Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bonnie, Dec 5, 2006.
Bonnie, if you do not mind, I would like to ask you a question. I am not trying to go on the offensive here, I really would just like to know your thoughts and opinions on this subject.
My question: What is the future of the 'American working man'?
The expression encompasses women too, of course.
My worry is that we are going to lose many of the blue collar industries. I also worry that this nation's blue collar workers are not going to be able to enjoy a good middle class living. Look at places where the custodial trade has been privatized. You go from qualified custodians, making around 40-50 K a year, to crews of random workers making $6 an hour.
A high school close to my home town made the switch to save money. Several computers were stolen and they found that the private companies were not under agreement to do anything but clean. They would not even help teachers move their things to a new room. The school switched back to union custodians.
But are profit hungry corporations going to keep union custodians? They can get the windows dusted for much less with a private company...and would be more willing to put up with the baggage.
The companies that outsource wouldn't make so much profit if the consumer cared about where the products are being made. You can't expect companies to pay higher wages for American workers and still put out an affordable product. A family friend of mine has started her own business and the cost of manufacturing her product here in America is $25. In China its $10. She has but little choice to change over to a manufacturer in China, because Americans simply don't care where its made, they just want more bang for the buck. Until the American customer changes their views on how to go about purchasing products, trying to regulate against it to protect 'the American worker' is futile.
I don't think we'll lose them. this country relies on much of the blue-collar work to continue being productive. Road, home, building, recreational construction will always be there. Then someone has to wire and run pipe through those same homes and buildings, under roads, etc.
Someone has to be there to fix vehicles, fix the roads, houses, pipes, wiring, etc.
This is why I am encouraging my boys to get into a trade rather than a joe-blow office jobs. Trade jobs will always be in demand and they can gain experience through their employer and have indespensible knowledge. Plus the pay can get real nice when you start getting into the more complex jobs. Especially running heavy equipment, like backhoe operators, who get something like $75k/year starting.
Not a simple problem to address, however a good start would be for government to give tax incentives to all business to stay here, to employ people here, and for manufacturing to be able to produce better quality for less money. I know raising the minimum wage is popular with many, however when government gets involved with this companies are going to outsource. And heaven forbid Hillary gets in and institutes socialized health care, you are going to see the ruin of most small American business because they won't be able to afford the premium costs that they are struggling with now. So you have government involved in every aspect of companies. Bottom line is any person who invests money in a business or company is looking to make a profit, if other countries are offering more cost effective ways to do it, that's where they are going to go. I understand there needs to be some government regulation to make sure companies are operating safe working conditions for their employees but beyond that whenever government gets their hands in too much the economy reacts. Private business in many cases can and does do a better job. Government jobs are great, but not everyone can be employed by unions or the government. Unions were when they first organized legitimate and needed as there were terrible employee abuses occurring, however NOW they are for the most part corrupt organizations that simply milk companies for huge amounts of money to stay relevant and in power. It's really a shame because it's unions and government that are the problem, not the free market system we used to have.
Blue and white collar workers are essentially socialist contructs to divide society.
The fact is they are all workers. And people often experience both so called classes in their life. But thats the beauty of America. We arent stuck in any one "class" of people. and I think those who try to divide us into classes are trying to limit what people can do artificially.
What will happen is all Americans everywhere will shift to where the jobs are. they will do what it takes to educate themselves. And that includes in so called blue collar jobs. They will be better educated in doing them and there will be more.
You see when we have freedom, the system works itself out.
That's very true, construction jobs, car mechanic jobs, road repair etc will always be needed. It's assembly line jobs, and customer support jobs that are being outsourced....
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