the Democratic Party need to understand states have rights and the one size fit all platform rubs many rural Americans the wrong way...
Many issues can be resolved on the state level without big brother getting involved but yet the Democratic Party seem to believe there should be some sort of big brother involvement...
oh well because I will be dead soon so it will matter not for me to see anymore change...
There is a huge opportunity for the Republicans to take the black and Latino vote away from the Democrats.
I hope Trump plays it smart.
I agree that there is - but in order to do that, they are going to have to alter some key messages and risk alienating some of the core constituencies that brought Trump to victory. If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric
If they want to bring in Hispanics, they're going to have to tone down some the anti-immigrant rhetoric, and emphasize common values: family, church, jobs.
Again with the anti-immigrant BS... It is illegal immigration that is opposed...
Blog: Poll: 61% of Americans believe all immigration detrimental to the country
Poll: 61% of Americans believe all immigration detrimental to the country
By Rick Moran
Compared to previous polls on the subject of immigration, this survey commissioned by management consulting firm A.T. Kearney shows a markedly negative attitude by Americans toward all immigration – not just illegal.
Sixty-one percent of Americans in the survey believe that "continued immigration into the country jeopardizes the United States."...
Substantial? I'd be interested in your definition of substantial.You really shouldn't buy into the Democrat party talking points so wholeheartedly. Republicans are NOT against immigration. They ARE for following immigration laws.This election has been a HUGE wake up call for both major parties.
We've been hearing about the Republicans for several years now. It's like an impending divorce that is messy, stuff gets thrown and broken and there are calls for "we have to stay together for the kids". It's been loud and public, like celebrity marriage. It's been analyzed and reanalyzed.
But what about the Democrats? Their midlife crisis has been much more quiet. Lots of behind closed doors bickering and presenting a happy face for the kids. Bernie kind of opened the door on that. Hillary's loss cemented it.
What is the Democrat Party going to do, from here on in? It can't continue as the party of "identity politics". And what does it/should it represent? We have major demographic changes which offer hope to both parties IF they can grasp them?
Hispanics: this is a demographic that is growing, hugely. It's a demographic the Dems have largely attracted because of immigration issues. Yet it's a demographic that is, by and large, socially conservative and Catholic. It should be prime picking for Republicans EXCEPT another big part of their party is a strong anti-immigrant contingent.
Blacks: another demographic that is growing but and could easily be exploited by the Republicans. Like white voters, they are diverse outside of racial issues. A high proportion of them are religious and socially conservative.
If the Republican's hang on the politics of fear - they're going to to take your guns away, discriminate against your religion, flood this country with foreigners, and whites will be a minority - the Democrats hang on to the politics of identity - black, female, hispanic, lgbd. This strategy works only as long as the OTHER side, opposes identity. Essentially, each side has become a house of cards.
But we don't hear much about the Democrat's implosion and I think we need to.
What do the Dems need to do to rebuild their party? What principles can they promote that can resound in a way that reaches everyone - not selected groups who are actually fairly diverse and might not always be counted on for support across the board?
There is a substantial portion that is against immigration in it's entirety - that feel we have enough people, and that they take jobs.
As for blacks, when they come to the realization that the Democrats are simply using them to maintain power, they'll once again become a block of voters who will weigh the merits of a candidates argument and vote based upon what is best for the country and themselves. The bigotry of expecting blacks to vote based upon the benefits they receive from government is actually rather vile and repugnant.
I don't consider it "bigotry" - but rather an arrogance that assumes blocks of voters all WANT to vote the same because of their race/ethnicity/gender/religion and that they will support the party regardless of who is on the ticket. And is that any different than the arrogance of the Republicans when it comes to the blocks of voters that they expect to vote for them rather than what's best for the country and themselves? This came into this election when many evangelicals were confronted with a candidate that was anthithical to their beliefs?
Republicans are not anti-immigration. Republicans are anti-illegal immigration. The establishment's reluctance to enforce immigration law and their bad habit of denying that illegal immigrants are in fact here illegally is a big reason why Trump was elected.This election has been a HUGE wake up call for both major parties.
We've been hearing about the Republicans for several years now. It's like an impending divorce that is messy, stuff gets thrown and broken and there are calls for "we have to stay together for the kids". It's been loud and public, like celebrity marriage. It's been analyzed and reanalyzed.
But what about the Democrats? Their midlife crisis has been much more quiet. Lots of behind closed doors bickering and presenting a happy face for the kids. Bernie kind of opened the door on that. Hillary's loss cemented it.
What is the Democrat Party going to do, from here on in? It can't continue as the party of "identity politics". And what does it/should it represent? We have major demographic changes which offer hope to both parties IF they can grasp them?
Hispanics: this is a demographic that is growing, hugely. It's a demographic the Dems have largely attracted because of immigration issues. Yet it's a demographic that is, by and large, socially conservative and Catholic. It should be prime picking for Republicans EXCEPT another big part of their party is a strong anti-immigrant contingent.
Blacks: another demographic that is growing but and could easily be exploited by the Republicans. Like white voters, they are diverse outside of racial issues. A high proportion of them are religious and socially conservative.
If the Republican's hang on the politics of fear - they're going to to take your guns away, discriminate against your religion, flood this country with foreigners, and whites will be a minority - the Democrats hang on to the politics of identity - black, female, hispanic, lgbd. This strategy works only as long as the OTHER side, opposes identity. Essentially, each side has become a house of cards.
But we don't hear much about the Democrat's implosion and I think we need to.
What do the Dems need to do to rebuild their party? What principles can they promote that can resound in a way that reaches everyone - not selected groups who are actually fairly diverse and might not always be counted on for support across the board?
I told everyone that Democrats and Hillary are on the wrong trajectory. Black Lives Matter and Gay marraige do not pay the bills or put food on anyone's table. Hollywood liberals, limousine elites, and campus professorate don't understand working class people. Also, the narcisistic liberal media needs to stop talking down to all the "little people" telling them how to think.This election has been a HUGE wake up call for both major parties.
We've been hearing about the Republicans for several years now. It's like an impending divorce that is messy, stuff gets thrown and broken and there are calls for "we have to stay together for the kids". It's been loud and public, like celebrity marriage. It's been analyzed and reanalyzed.
But what about the Democrats? Their midlife crisis has been much more quiet. Lots of behind closed doors bickering and presenting a happy face for the kids. Bernie kind of opened the door on that. Hillary's loss cemented it.
What is the Democrat Party going to do, from here on in? It can't continue as the party of "identity politics". And what does it/should it represent? We have major demographic changes which offer hope to both parties IF they can grasp them?
Hispanics: this is a demographic that is growing, hugely. It's a demographic the Dems have largely attracted because of immigration issues. Yet it's a demographic that is, by and large, socially conservative and Catholic. It should be prime picking for Republicans EXCEPT another big part of their party is a strong anti-immigrant contingent.
Blacks: another demographic that is growing but and could easily be exploited by the Republicans. Like white voters, they are diverse outside of racial issues. A high proportion of them are religious and socially conservative.
If the Republican's hang on the politics of fear - they're going to to take your guns away, discriminate against your religion, flood this country with foreigners, and whites will be a minority - the Democrats hang on to the politics of identity - black, female, hispanic, lgbd. This strategy works only as long as the OTHER side, opposes identity. Essentially, each side has become a house of cards.
But we don't hear much about the Democrat's implosion and I think we need to.
What do the Dems need to do to rebuild their party? What principles can they promote that can resound in a way that reaches everyone - not selected groups who are actually fairly diverse and might not always be counted on for support across the board?
