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CaféAuLait;5515802 said:You could be right, but this doesn't prove your point. And comparing Obama's 3.5 years to two Presidents combined terms is a little dishonest.
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Dishonest? Are you serious, lol? After you compared TWO presidents four full terms, to Obama's invoking EP "only once" to tout that he was the most transparent of them all and has yet to finish a single term? I'm dishonest? Please.
I did not count it has 15 executive privileges compared to one. I simply stated Clinton used it 14 times, and Bush used it 6 times. You are trying to use this one time as your smoking gun. And until he is uses it more, you have no point.
So as of right now, George HW Bush and Obama since 1980 are the most transparent Presidents, if you use the Executive Privileges as a way to measure this sort of thing. Your statement comes across as if you are assuming he will evoke even more, you cannot use what you think might happen as a way to make a point.
A minute after he took office, the White House website declared his administration would become the most open and transparent in history. By the end of his first full day on the job, Obama had issued high-profile orders pledging a new era and an unprecedented level of openness across the massive federal government.
Obama is the sixth administration thats been in office since Ive been doing Freedom of Information Act work. Its kind of shocking to me to say this, but of the six, this administration is the worst on FOIA issues. The worst. Theres just no question about it, said Katherine Meyer, a Washington lawyer whos been filing FOIA cases since 1978. This administration is raising one barrier after another. Its gotten to the point where Im stunned Im really stunned.
The administration has embarked on an unprecedented wave of prosecutions of whistleblowers and alleged leakers an effort many journalists believe is aimed at blocking national security-related stories. There just seems to be a disconnect here. You want aggressive journalism abroad; you just dont want it in the United States, ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper told White House press secretary Jay Carney at a recent briefing for reporters.
In one of those cases, the Justice Department is trying to force a New York Times reporter to identify his confidential sources and is arguing that he has no legal protection from doing so.
Compliance with agencies open-government plans has been spotty, with confusing and inaccurate metrics sometimes used to assess progress. Some federal agencies are also throwing up new hurdles, such as more fees, in the path of those seeking records.
The Office of Management and Budget has stalled for more than a year the proposals of the chief FOIA ombudsmans office to improve government wide FOIA operations.
That's not true...Issa kept moving the goalposts every time Holder complied...finally it gets to the point where he's sticking his nose where perhaps he has no business sticking it and Holder and Obama said "enough is enough".wow... hardly any liberal leaning posters are complaining when a Democrat asks for 'sensitive' information... but all Hell breaks lose when a Republican does.
Go figure.
That's not true...Issa kept moving the goalposts every time Holder complied...finally it gets to the point where he's sticking his nose where perhaps he has no business sticking it and Holder and Obama said "enough is enough".wow... hardly any liberal leaning posters are complaining when a Democrat asks for 'sensitive' information... but all Hell breaks lose when a Republican does.
Go figure.
It's a lose lose situation...deal with Issa demanding more and more everytime he hits a dead end...or claim EP and have wingnuts claim conspiracy.
That's not true...Issa kept moving the goalposts every time Holder complied...finally it gets to the point where he's sticking his nose where perhaps he has no business sticking it and Holder and Obama said "enough is enough".wow... hardly any liberal leaning posters are complaining when a Democrat asks for 'sensitive' information... but all Hell breaks lose when a Republican does.
Go figure.
It's a lose lose situation...deal with Issa demanding more and more everytime he hits a dead end...or claim EP and have wingnuts claim conspiracy.
congressional oversight is only good when the partisan hacks on the left are doing it.. we hear ya!
"In the past, most U.S. trade agreement texts have not been made available until after they were signed."
Like NAFTA? That really worked out well for American workers didn't it?
Obama has used it once, did you protest when Bush did it six times?
Not all six.
Which times did you not protest?
CaféAuLait;5515741 said:Will Obama ever been able to stand on his own or will Bush always be there to measure him against? He promised the most transparent presidency, hope and change. Why not demand that he do what he promised? What the American people BELIEVED of him?
His own party is demanding the information, if Democrats are demanding such so close to an election with much on the line, something piqued their concern.
Clinton invoked it 14 times, Bush 6, Obama 1. So far he is more transparent than the two of them. Just sayin.
That's not true...Issa kept moving the goalposts every time Holder complied...finally it gets to the point where he's sticking his nose where perhaps he has no business sticking it and Holder and Obama said "enough is enough".wow... hardly any liberal leaning posters are complaining when a Democrat asks for 'sensitive' information... but all Hell breaks lose when a Republican does.
Go figure.
It's a lose lose situation...deal with Issa demanding more and more everytime he hits a dead end...or claim EP and have wingnuts claim conspiracy.
Trade negotiations are the exclusive privilege of the president, he answers to no one in this area.
CaféAuLait;5515802 said:You could be right, but this doesn't prove your point. And comparing Obama's 3.5 years to two Presidents combined terms is a little dishonest.
(emphasis added)
Dishonest? Are you serious, lol? After you compared TWO presidents four full terms, to Obama's invoking EP "only once" to tout that he was the most transparent of them all and has yet to finish a single term? I'm dishonest? Please.
I did not count it has 15 executive privileges compared to one. I simply stated Clinton used it 14 times, and Bush used it 6 times. You are trying to use this one time as your smoking gun. And until he is uses it more, you have no point.
So as of right now, George HW Bush and Obama since 1980 are the most transparent Presidents, if you use the Executive Privileges as a way to measure this sort of thing. Your statement comes across as if you are assuming he will evoke even more, you cannot use what you think might happen as a way to make a point.